DSA Appeal 2011
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jtoh:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: Ya thinking they signed non-disclosure agreement? :nunchuk:[/quote]sign or no sign .... if hv ..... will somehow be made known one la. this friend tell that friend. that friend tell this friend. soon will splash all over ksp forum. paper cannot wrap fire.zeemimi:
[quote=\"jtoh\"]I wonder if ALL DSA CO appeals have been rejected or if some slipped through the crack?
shhh .... :censored: :censored: :censored: -
:rotflmao:
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ycpang:
If RI now releases a student, who has accepted RI CO thru DSA, for him to join HCI (or any other schools), do you still consider RI a 'culprit' for breaking MOE's ruling???Chandelier:
My DS's fren parent called up RI this morning & was told appeal UNSUCCESSFUL for DSA CO high 26X (accepted HCI CO earlier). Admin staff said RI has tried their very best but MOE disapproved transfer. Claimed that letters has been send out (but they hvnt receive yet...) & will refund e $20.
RI is the number 1 culprit of this DSA appeal thingy. :mad: -
This is an odd question.
RI cannot force students to attend its school. Students may leave to go overseas… Students may even leave to be homeschooled. Why would RI break any ruling by releasing a student… any student? If HCI accepted a student whom it knew had previously committed to RI, it is HCI who helped parents to dishonour their commitments for the sake of a high t-score. RI has no choice but to release. -
firefly38:
If RI now releases a student, who has accepted RI CO thru DSA, for him to join HCI (or any other schools), do you still consider RI a 'culprit' for breaking MOE's ruling???[/quote]Your assumption is like asking; Am I guilty if I didn't kill anyone? Of course not lar. :?ycpang:
[quote=\"Chandelier\"]My DS's fren parent called up RI this morning & was told appeal UNSUCCESSFUL for DSA CO high 26X (accepted HCI CO earlier). Admin staff said RI has tried their very best but MOE disapproved transfer. Claimed that letters has been send out (but they hvnt receive yet...) & will refund e $20.
RI is the number 1 culprit of this DSA appeal thingy. :mad: -
I think there is a slight difference between the bond breakers and parents/students who requested for DSA transfer. For the bond breakers, I think they usually break their bond after they have finished the education whereas for the P6, they have not even entered the secondary school. The company has groomed the bond breaker and spent a lot $$$ and time on them but this is not the case in DSA. Are we expecting too much from a 12 year old child? Imagine a child rejected the CO from the second school without realising that he had written out of point for his compo during PSLE. As a result, he got a poor t-score and that he no longer qualified for most schools. Do we want the child to experience the pain/regret of making a wrong decision at the age of 12? I just dont feel comfortable about the DSA thing anymore and really fear that MOE may just implement something drastic and sudden and worst without informing the parents and students.
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jtoh:
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: Ya thinking they signed non-disclosure agreement? :nunchuk:[/quote]How to slip thru' the crack??? There will be some frens who know u hv DSA CO from HCI. Then if u do not appear in HCI and appear in RI, there will be whispering :nailbite: .....followed by talk and discussionzeemimi:
[quote=\"jtoh\"]I wonder if ALL DSA CO appeals have been rejected or if some slipped through the crack?
shhh .... :censored: :censored: :censored:
......and then the whole ksp will know!!! :rotflmao:
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PiggyLalala:
I think there is a slight difference between the bond breakers and parents/students who requested for DSA transfer. For the bond breakers, I think they usually break their bond after they have finished the education whereas for the P6, they have not even entered the secondary school. The company has groomed the bond breaker and spent a lot $$$ and time on them but this is not the case in DSA. Are we expecting too much from a 12 year old child? Imagine a child rejected the CO from the second school without realising that he had written out of point for his compo during PSLE. As a result, he got a poor t-score and that he no longer qualified for most schools. Do we want the child to experience the pain/regret of making a wrong decision at the age of 12? I just dont feel comfortable about the DSA thing anymore and really fear that MOE may just implement something drastic and sudden and worst without informing the parents and students.
