Is GEP really necessary?

[verykiasu2010]

Way2GO:

2ppaamm:

And, one more point. It was a blessing for Lim Jeck not to be in GEP. His circumstances is unique. If he were in GEP, he would have no time with his parents to work on his love for Math, he would have spent time with his teachers (or rather, tutors) struggling with English. As a mainstreamer, he gets normal work and he gets time to pursue his Math. So everything worked out well for Lim Jeck. So Lim Jeck is where he is BECAUSE (not inspite of) he is not in GEP. But again, not every child has Mathematician parents like the Lims.

Agreed dat if LJ was in GEP, he wld hv diverted much time to cope with English n perhaps MT which he cld otherwise hv use more productively to nurture his interest in Maths. So fr dat perspective, d GEP selection was not wrong, right?
Its quite obvious d term 'gifted' in GEP has to be taken with a large dollop of salt since it is statistically impossible to hv 500+ truly gifted kids consistently every year.
As u n some here hv nailed it, these 1% of each cohort r being trained n tracked to hopefully provide d numbers to continue to drive d economy n help in d administration of dis country in future.

have you read the comments from LJ's other subject teachers from NUSH on him ? go read and have fun !!

[Way2GO]

Nebbermind:

Exactly! Their objectives have always been different from what we thought! Everything they told us is just a smokescreen!

I wouldn't go so far as to say GEB/MOE deliberately hookwink parents.
Though not explicitly mentioned, many wld hv come to d realization on their own dat d GEP system is there to serve a greater purpose than just nurture only truly gifted children who r few n far between.

Nebbermind:

Anyway, if LJ doesn't fit into GEP, then he will not fit into a rigid SG system! He's as good as gone when he leaves for some US uni!

There was Ainan Cawley who left for Malaysia. Any updates on how he has coped since he left?

[Way2GO]

verykiasu2010:

have you read the comments from LJ's other subject teachers from NUSH on him ? go read and have fun !!

Nope. Can please provide d link(s)? Danke.

[2ppaamm]

ksi:

2ppaamm, if the time is right and if there is a chance one day I will explain it to you. Suffice to say now, the good reason I talk about for keeping mum in general is a noble one...so go along the line of positive thinking. You have hit on quite a number of valid points, just have not put the whole picture together to see the rationale.

Haha... actually, I am at a point where I think I am spending too much time on something I have no interest in anymore, which is the GEP. I have already decided it is a waste of my time, and that it actually hampers my kids' development. I have also decided my youngest won't even sit for the tests, knowing it does not benefit him at all.

So, I am going to focus my effort on more productive stuff. All these are just academic discussions for me. I do believe you have been sold to some valid and noble reasons. Suffice to say such reasons does not add to the education of giftedness as the branch is supposed to do. Maybe for other reasons that I am not privy to, which is not important to me at the moment. Whatever the purpose of GEP is unknown to me, and since it is such a top secret, we the common man have to just guess and speculate, which I think should never be the case. We have been told the purpose is to raise gifted children, but have we been misled? Don't know, don't even bother. I'm off to prepare lunch! :siam:

[2ppaamm]

[corneyAmber]

Way2GO:

I wouldn't go so far as to say GEB/MOE deliberately hookwink parents.
Though not explicitly mentioned, many wld hv come to d realization on their own dat d GEP system is there to serve a greater purpose than just nurture only truly gifted children who r few n far between.

I agree with this. They benefit nothing to hoodwink the parents.

ps: Way2go, was your spelling error deliberate? :evil:

[verykiasu2010]

Way2GO:

verykiasu2010:

have you read the comments from LJ's other subject teachers from NUSH on him ? go read and have fun !!

Nope. Can please provide d link(s)? Danke.

read from his blog, maintained by his mum, some time back, at least last year.

the blog is something like \"dontmesswith6a\"

[corneyAmber]

2ppaamm:

ksi:

2ppaamm, if the time is right and if there is a chance one day I will explain it to you. Suffice to say now, the good reason I talk about for keeping mum in general is a noble one...so go along the line of positive thinking. You have hit on quite a number of valid points, just have not put the whole picture together to see the rationale.

Haha... actually, I am at a point where I think I am spending too much time on something I have no interest in anymore, which is the GEP. I have already decided it is a waste of my time, and that it actually hampers my kids' development. I have also decided my youngest won't even sit for the tests, knowing it does not benefit him at all.

So, I am going to focus my effort on more productive stuff. All these are just academic discussions for me. I do believe you have been sold to some valid and noble reasons. Suffice to say such reasons does not add to the education of giftedness as the branch is supposed to do. Maybe for other reasons that I am not privy to, which is not important to me at the moment. Whatever the purpose of GEP is unknown to me, and since it is such a top secret, we the common man have to just guess and speculate, which I think should never be the case. We have been told the purpose is to raise gifted children, but have we been misled? Don't know, don't even bother. I'm off to prepare lunch! :siam:

Actually I can see that you are doing the right things for your children. Your mother's instinct for your children would still be the best and your efforts will never be futile. :hugs:

[2ppaamm]

ksi:

Way2GO:

I wouldn't go so far as to say GEB/MOE deliberately hookwink parents.
Though not explicitly mentioned, many wld hv come to d realization on their own dat d GEP system is there to serve a greater purpose than just nurture only truly gifted children who r few n far between.

I agree with this. They benefit nothing to hoodwink the parents.

ps: Way2go, was your spelling error deliberate? :evil:

:rotflmao: it looks deliberate to me!!

[ammonite]

Interesting conversation here. I wonder why some gifted kids thrive in the programme and others don’t. Does it work better for moderately gifted kids and HA kids, and not for PG and 2E kids? But again, there have been PG and 2E kids who went through the programme right? But I think our primary schools do not cater at all to kids who are little philosophers or tinkerers. They need either a very thick skin or to develope their own mental capsule to get through the grind.