Aristocare

[fightingmom]

ksi:

Lynn2010:

Hehehe..... next forum:


\"How to cane your child to enter GEP\"....... tuition fees $100 / hr

You are hilarious Lynn!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Canes have different types too...designer ones or mid-market ones or common ones? :boogie: Different rates apply....

can choose color ?



:siam: :siam:

[corneyAmber]

fightingmom:

ksi:

[quote=\"Lynn2010\"]Hehehe..... next forum:


\"How to cane your child to enter GEP\"....... tuition fees $100 / hr

You are hilarious Lynn!! :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Canes have different types too...designer ones or mid-market ones or common ones? :boogie: Different rates apply....

can choose color ?



:siam: :siam:[/quote]Of course!!! Rainbow colour also have.... everything can be custom-made.. :rotflmao:

[Lynn2010]

My mother say "Caning will help me to get into GEP".


Rainbow sounds good… cos i’m KS… I want all colours

[corneyAmber]

Lynn2010:

My mother say \"Caning will help me to get into GEP\".


Rainbow sounds good..... cos i'm KS..... I want all colours

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: get me some support, I am rolling over... :udawoman:

PS: Giftedgem, no offence to you on your sharing... We just need to have some laughter, the best medicine, after a horrible rumour. On a serious note, I also do not think caning is a completely bad thing if a parent knows how to exercise it. Only problem is not all parents know how to so advocating it effective can just be a teeny weeny bit dangerous if they do it wrongly...

[fightingmom]

Lynn2010:

My mother say \"Caning will help me to get into GEP\".


Rainbow sounds good..... cos i'm KS..... I want all colours

:rotflmao: :rotflmao:

good luck to your butt !

[Lynn2010]

ksi:

Lynn2010:

My mother say \"Caning will help me to get into GEP\".


Rainbow sounds good..... cos i'm KS..... I want all colours

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: get me some support, I am rolling over... :udawoman:

:grphug:

[GiftedGem]

No worries. I find it amusing too....with Lynn's comments.

ksi:

Lynn2010:

My mother say \"Caning will help me to get into GEP\".

Rainbow sounds good..... cos i'm KS..... I want all colours

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: get me some support, I am rolling over... :udawoman:

PS: Giftedgem, no offence to you on your sharing... We just need to have some laughter, the best medicine, after a horrible rumour. On a serious note, I also do not think caning is a completely bad thing if a parent knows how to exercise it. Only problem is not all parents know how to so advocating it effective can just be a teeny weeny bit dangerous if they do it wrongly...

[corneyAmber]

GiftedGem:

No worries. I find it amusing too....with Lynn's comments.

ksi:

[quote=\"Lynn2010\"]My mother say \"Caning will help me to get into GEP\".

Rainbow sounds good..... cos i'm KS..... I want all colours

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: get me some support, I am rolling over... :udawoman:

PS: Giftedgem, no offence to you on your sharing... We just need to have some laughter, the best medicine, after a horrible rumour. On a serious note, I also do not think caning is a completely bad thing if a parent knows how to exercise it. Only problem is not all parents know how to so advocating it effective can just be a teeny weeny bit dangerous if they do it wrongly...

[/quote] :hi5: :celebrate:

[Zeng]

On a more serious note,

The other side of Caning
:sad:

How Spanking Feels: Images and Words from Children
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPES67rRjrU

[ForumWriter]

Zeng:

ForumWriter:

[quote=\"Zeng\"]Thats why the relevant authorities (or anyone here can confirm) should check if this so called center is registered bec in its original website info before it was taken down and in this thread, it was mentioned that there is a $200 registration fee ( payable annually) and a deposit. So if it is not a tution center, is the Consumer Act that Case mentioned in ST applicable? If these are free lance private transactions, what kind of rules/law are applicable?


If you recall, in their website, Aristocare has 3 names as \"directors\" and \"principal\". Where are there? How come ST did not mention or interview all these directors?

Nope, relevant authorities won't check. As I've mentioned earlier in this thread, why would the government get its hands dirty? It'll just sit back, relax, and let the disgruntled parents hire private investigators and lawyers.

The forum letter from CASE already proves it, right? Instead of starting its own investigation to find out who was affected and take action against KO, it chooses to write a letter, inviting people to officially complain and seek legal action. Easy way out.

Of course, it's obvious that not everyone reads the papers/forums every day and could have missed CASE's message, but CASE doesn't care, does it?

I still stand by what I say: Parents should not get refunds since they were told by the government that GEP can't be trained (implication: GEP training sessions are useless/fake). But the government should still take action against KO just like any other scammer, instead of waiting for people to take their own legal action.

The fact that CASE came out and stated its stand in our national papers and inviting people to take legal recourse in this case is already quite unusual. We have to give them credit for this.

Under what law will the relevant authorities be able to take action against aristocare?[/quote]Yup, if there isn't a law, create one! Or set up an independent panel to make recommendations on how to deal with these sort of tuition centres (not necessarily take action). That's why we have MPs and Parliament. Lim Biow Chuan, president of CASE, is an MP. He should raise this issue of scamming up in Parliament as well.

There is a law against scamming already, just that no one enforces it. After all, Singapore is best-known in the world for its laws, right?

Don't have to go through such elaborate scam as KO. Simple one of collecting payment then not showing up will do. Last time for music lessons, we paid an entire month's worth in advance, but the tutor just showed up for the first lesson and subsequently AWOLed. Reported to the police, they filed the case but took no further action even though we provided his name, contact number and address for their easy reference.

Look at it realistically. It is almost impossible for parents to get the names of all the affected parents to file a class-action lawsuit right? But if the government just demands his records, it will have access to the names of affected parties immediately.

The government needs to take more pro-active action; if anything, it shows that it is determined to stamp out scamming personally. Instead of just sitting back because this matter falls outside of its responsibility.