All About Getting Priority Registration

[verykiasu2010]

lynn2009:

........ for alumni, what do they contribute other than study in that school before?.........

many alumni are actively involved in supporting the schools' activities like conducting CCA and enrichment program, doing fund raising drive, providing free services like legal consultation, free medical and dental service for students (some PV also do the same if no alumni offers the services) etc

these are thankless task and not visible to outsiders who has no contact with the schools

of course there are inactive alumni too

active alumni participants and contributors should be recognised for maintaining the school tradition and the spirit of service

of course those who come from government built schools with short history will think nothing of alumni

[alng]

lynn2009:

Active rc member n pv plays a much bigger role and serve the neighborhood n school directly. for alumni, what do they contribute other than study in that school before? Some of them dont stay in that estate but they are sending their child to that estate just because they are from that school n the residents who stayed there would not get their child to that school n the poor child has to travel further to go to another school. This system does not seems to be right.

I agree that there are many inactive alumni who did nothing but just paid for the alumni fee to get into phase 2A1 registration. I come from a school with more than 100 years of history and I have seen many active alumni members. Some are three generations of former students coming from the same family being active in the school activities. Some are siblings and cousins who have attended the same school and now doing their parts to repay the school which has groomed them. Some of them are not even volunteering themselves for their children as their children have grown up or that they are single. This group of selfless active alumni cannot be disregarded.

Phase 2A is unlikely to be abolished completely. It could be capped and offered to active alumni only but the schools and alumni associations will have the final say on the qualifications of active alumni. If we reach that stage, we will face a different set of issues and complaints. No one system will satisfy all.

[phtthp]

lynn2009:

Active rc member n pv plays a much bigger role and serve the neighborhood n school directly. for alumni, what do they contribute other than study in that school before?

can you illustrate to us some clear examples :-
how does an active RC member serve or contribute to any primary School DIRECTLY ?

Please do Not give vague answers like Oh well ! we serve the community or neighbourhood at large. Therefore, we are also serving schools. Which particular school within that neighbourhood are you serving or impacting DIRCTLY, may i ask ? And in what precise way ?

Please do NOT Shoot at the Phase 2A alumni members, without substantiating any valid reasons clearly.

Reason:
because everyone knows that your selfish desire is just want to get into that popular school NOW (TODAY). But once your child gets in, child will also become one of the Phase 2A members in future. So do not try to be a hypocrite, BEFORE you get in. Because you'll be singing a DIFFERENT Tune, AFTER your child has entered into a branded, popular school. So WHY are you turning yourself against Phase 2A members, when there is a possible potential that one fine day in future, your child jolly well might also come under Phase 2A, become a Phase 2A member ?

alng:

Phase 2A is unlikely to be abolished completely. It could be capped and offered to active alumni only, but the schools and alumni associations will have the final say on the qualifications of active alumni.

going forward, it is possible that one fine day in future, Phase 2A is offered to ACTIVE alumni only. This way, the numbers become capped automatically. How to decide which alumni member is Active or Not ? The individual school's Alumni committee then has to define out front very clearly what are the new Phase 2A requirements & expectations ?

however before we even touch Phase 2A, i think we need to implement something else far more important first. The Educational needs of a NATION must come first & foremost above all else. ie. All SC crucial priority needs must come first. Therefore, kindly remove the Non SC (alumni + siblings) from Phase 1 & 2A first. For every non SC (alumni or sibling) that is occupying a seat, it has deprived an SC child of that precious seat, across ALL phases. In short, implement & give all SC \"Absolute Priority\" across all Phases. No more such thing as giving only half hearted Priority across the board, to all fellow SC.

Ask yourself in all fairness & silently in your heart :-
there are 2 kids standing right before you, both crying out for seats. You would love to absorb both to come in. But unfortunately, you have only 1 seat left.
one is an SC child from Phase 2B / 2C, standing before you.
another is a non SC child from Phase 1 sibling, or a non SC child from Phase 2A.

As a NATION of Singapore, Who do you think deserves the place more ?
MOE Singapore rule states: -
every Singaporea citizen child has to enrol into a Primary school, when time is due for enrolment, Primary 1.

alng:

No one system will satisfy all.

Yes, that's true. No one system will satisfy all.
if satisfy Phase 2A, 2B & 2C Not happy.
if statisfy Phase 2B & 2C, 2A Not happy.
so how ?
No system can satisfy all.

