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    Is GEP really necessary?

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      smurf
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      how to teach kids math or chinese WITHOUT having to know them yourself?? :?


      sure u need some basic mah, no meh??

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        Chenonceau
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        smurf:
        how to teach kids math or chinese WITHOUT having to know them yourself?? :?


        sure u need some basic mah, no meh??
        I know some Math (of course) but till now, cannot do models.

        I am illiterate in Chinese... though these days, I am learning fast to recognise some characters with the help of Google Translate. Quite fun. With some practice, I can even post some cheem Chinese (like 跳进黄河也洗不清) ... but I can help DS' compo marks improve from 18/40 in SA1 last year to 29/40 last week in a class compo.


        Can be done. To me, not difficult. To others, maybe impossible.

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          Chenonceau
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          2ppaamm:

          I also think kids should all just be in their own classes, mixed, so they can play with everyone their ages. You can have high ability classes, and I do suggest smaller class sizes of perhaps 30. And those gifted ones can be pulled out for their specialties with professors or industry experts (not the MOE teachers, for goodness sake!). And, every school should have their own HA classes, just 500 in a nation is just too small. Maybe at least 3 classes every school? We need to spend more on our own children's education! And, the GEP DSA should be open to ALL HA students if they want to keep it. Otherwise, scrap it!

          My other thought is that DSA and PSLE should be mutually exclusive. But that is another topic altogether! 😆
          This sounds a lot like what Yee Jenn Jong is suggesting. It is misleading to title his writings \"Scrap GEP\" or something like that. I read him through and realized that he wasn't suggesting to kill off GEP but to enhance it for the GEP and HA students' holistic development...

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            Nebbermind
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            2ppaamm:
            And, the GEP DSA should be open to ALL HA students if they want to keep it. Otherwise, scrap it!

            What is GEP DSA? Are u referring to certain privilege granted to some applicants in a few schools?

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              phtthp
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              http://yeejj.wordpress.com/2012/03/25/extract-of-cos-debate-on-moe-gifted-education-and-pri-to-sec-integrated-programme/

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                toddles
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                2ppaamm:

                As it is, we have low spending in education, weird gifted programs and real gifted children left in the cold, unequal advantage given to children identified at P3, etc. These just do not make sense to me.
                Low spending in education as relative to defense? cos MOE gets second highest budget every year.

                But yes, I totally agree that smaller class sizes are the way to go, across the board, for ALL schools. It will help solve a whole spectrum of problems.
                i) more attention/better quality teaching to each child
                ii) less severely overworked teachers (marking wise)
                iii) more order in class, less crowd control discipline issues

                Train more teachers, hire more teachers, teach the teachers WELL.

                Recall it was also in some opposition manifesto to increase the teaching workforce and regulate/curtail the less value-add industries.

                Recently heard it said again by a respected academic - why should there be so many real estate agents? cut them by half! channel resources into attracting ppl into meaningful, true value add professions like teaching that help in nation building.

                Not to offend realtors, but objectively, is their value add commensurate with the commission? everyone is just leeching on unsustainable property prices in the current baseless euphoria. perhaps there should be a severe crash /rightful correction in the ppty market, then resources can be channeled to more meaningful economic sectors. and even if there isn't, should there be a cap on commission? does a person selling a $39m ppty do very much more than someone who sells a $700k one?

                Teachers are already being paid relatively well, but if class sizes are reduced, we'll need many more teachers. no need to pay each teacher more, just need to channel more budget into paying more teachers.

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                  Nebbermind
                  last edited by

                  When he wrote about pri->sec thru train, I was...er...we had that all along in some schools....true enough he went on to talk about affiliated schools.


                  While it can still be very competitive in these schools, there are also some parents of 'mid-band' kids who will still try their best but are not too worried as the COP will be around 220~235. As long as u get into the affiliated sec schools, u still have 4 more yrs to find your footing and flourish... 😉

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                    2ppaamm
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                    toddles:
                    2ppaamm:


                    As it is, we have low spending in education, weird gifted programs and real gifted children left in the cold, unequal advantage given to children identified at P3, etc. These just do not make sense to me.

                    Low spending in education as relative to defense? cos MOE gets second highest budget every year.

                    But yes, I totally agree that smaller class sizes are the way to go, across the board, for ALL schools. It will help solve a whole spectrum of problems.
                    i) more attention/better quality teaching to each child
                    ii) less severely overworked teachers (marking wise)
                    iii) more order in class, less crowd control discipline issues

                    Train more teachers, hire more teachers, teach the teachers WELL.

                    Recall it was also in some opposition manifesto to increase the teaching workforce and regulate/curtail the less value-add industries.

                    Recently heard it said again by a respected academic - why should there be so many real estate agents? cut them by half! channel resources into attracting ppl into meaningful, true value add professions like teaching that help in nation building.

                    Not to offend realtors, but objectively, is their value add commensurate with the commission? everyone is just leeching on unsustainable property prices in the current baseless euphoria. perhaps there should be a severe crash /rightful correction in the ppty market, then resources can be channeled to more meaningful economic sectors. and even if there isn't, should there be a cap on commission? does a person selling a $39m ppty do very much more than someone who sells a $700k one?

                    Teachers are already being paid relatively well, but if class sizes are reduced, we'll need many more teachers. no need to pay each teacher more, just need to channel more budget into paying more teachers.

                    Small education budget per head as compared to the rest of the developed countries.

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                      Nebbermind
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                      Nothing much to add....juz sharing something I just came across


                      http://hedgehogcomms.blogspot.com/2012/04/why-villainising-gep-does-no-one-any.html

                      Any thoughts to share?

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                        toddles
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                        Nebbermind:
                        Nothing much to add....juz sharing something I just came across


                        http://hedgehogcomms.blogspot.com/2012/04/why-villainising-gep-does-no-one-any.html

                        Any thoughts to share?
                        A balanced treatment of the whole issue.

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