All About GEP

[metz]

sleepy:

Hi parents


Have you heard of kids who are tested gifted but didn't get into GEP :scratchhead:

According to the MOE Gifted branch, the answer is yes.

Even if they are tested \"gifted\", these kids are not exempted from the GEP screening tests.

The IQ tests are a different matter from the GEP screening tests.

[MrsSeah]

chamonix:

Trapwithin:

[quote=\"Niyaji\"] Intelligence can only be built up since infancy, through years of stimulation and environment - NOT in last-minute \"prep classes\".

How true. To start preparing for GEP Selection in the last minutes, even if it can be trained, will be too late.

Heard of some parents that started preparing since Kindergarten :shock:

No wonder those brain training classes are so popular! So, training must start as young as possible to be effective. :rubhands:[/quote]Is it really can train?

I know of someone who son is a doctor. I asked him how he train his son. :lol:

He said \"天生\", his eldest son from young is very clever, don't need much guide and tuition, by P6 he already got Grade 8 in Piano and is taking diploma. His 2nd son in another way, stop the piano at grade 4 and is an average student.

I personally feel lah, by training we can only train our child to be above average student but to training gifted... mmm... I got doubt :?

[metz]

MrsSeah:

Is it really can train?

I know of someone who son is a doctor. I asked him how he train his son. :lol:

I know of a child whose parents are both doctor specialists. The child was always piled with countless assessment books and Maths Olympiad questions. Though he had always done well in school, he didn't manage to clear GEP round 2.

Another boy who had been attending brain training classes since young and started with TLL from K2, cleared both GEP rounds.

Perhaps the effectiveness of training depends on the areas and methods of training employed?

But of course, those who cleared the rounds without any such training should be naturally gifted.

[Trapwithin]

MrsSeah:

Is it really can train?

Personally for me, gifted or not, just teach the kids if they can absorb.
As long as they enjoy the learning and it is not too stressful on them.

If the child can absorb more, teach more.
If the child can absorb less, teach less.

The key is to cultivate their interest in acquiring knowledge.

GEP or not, there is no harm in teaching them new things

[vlim]

chamonix:

MrsSeah:

Is it really can train?

I know of someone who son is a doctor. I asked him how he train his son. :lol:

I know of a child whose parents are both doctor specialists. The child was always piled with countless assessment books and Maths Olympiad questions. Though he had always done well in school, he didn't manage to clear GEP round 2.

Another boy who had been attending brain training classes since young and started with TLL since K2, cleared both GEP rounds.

Perhaps the effectiveness of training depends on the areas and methods of training employed?

But of course, those who cleared the rounds without any such training should be naturally gifted.

the later boy who cleared gep tests could be gifted by nature.... :roll:

[Lilac66]

Cleared, but then on…are they struggling or enjoying their GEP course? I mean those who were trained since young… at TLL etc

[metz]

vlim:

the later boy who cleared gep tests could be gifted by nature.... :roll:

Can only be proven if we can have a control test, ie. have the boy do the GEP tests without attending any classes. Since it's not possible, it remains questionable if the child was gifted by nature, just like those kids who attend GEP prep classes and managed to clear the rounds.

Btw, please don't be mistaken that I'm against sending kids to enrichment/training classes. I just feel that there's no need to be hostile to those who choose to send their kids for last minute prep classes.

[jtoh]

Those who are not naturally gifted and somehow get into GEP through extensive training will suffer doing the GEP syllabus. My child was in GEP and from what I saw of her classmates, the ones who entered via

GEP prep courses struggled throughout their three years and were always bottom of the cohort. These were also the ones who weren’t offered DSA. And while they did well at the PSLE compared to mainstream students, they were still the bottom few among the GEP students. So really, what’s the point of struggling through 3 years of GEP, losing your self-confidence, and at the end of it not being offered DSA either.

[Lilac66]

chamonix:

vlim:

the later boy who cleared gep tests could be gifted by nature.... :roll:

Can only be proven if we can have a control test, ie. have the boy do the GEP tests without attending any classes. Since it's not possible, it remains questionable if the child was gifted by nature, just like those kids who attend GEP prep classes and managed to clear the rounds.

Btw, please don't be mistaken that I'm against sending kids to enrichment/training classes. I just feel that there's no need to be hostile to those who choose to send their kids for last minute prep classes.

Oh yes, to each his own. But just wondering about the kids, whether being 'artificially' trained to get in will spell trouble for them in future. Heard of cases whereby the children ended up in IMH. Real cases.

[metz]

jtoh:

Those who are not naturally gifted and somehow get into GEP through extensive training will suffer doing the GEP syllabus. My child was in GEP and from what I saw of her classmates, the ones who entered via

GEP prep courses struggled throughout their three years and were always bottom of the cohort. These were also the ones who weren't offered DSA. And while they did well at the PSLE compared to mainstream students, they were still the bottom few among the GEP students. So really, what's the point of struggling through 3 years of GEP, losing your self-confidence, and at the end of it not being offered DSA either.

Erm, there are some who are naturally gifted but at the bottom because of poor attitude.

And there are also some who have gone through extensive training but doing rather fine because of good attitude.

So, cannot generalize lah ...