Population woes
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3Boys:
SMEs that relies on cheap labor instead of increasing productivity should make way for those who can do better.. The extinction of such business should not affect locals much because they are not relying on local workers to survive in the first place.
Well, the SMEs are suffering already. Lets see where this new fangled population tightening takes our industries in the future.
Where this leads to..? maybe narrowing of the income gap. -
limlim:
In the past, I have the impression that foreigners working here are talents.. They come in small numbers, and we could accommodate them
However, in recent years encounters, I find that most of the capable PMET workers in the company are actually locals.. and majority of the foreign PMET colleagues just CMI.. if that is the case, why do we need them? why do we want them? Probably only the bosses want them.. because they are CHEAP. the local worker don't see any value added.
If we take in PMETs, then the numbers should be controlled. And only real talents came here.
Then, there would be less complains.
Businesses that hire FT not just because they are cheap... they are more hardworking? They are not spoilt lucky, but they make it up by sheer hard-work? They are more willing to go a little extra miles?.... My DH can testify to that, though he is a 100% Singaporean.... -
limlim:
SMEs that relies on cheap labor instead of increasing productivity should make way for those who can do better.. The extinction of such business should not affect locals much because they are not relying on local workers to survive in the first place.3Boys:
Well, the SMEs are suffering already. Lets see where this new fangled population tightening takes our industries in the future.
Where this leads to..? maybe narrowing of the income gap.
Exactly how does a business can increase productivity by doing away with the FT/FW? They are the ones that increase the productivity, my DH will say. -
limlim:
You are making some mighty big assumptions.
SMEs that relies on cheap labor instead of increasing productivity should make way for those who can do better.. The extinction of such business should not affect locals much because they are not relying on local workers to survive in the first place.3Boys:
Well, the SMEs are suffering already. Lets see where this new fangled population tightening takes our industries in the future.
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pirate:
This thing is too complexed to be covered adequately with a few examples.I find the argument \"we have no problems with FWs, it's the FTs we don't want\" utterly ludicrous. Put it on the ground and it translates to:
Let's keep all the foreign unskilled construction workers who are on work permits, but send home all the welders, carpenters, plumbers, electricians etc on S1 passes and structural engineers on employment passes or who are PRs.
In a restaurant, it means let's keep the waiters on WPs, but send home the sous chefs on S1 passes and the chefs on EPs.
In my view, it is just another manifestation of the nimby symdrome, but this time the 'backyard' is the workplace.
Surely some imported labor is necessary. But the big issue is too much, unnecessary imports. -
pirate:
I find the argument \"we have no problems with FWs, it's the FTs we don't want\" utterly ludicrous. Put it on the ground and it translates to:
Let's keep all the foreign unskilled construction workers who are on work permits, but send home all the welders, carpenters, plumbers, electricians etc on S1 passes and structural engineers on employment passes or who are PRs.
In a restaurant, it means let's keep the waiters on WPs, but send home the sous chefs on S1 passes and the chefs on EPs.
In my view, it is just another manifestation of the nimby symdrome, but this time the 'backyard' is the workplace.
Sad isn't?
But the sadder part is, people are so myopic and narrow sighted... -
mamago:
If you read the HWZ thread on construction sector.. you get more information.
Exactly how does a business can increase productivity by doing away with the FT/FW? They are the ones that increase the productivity, my DH will say.
Without supply of cheap labor, companies are forced to improve productivity, which is only good in the long term. Such as investing in equipments etc..
Take SAF for example.
Bcoz manpower is limited, they made artillery that can be manned by 8 person instead of 12 traditionally. That, is better productivity. Same principle in the workplace. -
limlim:
Surely then it is too complex to be dealt with by a sweeping \"keep the FWs, send home the FTs\"?This thing is too complexed to be covered adequately with a few examples.
Surely some imported labor is necessary. But the big issue is too much, unnecessary imports. -
limlim:
But designing the $1mil equipment (and the cleanroom) can be done anywhere else in the world.
Depends on whether that screw is part of a $10 ikea chair or $1mil equipment in a class 100 cleanroom.3Boys:
Tightening a screw ain't engineering, it's called a household chore. -
limlim:
But that is actually reducing the FWs, not the PMET FTs.
If you read the HWZ thread on construction sector.. you get more information.
Without supply of cheap labor, companies are forced to improve productivity, which is only good in the long term. Such as investing in equipments etc..
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