Club Breadmakers

[twinklejoy]

[quote]

Hi TwinkleJoy

I'm also an owner of the same Severin model....eh, since last year actually but due to non-success, it's slowly becoming a white elephant.

I'm now re-encouraged by your pics. Can I ask a few qns:

1) Which recipe did you follow for above bread? Is it the one on White Bread/French bread in the manual - pg 28?
Sorry, I don't have the manual recipe with me now..but I think it should be correct, the White/French bread page..is using mode 2 right?


2) What brand of yeast did you use?
bought from NTUC..was it Bake King or King Bake?..it's in the white plastic small bottle.

3) What brand of wheat flour did you use?
also bought from NTUC, Prima bread flour.

4) Milk brand too?
my dh is drinking M. fresh milk so I used this to substitude water.

I'm trying to get precise here cos my last few attempts (before I gave up), the bread turned out too chewy/rubbery :oops:

Looking forward to your advice and thanks!![/quote]hello hello Twins,
I'm so happy that my ugly bread pics re-encouraged you wor! I'm definately not an expert..cant give advises lah :oops: ...but am willing to share my experience!!
I started my virgin bake only last wk. so far my 4 loafs of bread were kinda edible.
I followed the Severin's recipes stictly...only to replace water to milk.[b]

here's my answers to your questions in bold.

just curious, you mentioned that the bread turned out chewy and rubber...did you leave the bread inside the baking tin too long?

don't give up! Jiayu Jiayu Jiayu!! :rahrah: :rahrah: :rahrah:
Hope to see your bread pics soon! :imanisland:

[twinklejoy]

peterch:

jtoh:

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Choc chip cake with Z.

Choc bread is in Z now
Hope it is better than the one I made last night

You made choc cake and choc bread? How do they taste?

The choc cake taste good. But it has slightly thick crust. The choc bread will be out in an hour time Report to the Z team later tonight :lol:[/quote]do we have to buy baking flour for cake? can use bread flour bo? :? :?

[peterch]

jtoh:

peterch:

My adjustments to Z original Choc Bread Recipe:


3/4 cups Water + Whipping Cream Milk (50-50)
1 3/4 cups bread flour (I use Prima flour)
1/2 tbsp cocoa (I use van houten brand - white box)
1 1/2 tbsp sugar
1/2 tsp salt
2 tbsp butter (I use unsalted anchor butter)
1 tsp instant yeast (I use SAF instant)
1 cup choc chips


I put everything in except butter :D, I put the butter when the flour and other dry and wet ingredients are mixed (about 5 minutes after Z start kneading) and of course the choc ship I added when the add beeps sound

Thanks for sharing peter. Any reason why you put the butter in later?

Actually in normal bread making procedure, the fat/butter should be put at a later state than others. Even salt actually.

Butter would prevents the water to mix blend well with flour and other ingredients while salt will stop the dough from fermenting.

When I found out that opening Z top cover doesn't affect anything during mixing process, I tried with my choc bread today. It is much better than the one I made last night :oops:

[peterch]

twinklejoy:

peterch:

[quote=\"jtoh\"]
You made choc cake and choc bread? How do they taste?

The choc cake taste good. But it has slightly thick crust. The choc bread will be out in an hour time Report to the Z team later tonight :lol:

do we have to buy baking flour for cake? can use bread flour bo? :? :?[/quote]Flour for cake is different from bread. You have to use all purpose flour or cake flour. Bread flour has higher gluten contain

[twinklejoy]

peterch:

jtoh:

[quote=\"peterch\"]My adjustments to Z original Choc Bread Recipe:


3/4 cups Water + Whipping Cream Milk (50-50)
1 3/4 cups bread flour (I use Prima flour)
1/2 tbsp cocoa (I use van houten brand - white box)
1 1/2 tbsp sugar
1/2 tsp salt
2 tbsp butter (I use unsalted anchor butter)
1 tsp instant yeast (I use SAF instant)
1 cup choc chips


I put everything in except butter :D, I put the butter when the flour and other dry and wet ingredients are mixed (about 5 minutes after Z start kneading) and of course the choc ship I added when the add beeps sound

Thanks for sharing peter. Any reason why you put the butter in later?

Actually in normal bread making procedure, the fat/butter should be put at a later state than others. Even salt actually.

Butter would prevents the water to mix blend well with flour and other ingredients while salt will stop the dough from fermenting.

When I found out that opening Z top cover doesn't affect anything during mixing process, I tried with my choc bread today. It is much better than the one I made last night :oops:[/quote]pro advise!
:thankyou:
btw, does it means that when it's in mixing process, no problem to open the cover to add butter and salt? irregardless on which stage? so long in mixing process = can open cover? :?

[twinklejoy]

peterch:

twinklejoy:

[quote=\"peterch\"]
The choc cake taste good. But it has slightly thick crust. The choc bread will be out in an hour time Report to the Z team later tonight :lol:

do we have to buy baking flour for cake? can use bread flour bo? :? :?

Flour for cake is different from bread. You have to use all purpose flour or cake flour. Bread flour has higher gluten contain :D[/quote]oic Thanks for the advise.
that's mean better to buy multi purpose flour..so can make cake and bread, right? :oops:

[jtoh]

peterch:

jtoh:

[quote=\"peterch\"]My adjustments to Z original Choc Bread Recipe:


3/4 cups Water + Whipping Cream Milk (50-50)
1 3/4 cups bread flour (I use Prima flour)
1/2 tbsp cocoa (I use van houten brand - white box)
1 1/2 tbsp sugar
1/2 tsp salt
2 tbsp butter (I use unsalted anchor butter)
1 tsp instant yeast (I use SAF instant)
1 cup choc chips


I put everything in except butter :D, I put the butter when the flour and other dry and wet ingredients are mixed (about 5 minutes after Z start kneading) and of course the choc ship I added when the add beeps sound

Thanks for sharing peter. Any reason why you put the butter in later?

Actually in normal bread making procedure, the fat/butter should be put at a later state than others. Even salt actually.

Butter would prevents the water to mix blend well with flour and other ingredients while salt will stop the dough from fermenting.

When I found out that opening Z top cover doesn't affect anything during mixing process, I tried with my choc bread today. It is much better than the one I made last night :oops:[/quote]Thanks.

[peterch]

twinklejoy:

oic Thanks for the advise.
that's mean better to buy multi purpose flour..so can make cake and bread, right? :oops:

Hehehe, you have to use bread flour for making bread. All purpose flour meant for cakes or pao.

[peterch]

twinklejoy:

btw, does it means that when it's in mixing process, no problem to open the cover to add butter and salt? irregardless on which stage? so long in mixing process = can open cover? :?

Yes, only during mixing process. But remember, mixing time is 14-19 minutes only. So don't put the butter too late or it will not mix well

[Happy Mama]

peterch:

twinklejoy:

oic Thanks for the advise.
that's mean better to buy multi purpose flour..so can make cake and bread, right? :oops:

Hehehe, you have to use bread flour for making bread. All purpose flour meant for cakes or pao.

What's the difference or effect you get when using multi purpose flour vs cake flour to bake a cake?