I believe that most, if not all, DSA decisions are made in consultation with parents and in many cases, the parents would be the ones doing research and advising their children. So we can't say that the decision lay solely with the child and that we're expecting too much from a 12 year old. That's what parents are for. To guide. To advise. To comfort. Also, the decision to accept/reject a DSA offer is made a couple of weeks after PSLE. By this time, the child would have an inkling of how he's performed. In the immediate hours after the PSLE English and Chinese Paper 1s, there was a flurry of posters asking if what they'd written was out of point. There were also copious posts comparing answers. So it's not like the parent and child are choosing a school in a vacuum.
If parents are not comfortable about DSA, you don't have to participate in it. In fact, some parents I know prefer not to take part in DSA and just focus on PSLE.
I read on another forum that some parents were saying that their child's future was ruined because MOE clamped down on appeals. Is their DSA school so bad that their child's life is ruined? If so, why select the school to begin with? -
PiggyLalala:
Are we expecting too much from a 12 year old child?
The same argument was proferred for bond breakers. Are we expecting too much from the 18 year old? Pushing this logic to the end, scrap both DSA and scholarships because neither child... nor teen... have the wherewithal to make wise decisions. If they can't decide, then why provide the opportunity?PiggyLalala:
If he is of the calibre to get into 1st school and he makes a booboo on ONE section of ONE paper, he'll still end up in his 2nd school. If he didn't realise he did things wrong in MANY sections of multiple papers, then he is not quite there academically.Imagine a child rejected the CO from the second school without realising that he had written out of point for his compo during PSLE. As a result, he got a poor t-score and that he no longer qualified for most schools.
PiggyLalala:
Since the time DSA started (i.e., even back in DD's time), it was understood that if you ACCEPTED a place in one school, you had some moral obligation to stay there. This is not new. Also, if the child is 12, and parents so kiasu that they plan a back-up school via DSA, it is unlikely the child's own decision alone.Do we want the child to experience the pain/regret of making a wrong decision at the age of 12? I just don't feel comfortable about the DSA thing anymore and really fear that MOE may just implement something drastic and sudden and worst without informing the parents and students.
PiggyLalala:
I am not sure this slight difference matters at all. In a child's world, the opportunity to commit great sins is not there. The scholarship boards are not gonna worry about this difference between bond breakers and DSA CO-breakers. Their job is to evaluate the ROI of investing in a child. If, in the history of the child, there is any hint of a possibility that the child will grow up into someone who cannot honour small commitments, then the big investment becomes that much more risky.For the bond breakers, I think they usually break their bond after they have finished the education whereas for the P6, they have not even entered the secondary school. The company has groomed the bond breaker and spent a lot $$$ and time on them but this is not the case in DSA.
Basically, the scholarship board will assume that children absorb their parents values... and in the absence of any other information, this DSA CO info will just have to do as a proxy for what the child MIGHT do in the future. -
Chandelier:
My DS's fren parent called up RI this morning & was told appeal UNSUCCESSFUL for DSA CO high 26X (accepted HCI CO earlier). Admin staff said RI has tried their very best but MOE disapproved transfer. Claimed that letters has been send out (but they hvnt receive yet...) & will refund e $20.
Assuming those PSLE-high-scorers who are appealing to RI now (after accepting CO from another school) had also applied for RI's DSA but were rejected by RI, then shouldn't it be RI's fault for rejecting them in the first place?
Should MOE allow RI to continue accepting DSAed students formerly rejected by RI during DSA phase, wouldn't it be unfair to other schools who had given COs to these students?
If the DSA-appeal practice were allowed to carry on, then, what rightfully should be RI's fault for its failure to identify the top-scorers, seems to become other schools' fault for giving COs to students who regard these schools as their second choice!!
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