P2 Math - General Discussion

[janet88]

optimistforum:

I would recommend Challenging Mathematics (EPH) Sundar. These are very difficult questions. My 7 year old is a little behind, and has only just completed the P1 book. Hopefully, he can complete P2 by July.


We also use the P1 and P2 Maths Olympiad Training by Terry Chew. I think this book is fantastic.

Challenging Maths by Sandhya Sundar is too tough...at this level or even higher levels, encouraging and motivating is the key. I didn't realize that and upset son's confidence. Now I try NOT to buy anything 'Challenging' unless school tells students to get.

[Yong HL]

janet_lee88:

[Challenging Maths by Sandhya Sundar is too tough...at this level or even higher levels, encouraging and motivating is the key. I didn't realize that and upset son's confidence. Now I try NOT to buy anything 'Challenging' unless school tells students to get.

I totally agree that motivating is key, esp at lower primary.
From what i observe from the top school exam papers for P1, most schools set questions at reasonable level, not really at \"challenging\" like those in assessment books. Even if there is, its only 1 question to differentiate a \"A\" and \"A-star\" student... I hope i am right... :xedfingers:

[Funz]

So far DD likes Andrew Er's problem sums and Dawn Tai's Challenging 4-in-1.


And since she liked those 2, I ambitiously bought the P1 math olympiad assessment but in the end did not let her attempt any questions in the book cos I had a hard time trying to figure out how to explain some of the more complex questions to her.

So too bad, this mummy's own limitation may be DD's limitation as well. But no lah, DD is no math genius.

[Callie Tan]

Yong HL:

janet_lee88:

[Challenging Maths by Sandhya Sundar is too tough...at this level or even higher levels, encouraging and motivating is the key. I didn't realize that and upset son's confidence. Now I try NOT to buy anything 'Challenging' unless school tells students to get.

I totally agree that motivating is key, esp at lower primary.
From what i observe from the top school exam papers for P1, most schools set questions at reasonable level, not really at \"challenging\" like those in assessment books. Even if there is, its only 1 question to differentiate a \"A\" and \"A-star\" student... I hope i am right... :xedfingers:

Yes actually most schools set reasonably ok maths questions with one or two IQ or higher level... but I enjoy exposing my P1 girl to those questions that are asked in very tircky ways... I hope to broaden her mind a bit...

[Yong HL]

Callie Tan:

Yes actually most schools set reasonably ok maths questions with one or two IQ or higher level... but I enjoy exposing my P1 girl to those questions that are asked in very tircky ways... I hope to broaden her mind a bit...

I generally skip the challenging part in the assessment books and only does them with my girl for fun Just now after dinner, we just try tackle \"challenging\" shapes and patterns for fun. Nevermind if she cant solve, same as you, just want to broaden her mindset

[janet88]

Funz:

So far DD likes Andrew Er's problem sums and Dawn Tai's Challenging 4-in-1.


And since she liked those 2, I ambitiously bought the P1 math olympiad assessment but in the end did not let her attempt any questions in the book cos I had a hard time trying to figure out how to explain some of the more complex questions to her.

So too bad, this mummy's own limitation may be DD's limitation as well. But no lah, DD is no math genius.

If your daughter enjoys Dawn Tai's book, then she is definitely in for bigger and challenging stuff down the road.

[optimistforum]

Hi janet_lee88


Can I ask a question, please?

DS2, who is a rising 8 (will be 8 in July) will start the EPH P2 Challenging Maths (by Sundar). I know that you have reservations about this book, but I have a question for you.

Does this book possess Maths Olympiad type questions? Would the P2 EPH Challenging Maths be enough, or do I need the Terry Chew Maths Olympiad Trainer 1 Book.

The reason I ask this is that DS2 will undertake entrance exams in a couple of years time, and the maths exam is numerical reasoning which tests on arithmetical and proprtional reasoning. No sample questions are given for the exam so I am wondering if P2 Challenging Maths will be enough, and then P3 … and so on to P6. I am led to believe that standard maths questions are not asked but rather more elaborate and novel maths problems.

Really, is the P2 Challenging Maths a very good book for drilling on difficult problems, or would I need the Olympiad Trainer Books too? Is it the most challenging available, as that is what i am looking for.

Yours thoughts are welcome.

[janet88]

optimistforum:

Hi janet


Can I ask a question, please?
DS2, who is a rising 8 (will be 8 in July) will start the EPH P2 Challenging Maths (by Sundar). I know that you have reservations about this book, but I have a question for you.

Does this book possess Maths Olympiad type questions? Would the P2 EPH Challenging Maths be enough, or do I need the Terry Chew Maths Olympiad Trainer 1 Book.

The reason I ask this is that DS2 will undertake entrance exams in a couple of years time, and the maths exam is numerical reasoning which tests on arithmetical and proprtional reasoning. No sample questions are given for the exam so I am wondering if P2 Challenging Maths will be enough, and then P3 ....... and so on to P6. I am led to believe that standard maths questions are not asked but rather more elaborate and novel maths problems.

Really, is the P2 Challenging Maths a very good book for drilling on difficult problems, or would I need the Olympiad Trainer Books too? Is it the most challenging available, as that is what i am looking for.

Yours thoughts are welcome.

Hi optimistforum,
Sorry I'm not able to provide any answers because I didn't get this title for several years. If you would like to see a sample page or 2 of this book, maybe you would like to view them at http://www.eph.com.sg. Go to 'our products' on the left column and select the level/subject you would like to see. Challenging Maths by Dawn Tai is from EPH.

[Idono]

Dear all KSP,


I’ve great difficulty trying to teach maths modelling questions to my DS. Seeking help to share ideas and methods… and what kind of aids / assessment books are useful?

The problem is I can show him 1 type, but everytime the questions change a bit, he’ll get confused and lost…

Some sample questions

1. Lycia has 10 more sweets than Yi Hui. Yi Hui has 3 sweets left after giving away 4 sweets. How many sweets does Lycia have?

2. Elicia has 18 bookmarks. She gives away 3 bookmarks to Cherine. If Cherine has the same number of bookmarks as Elicia now, how many bookmarks does Cherine have at first?

[kiasu2008]

2 stars & 1 circle = 180

1 star & 1 circle = 90
1 star & 1 rectangle + 160

What’s value of rectangle ?

Let me know if you have answer