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      24hr-mum
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      why in 3rd model the 3unit +8 is dulpicated?


      when shd draw usg the before and when use the After model?

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        tianzhu
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        24hr-mum:
        why in 3rd model the 3unit +8 is dulpicated?


        when shd draw usg the before and when use the After model?
        Hi

        The number of blue clips is twice the number of yellow clips.

        We want to make a comparison so as to get the answers.

        Before and after models show the before and after scenarios

        Best wishes

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          optimistforum
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          Hi


          Does anyone know of a useful site to gain better practise of tesellationms/nets, please? My DS is using EPH P4 Challenging Maths (Sandhya Sundar), but be need some practise of the basis first

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            Breadandmuffins
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            During a quiz a correct answer would be awarded 3 points while 2 points would be deducted from a participant for a wrong answer. For every 6 questions answered, Jane managed to get 5 of them correct. Given that jane earned a total of 104 points, how many questions did Jane answer correctly?


            Ds 's teacher uses the on sponge method called "number of units and value of units". He asked me when should he use this method cos he thinks it’s possible to use guess and check too. Is there any way to tell? Do youthink model can be used here?

            Thank you so much.

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              MathIzzzFun
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              Breadandmuffins:
              During a quiz a correct answer would be awarded 3 points while 2 points would be deducted from a participant for a wrong answer. For every 6 questions answered, Jane managed to get 5 of them correct. Given that jane earned a total of 104 points, how many questions did Jane answer correctly?


              Ds 's teacher uses the on sponge method called \"number of units and value of units\". He asked me when should he use this method cos he thinks it's possible to use guess and check too. Is there any way to tell? Do youthink model can be used here?

              Thank you so much.
              Hi

              guess and check can be used but it is not efficient for this question. For this question, one can use the grouping concept.
              Since for every 6 questions, Jane answered 5 correctly, and therefore 1 wrongly, she would score 15-2 =13 points for every 6 question.
              104/13 = 8 ie 8 groups of 6 questions --> 5 questions were answered correctly in each group, so 8 x 5 = 40 questions were answered correctly.

              cheers.

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                Hi,


                Same as MathIzzzFun mentioned, I think 'grouping concept' will be a better choice.

                Given that for every 6 questions answered (1 group), Jane managed to get 5 of them correct, so Jane earned (15-2) = 13 points

                Total score is 104 points

                104 / 13 = 8 groups

                8 x 5 = 40 questions were answered correctly.

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                  24hr-mum
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                  for qn such as: if the teacher shares her sweets wf 5 pupils she wil hv 3 sweets left, if she share wf 6 pupils she wil b short of 7 sweets, how many sweet she has?any shortcut besides listg the multiples of 5 n 6? the clue gvn is she has more than 40 sweets

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                    optimistforum
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                    Breadandmuffins:
                    During a quiz a correct answer would be awarded 3 points while 2 points would be deducted from a participant for a wrong answer. For every 6 questions answered, Jane managed to get 5 of them correct. Given that jane earned a total of 104 points, how many questions did Jane answer correctly?


                    Ds 's teacher uses the on sponge method called \"number of units and value of units\". He asked me when should he use this method cos he thinks it's possible to use guess and check too. Is there any way to tell? Do youthink model can be used here?

                    Thank you so much.
                    Wow. That is a difficult question. Is this defintely a P4 question? :?

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                      24hr-mum:
                      for qn such as: if the teacher shares her sweets wf 5 pupils she wil hv 3 sweets left, if she share wf 6 pupils she wil b short of 7 sweets, how many sweet she has?any shortcut besides listg the multiples of 5 n 6? the clue gvn is she has more than 40 sweets

                      Hi 24hr-mum,

                      HTH...

                      As the number of sweets in both cases is the same thus the answer is 53 sweets.

                      Case 1: 5 students with extra of 3 sweets
                      Case 2: 6 students with short of 7 sweets

                      5 students + 3 sweets = 6 students - 7 sweets
                      1 student = 10 sweets

                      From case 1 ------(5x10 )+3 = 53 sweets

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                        Breadandmuffins:

                        Ds 's teacher uses the on sponge method called \"number of units and value of units\". He asked me when should he use this method cos he thinks it's possible to use guess and check too. Is there any way to tell? Do youthink model can be used here?
                        Hi

                        Good Morning.

                        MD is one of the many problem solving heuristics in primary school maths syllabus. It’s not the only one.

                        While a picture might help some students to see maths better, it is not necessary to have visual representations for all answers especially when students are able to make connections without it.

                        A neat way to solve your question is to use “Grouping concept”.\t

                        If I am not wrong “Number*Value” method also uses the mechanics of “Grouping Concept” but it is presented in tabulated form.

                        Lower primary kids may also use GC. While using GC, it’s important not to do it in a haphazard way, try to present it in a logical way with calculated guesses.

                        Best wishes

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