MPM Maths - Discussion
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deardear07:
Know what you mean. I reduced TV time, and for enrichment I try to sign both older kids in the same centres.
hey, thanks for the info!SAHM_TAN:
Hi deardear07,
Sorry for being kaypo, though your question is directed to laughingcat but I'm butting in becos I sent my DD1 to shichida before too.Through my search I have found that many educational toys / program are rather similar or can be traced to similar starting point. So it's not surprising that you find similarities between Jelic and shichida. BUT for shichida, the focus is on right brain training. They train on photomemory, speed reading, imaging, intuition, foreign language, fine motor skills, flashcards, etc. My DD1 was with them for 1y starting when she was 2.5yos. But when I was preg with number 2 I find it hard to continue. Now with 3 kids, it's impossible for me to go with them. Plus everyday we need to work with the kids to see results. Of course I stopped when my DD1 was 3.5 yos, so I'm not able to share what shichida has for older kids.
But I still believe in right brain training so now I'm using home-based materials from US which is more suitable for my situation.
Jelic/MPM and shichida are very different in their emphasis, so depends what you are looking in an enrichment prog. Sorry couldn't help being kaypo.
my dd was also on shichida till i was preggy with ds and almost due...cun sit in the class with her on the low chairs~~
i have not really seen jelic materials but according to what i c on the website, there are similarities.
i dun mind training either side of the brain, as long as he gets more formal workouts... coz he has been learning on his own. guilty mum here. dd has been for many classes but none for ds till date. the only neurotree he was on for 6mths bored us parents so much that we withdrew instead.probably due to having gone thru shichida with dd made us extra bored...but he did v well there. tried simple words and greetings with the jap teacher there at 15mths old. so amusing!
wana get him away in classes so he doesn't play and look bored at home sometimes. away from the tv too...if u knw what i mean. hubby is the couch potato. sigh~
can share with me what home based materials u used? i only managed to get some taiwan or denmark IQ games...but havent been able to use them coz lack of time with ds at home. usually at home, i'd get distracted with chores...
For home based training I'm using this http://www.rightbrainkids.com/component/page,shop.browse/category_id,13/option,com_virtuemart/Itemid,26/
I think there's a thread about this here too.
I came across them in a bookfair about 2 yrs ago. There are 2 stage, TweedleWink for 0-6yos and Wink 6yos to 99yos :lol:
The 0-6yos is using DVD which include flashcards as well as eye exercise, intro to speed reading and \"training\" the eye cones.
The Wink package would deal more on relaxation, imaging, photomemory, speed reading,etc.
It's pretty similar to shichida but it does not have intuition.
There's a bookstore that sells their product, it's Mah YuYi at Bras Basah complex, it's the one that just sell children's book. You can check it out there.
I read the book and attended their online workshop to get a better understanding. -
bigsnoopy:
My DD is in shichida for almost 5 years and is still there. There is a little similarities. Shichida deals with the left and right brain. They always start with right brain training and allocate last 20 mins or so for left brain activity. MPM material is similar to shichida's left brain activity but much easier. For example book 71 standard which DD is doing now is equivalent to shichida training for 3 to 4 yrs old.
Since you DD is with Shichida for 5 yrs, she would be rather advance, why go with MPM? With Shichida's training, your DD might not need much from other enrichment centres, maybe for music yes. -
deardear07:
Hmmmm...Shichida work with the kids at 1-2 level above their age (2yo would be working on 3-4 yo level) but MPM work is at current level (base on my observations on my DD1's workbooks). So I think, it's not comparing apple to apple.bigsnoopy:
My DD is in shichida for almost 5 years and is still there. There is a little similarities. Shichida deals with the left and right brain. They always start with right brain training and allocate last 20 mins or so for left brain activity. MPM material is similar to shichida's left brain activity but much easier. For example book 71 standard which DD is doing now is equivalent to shichida training for 3 to 4 yrs old.
huh? :scared: MPM standard so low? what is in book 71? -
SAHM_TAN:
Hmmmm...Shichida work with the kids at 1-2 level above their age (2yo would be working on 3-4 yo level) but MPM work is at current level (base on my observations on my DD1's workbooks). So I think, it's not comparing apple to apple.[/quote]Agreed!shichida is working abv the child's level.din really work for my dd so thinking thrice abt sending ds there.but judging frm e way he learns,he could well benefit.but nw,expensive!loldeardear07:
[quote=\"bigsnoopy\"]My DD is in shichida for almost 5 years and is still there. There is a little similarities. Shichida deals with the left and right brain. They always start with right brain training and allocate last 20 mins or so for left brain activity. MPM material is similar to shichida's left brain activity but much easier. For example book 71 standard which DD is doing now is equivalent to shichida training for 3 to 4 yrs old.