Put yourself in the shoes of an Education politician policy maker. Think. Why do you think this year 2012 then start to give some priority back to SC ?

reason:-
only SC has voting power. Non SC do not get to vote, hence .... no power. The last thing a politician want to see is .... our Singaporean votes swing towards the Opposition party, in the next upcoming election campaign. Thus, he need to win the hearts of SC. When to start winning? NOW. Winning the hearts of SC back take time. Got to start a few years ahead, before the General Election actual day come. So of course, start NOW.

Since \"No system can satisfy all\", some group has to give way. Some group has to be .... sacrificed.
Ask yourself silently in your heart: If you are a policy maker leader / politician & you really have no choice but to sacrifice one group, which group will you choose ? obvious: those who have no voting power ....

Kelsy:

You'll never know what will happen in the future.
Recently there's a lot of uproar as some schools have asked PVs to come up with proposals.

Who knows whether MOE may abolish PV system.

going forward, this can become a potential possibility.
Hot, popular schools like Rosyth had already abolished PV.

under Phase 2B -
if PV is abolished one day, people can still turn to the alternate GRL route. Is not a dead end.

[lynn2009]

I have friend who is alumni and did not serve the school actively. Worst, just joined alumni because the boy is due for p1 registration. NowI have a clearer picture of some alumni does contribute to the school actively.thus, they deserved to go to phase 2a. But for those inactive alumni, they should serve the school within a certain period of time in order to entitle phase 2a. No system is perfect but improvement is needed.

[weyw]

lynn2009:

I have friend who is alumni and did not serve the school actively. Worst, just joined alumni because the boy is due for p1 registration. NowI have a clearer picture of some alumni does contribute to the school actively.thus, they deserved to go to phase 2a. But for those inactive alumni, they should serve the school within a certain period of time in order to entitle phase 2a. No system is perfect but improvement is needed.

that friend of yours is under 2A1 (alumni)... Pls do not pull the whole of phase 2A in...
2A2 belongs to old gals and boys and even teachers teaching in that sch...(So next time your children will belong to this group.)
Unlike some of us here where our pri sch was closed down... we don't even belong to 2A2... but 2C .... :sad: ...

[lynn2009]

my pri school was closed down too…i dont remember during my time, we have this scheme. anyone knows how this scheme comes about? anyway,i always tell my child dont take thing for granted…must work for it.

[weyw]

lynn2009:

my pri school was closed down too...i dont remember during my time, we have this scheme. anyone knows how this scheme comes about? anyway,i always tell my child dont take thing for granted...must work for it.

during my times...in the late 80s and early 90s already have the phase 1 policy( i remember getting the registration forms for my sister and brother...my teacher even asked the whole class , those who have sister or brother coming to primary school to get the forms from her)...as for the phase 2A(1 n 2) i suppose it is rolled out in the late 80s or 90s too...

[Blessedwife]

phtthp:

can you illustrate to us some clear examples...

:goodpost: phtthp
Agree with u 100%

[pirate]

If you ask me, I think the first group that MOE should cut or cap is GRL under Phase 2B. Currently, the school plans by limiting or abolishing PVs, the clan association plans by limiting the number of recommendations. Then all these planning can be overwhelmed by a swarm of applications under the GRL route. What is worse is that the GRLs are not restricted to applying for a particular school. They can choose ANY school in the GRC. I don’t think they would be choosing the less popular schools in 2B, would they?


Furthermore, GRLs are supposed to be reflecting public opinions and the difficulties their constituents encounter upwards. How can one expect them to communicate the difficulties faced by parents if they are the ones who benefit from the current system? And I am not even getting into whether the grassroots organizations are actually political.

I think MOE should at least improve transparency and publish how many letters are issued for GRLs in each GRC; and how many registrations in each school in 2B are (1) PVs; (2) clan or church members; and (3) GRLs.

[weyw]

pirate:

If you ask me, I think the first group that MOE should cut or cap is GRL under Phase 2B. Currently, the school plans by limiting or abolishing PVs, the clan association plans by limiting the number of recommendations. Then all these planning can be overwhelmed by a swarm of applications under the GRL route. What is worse is that the GRLs are not restricted to applying for a particular school. They can choose ANY school in the GRC. I don't think they would be choosing the less popular schools in 2B, would they?


Furthermore, GRLs are supposed to be reflecting public opinions and the difficulties their constituents encounter upwards. How can one expect them to communicate the difficulties faced by parents if they are the ones who benefit from the current system? And I am not even getting into whether the grassroots organizations are actually political.

I think MOE should at least improve transparency and publish how many letters are issued for GRLs in each GRC; and how many registrations in each school in 2B are (1) PVs; (2) clan or church members; and (3) GRLs.

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