Is PSLE so important?

[wonderm]

jtoh:

And there we would go down the slippery slope of a certain ideology where everyone is rewarded the same regardless of skill level and vocation. Dangerous.

Seems like we are going down that path.

[wonderm]

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jtoh:

I'm with firefly. I see nothing wrong with MOE publishing the names of the top scorers. These students have worked hard and done well and deserve their moment of glory. How would publishing their names make other students feel bad? As a student, I was not a great at Physics, but that didn't make me feel bad when my friends scored A1 for the subject and topped the subject in my cohort. Do national swimmers feel bad that Michael Phelps is (was) breaking records and winning medals? Just because you can't be #1 doesn't mean you should feel bad for it nor deny those who are their little moment of celebration. Celebrate your own little achievements which are different from student to student. There's no need for envy.

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jtoh:

wonderm:

[quote=\"jtoh\"]I'm with firefly. I see nothing wrong with MOE publishing the names of the top scorers. These students have worked hard and done well and deserve their moment of glory. How would publishing their names make other students feel bad? As a student, I was not a great at Physics, but that didn't make me feel bad when my friends scored A1 for the subject and topped the subject in my cohort. Do national swimmers feel bad that Michael Phelps is (was) breaking records and winning medals? Just because you can't be #1 doesn't mean you should feel bad for it nor deny those who are their little moment of celebration. Celebrate your own little achievements which are different from student to student. There's no need for envy.

Good point!

I am wondering, does this new policy includes O Level, A Level results as well? For the same reason, the policy should be consistent?

In the past, I read from the papers about the different starting pays for graduates of different courses. Would that be banned in future as well, so that people do not get stressed over which course seem to be more desirable? That will reduce the rush for certain faculties, and making it less stressful for all students and parents down the line?

And there we would go down the slippery slope of a certain ideology where everyone is rewarded the same regardless of skill level and vocation. Dangerous.[/quote] :hi5:

[pandan]

jtoh:

I'm with firefly. I see nothing wrong with MOE publishing the names of the top scorers. These students have worked hard and done well and deserve their moment of glory. How would publishing their names make other students feel bad? As a student, I was not a great at Physics, but that didn't make me feel bad when my friends scored A1 for the subject and topped the subject in my cohort. Do national swimmers feel bad that Michael Phelps is (was) breaking records and winning medals? Just because you can't be #1 doesn't mean you should feel bad for it nor deny those who are their little moment of celebration. Celebrate your own little achievements which are different from student to student. There's no need for envy.

I totally agree with firefly, jtoh and wonderm.

[shurley197323]

pandan:

jtoh:

I'm with firefly. I see nothing wrong with MOE publishing the names of the top scorers. These students have worked hard and done well and deserve their moment of glory. How would publishing their names make other students feel bad? As a student, I was not a great at Physics, but that didn't make me feel bad when my friends scored A1 for the subject and topped the subject in my cohort. Do national swimmers feel bad that Michael Phelps is (was) breaking records and winning medals? Just because you can't be #1 doesn't mean you should feel bad for it nor deny those who are their little moment of celebration. Celebrate your own little achievements which are different from student to student. There's no need for envy.

I totally agree with firefly, jtoh and wonderm.

Me too. It's a joy to be share :celebrate:

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firefly38:

Too many changes have taken place in too short a time.. For better or for worse?


Firstly, the P1 Registration.. Next, the removal of Sec Schs Banding.. Then, the abolishing of SYF Awards.. Now, the PSLE (not announcing top scorers).. :roll:

I do not see anything wrong with letting the public know who the top PSLE scorers are.. These children have put in so much effort and hard work into their studies, they certainly deserve our respect and recognition for their achievements.. Their teachers have worked hard too, having coached their students and supported them, both accademically and emotionally, during the exam period.. They too deserve our outmost respect for their dedication and commitment.. :salute:

With less or no information available from now on, parents will resort to using past years' data to make decisions, may it be P1 registration or Sec Sch selection.. Neighbourhood schools may have little (or NO) chance to change the opinions of parents (& public), as their academic achievements will not be made known to parents (& public) anymore.. And we cannot deny the fact that children's academic performance still ranks rather high on parents' minds, at least for now.. can we? :skeptical:

:goodpost: Notable and valid points!

[GLORYmum]

wonderm:

jtoh:

And there we would go down the slippery slope of a certain ideology where everyone is rewarded the same regardless of skill level and vocation. Dangerous.

Seems like we are going down that path.

Socialist ? 没有竞争那里来的进步？

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jtoh:

wonderm:

[quote=\"jtoh\"]I'm with firefly. I see nothing wrong with MOE publishing the names of the top scorers. These students have worked hard and done well and deserve their moment of glory. How would publishing their names make other students feel bad? As a student, I was not a great at Physics, but that didn't make me feel bad when my friends scored A1 for the subject and topped the subject in my cohort. Do national swimmers feel bad that Michael Phelps is (was) breaking records and winning medals? Just because you can't be #1 doesn't mean you should feel bad for it nor deny those who are their little moment of celebration. Celebrate your own little achievements which are different from student to student. There's no need for envy.

Good point!

I am wondering, does this new policy includes O Level, A Level results as well? For the same reason, the policy should be consistent?

In the past, I read from the papers about the different starting pays for graduates of different courses. Would that be banned in future as well, so that people do not get stressed over which course seem to be more desirable? That will reduce the rush for certain faculties, and making it less stressful for all students and parents down the line?

And there we would go down the slippery slope of a certain ideology where everyone is rewarded the same regardless of skill level and vocation. Dangerous.[/quote]
3 GOOD POSTS! Thanks, Jtoh and Wonderm.

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MeKiasuLeh:

janet_lee88:

Schools and their teachers should focus on teaching, not to do so for the sake of glory. We have different views of this new decision of not naming. Lots of pros and cons regarding this.

But most people are highlighting the cons here.

In all honesty, I do not think top PLSE students of the past were in favour of their names and/or pictures being published. I would think it was their schools who had initiated the interviews etc.

But would your perspective change if the government allows only the top 10 T-scores to be published, no names and no schools? I feel this is a better option as it would have provided some kind of yardstick for interested parties (i.e. schools, students, parents, etc) to know whether their approaches, efforts and costs invested in their PLSE pursuit had been worthwhile and whether improvement and/or adjustment is needed. It may not be important to know how others have performed but it should be useful to know how your DC had performed, is it not?

I know of schools that present charts and tables during Principal talks, award presentations, etc to show how well their respective schools had performed in PSLE relative to the national standard in all subjects and T-scores, and I see this as a good exercise for schools to strategise and work on their weaknesses and for parents to determine if they want their kids in lower primary to remain in their respective schools. I wonder if schools will continue to receive PLSE statistics.

I don't know about you but keeping totally quiet on PLSE performance is akin to Chinese New year without firecrackers; there is not much to like and yet not much to dislike at the same time. But I really miss those firecrackers.

Yeah, something definitely amiss; it's akin to having The Olympic games but without announcing the winners ?