huh? :scared: MPM standard so low? what is in book 71? -
SAHM_TAN:
When I went for the assessment, they say according to moe syllables ma. Then my DD cannot make it for the more than and less than tricky questions. They say have material able to help. I didn't expect it to be like shichida material. I thought its more academic in accordance to moe material. Actually shichida helps in brain development, you still need to go for enrichment classes. Shichida helps the kids to learn things faster and easier. Shichida helps to develop stimulated brain and we as parents must help the child to use this stimulated brain on the academic work. That is wat shichida is all about.bigsnoopy:
My DD is in shichida for almost 5 years and is still there. There is a little similarities. Shichida deals with the left and right brain. They always start with right brain training and allocate last 20 mins or so for left brain activity. MPM material is similar to shichida's left brain activity but much easier. For example book 71 standard which DD is doing now is equivalent to shichida training for 3 to 4 yrs old.
Since you DD is with Shichida for 5 yrs, she would be rather advance, why go with MPM? With Shichida's training, your DD might not need much from other enrichment centres, maybe for music yes. -
SAHM_TAN:
Hmmmm...Shichida work with the kids at 1-2 level above their age (2yo would be working on 3-4 yo level) but MPM work is at current level (base on my observations on my DD1's workbooks). So I think, it's not comparing apple to apple.[/quote]But DD child care which is a normal neighbour one even faster than mpm leh. I don't know I need to observe since my dd only in mpm for 3 months.deardear07:
[quote=\"bigsnoopy\"]My DD is in shichida for almost 5 years and is still there. There is a little similarities. Shichida deals with the left and right brain. They always start with right brain training and allocate last 20 mins or so for left brain activity. MPM material is similar to shichida's left brain activity but much easier. For example book 71 standard which DD is doing now is equivalent to shichida training for 3 to 4 yrs old.
huh? :scared: MPM standard so low? what is in book 71? -
bigsnoopy:
When I went for the assessment, they say according to moe syllables ma. Then my DD cannot make it for the more than and less than tricky questions. They say have material able to help. I didn't expect it to be like shichida material. I thought its more academic in accordance to moe material. Actually shichida helps in brain development, you still need to go for enrichment classes. Shichida helps the kids to learn things faster and easier. Shichida helps to develop stimulated brain and we as parents must help the child to use this stimulated brain on the academic work. That is wat shichida is all about.[/quote]My view on shichida is different.SAHM_TAN:
[quote=\"bigsnoopy\"]My DD is in shichida for almost 5 years and is still there. There is a little similarities. Shichida deals with the left and right brain. They always start with right brain training and allocate last 20 mins or so for left brain activity. MPM material is similar to shichida's left brain activity but much easier. For example book 71 standard which DD is doing now is equivalent to shichida training for 3 to 4 yrs old.
Since you DD is with Shichida for 5 yrs, she would be rather advance, why go with MPM? With Shichida's training, your DD might not need much from other enrichment centres, maybe for music yes.
It's to build library of knowledge. Because of the flash cards and the ability of the right brain to absorb, it becomes a library. To draw it out and organise it, it needs the left brain.
The training of photomemory, speed reading, linking memory, enable the child to remember information quickly and retain it more permanently and able to store more information.
The language training enable the child to pick up language easier.
When a child is able to read independently, the child would be able to learn independently from resources such as books, etc.
The left brain will help to process and make sense of the information from the right brain.
Of course there are other aspects such as maths, visual spatial, etc that shichida works on. My understanding of shichida is based on my DD1's 1 yr with them, so might be skewed
My schedule does not fit into shichida, so am using another method which suits a mother of 3 kids. Since I need to stop for awhile becos of bb, I'm using my home-based material at a more leisurely pace. Also base on the current method, my DD1 is not ready for speed reading training yet, so will hold that for a while.
The person-in-charge did not let you see a sample of the MPM workbook? -
Hi Bigsnoppy,
If you only looking at maths and have no element of shichida, you may want to look into Sakamoto. -
bigsnoopy:
My DD1's kindy is also more advance in regards to subtraction and addition than MPM. If just by looking at maths her kindy is teaching more than required for P1 and will be more than her P1.
But DD child care which is a normal neighbour one even faster than mpm leh. I don't know I need to observe since my dd only in mpm for 3 months.
Once DD1 is in Primary school, I think MPM will be more aligned. I guess I'm not bothered because my objective is more than maths
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SAHM_TAN:
Ok will check it out. ThanksHi Bigsnoppy,
If you only looking at maths and have no element of shichida, you may want to look into Sakamoto.
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