Catholic High School
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coast\" post_id=\"2003989\" time=\"1606299188\" user_id=\"38933:
:congrats:Fabipillow\" post_id=\"2003925\" time=\"1606293097\" user_id=\"66261:
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You can always discuss with his HCL teacher and/or form teacher on your concerns (dropping HCL earlier).
Hope it helps. All the best!
https://catholichigh.moe.edu.sg/frequently-asked-questions/
(A11) Can I offer/don’t offer Higher Chinese (HCL)?
CHS is a SAP school, and we aim to have students learn their mother tongue to the highest level possible for each individual student. Our Integrated Programme (IP) students offer HCL in their first two years (Years 1 and 2), and they typically go on to offer HCL in Years 3 and 4. We encourage all our students to offer HCL as far as they could and if they qualify. On top of improving their cultural intelligence quotient and world readiness skill set, offering HCL will open opportunities and pathways for our students long after they have completed secondary education.
Thanks! My son can go IP or O level track with his T score. He wants to go IP but I have my reservations. O levels will be less stressful and easier to find resources and tuition centers.
Can anyone share reading resources and tuition centres suitable for CHS IP ?
Some key points to note:-
If he chooses CHS IP, he will go to Eunoia JC.
If he chooses CHS O Level, he will apply for admission to junior colleges (JC) via JAE with his O Level results. Some students may choose other routes (eg DSA, Poly, …).
IP & O Level curriculum are quite different. You and your son should discuss to see which is more suitable for him.
For most O Level curriculum, especially during Sec 4, teachers & students will be focusing on the O-Level syllabus and exam. Whereas IP students will have a broader curriculum (eg more projects, presentations, … etc).
Hope the following links helps. All the best to your son!
https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/article/integrated-programme-or-o-levels-an-easy-choice/
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/parenting-education/ask-sandra-will-my-son-feel-second-class-if-he-takes-the-o-level-track
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Also, involve your son in making the decision and take into consideration what he wants.
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Parents choosing between the IP and O-level track should consider which will be a better fit for their children.
Those on the IP skip the O levels and the programme requires students to be independent learners. So it does not suit those who need a more structured programme and a major examination, like the O levels, to hunker down and study.[/quote]Thanks Coast for your prompt reply. My son loves EJC ! It's just a bridge across our house. In fact, we can even see the school from my flat. It saves time travelling, hence a big bonus for us. -
Fabipillow\" post_id=\"2004092\" time=\"1606307675\" user_id=\"66261:
That's great! :rahrah:
Thanks Coast for your prompt reply. My son loves EJC ! It's just a bridge across our house. In fact, we can even see the school from my flat. It saves time travelling, hence a big bonus for us.
There is a live chat with school leaders tomorrow at 9 am or 11 am (refer link below). Will be good if you and your son can attend (virtually). Otherwise, go to the website and check out the videos to know more about CHS.
https://catholichigh.moe.edu.sg/openhouse/
Missed our virtual Open House on 16 May? Catch up with the videos here on this page. Be sure to check out the rest of our website too!
We will be having a second reach out to prospective students and parents through ‘live’ chats with school leaders on 27 November. Please visit this page again on 27 November at 9 am or 11 am. No registration is required.
If you have a question that you would like addressed during the live chat, please send your question here.
https://go.gov.sg/chsoh2020qna -
Option\" post_id=\"2004012\" time=\"1606301639\" user_id=\"185249:
IP curriculum differs across IP schools. Are you referring to IP in general or Catholic High IP (as this is CHS thread)?
I am trying to clarify some assumptions. I have heard people saying that academically better students tend to opt for IP than O levels, not singling out the actual competence of an individual but as an IP or O levels cohort for a year. Pardon my ignorance, but I am getting the impression that MOE is giving a similar impression. We have a sizable number of students who have taken :
(a) O levels and gone with JAE for a JC
(b) IP and gone into the same JC
whether they are schools with dual track programs or otherwise. (The same inference can be extended to those who took O levels and IP and went for Poly).
A levels is not everything (without having enough context on what learning is about) but many O levels and IP students inevitably end up in JCs.
While there's some talk that IP students have 'advanced learning' during Yrs 1-4, I have not seen concrete evidence to suggest IP students do better than O level students at A levels (not necessarily the affiliated JC that the IP student came from) all these years, or did I miss something ?
As for independent learning in IP, what exactly do we mean in IP environments by examples ? Independent learning of A level syllabus ? Independent learning for things not related to textbooks ? Independent of anything under the sun that the school does not object ?
Any advice is appreciated.
For Catholic High, you can check the following links:-
Overview
https://catholichigh.moe.edu.sg/secondary/departments-2/dual-track-programme/
Similarities and Differences between the IP and OP tracks
https://catholichigh.moe.edu.sg/overview-of-the-dual-track/
More info on IP:-
https://catholichigh.moe.edu.sg/secondary/academic-programme/passion-pursuit-independent/
https://catholichigh.moe.edu.sg/secondary/academic-programme/world-readiness-programme/
https://catholichigh.moe.edu.sg/about-eunoia-jc/
All the best! -
Thanks coast,
IP curriculum differs across IP schools. Are you referring to IP in general or Catholic High IP (as this is CHS thread)?
Ans : DS has ~50% chance of applying to CHS. Not trying to put other IP schools down, but it's my personal view that the school has a great IP on paper to compare with O levels. I say on paper because the most we can get to without a physical open house and as an outsider (and similar to other IPs elsewhere), is preferably feedback from those who have the actual experience. Are you in this category ?
With this background, it makes sense to compare the CHS O level and IP.
For Catholic High, you can check the following links:-
Overview
https://catholichigh.moe.edu.sg/seconda ... programme/
Similarities and Differences between the IP and OP tracks
https://catholichigh.moe.edu.sg/overvie ... ual-track/
More info on IP:-
https://catholichigh.moe.edu.sg/seconda ... dependent/
https://catholichigh.moe.edu.sg/seconda ... programme/
https://catholichigh.moe.edu.sg/about-eunoia-jc/
Ans : Thanks for your inputs. I have actually checked the links earlier.
Yes, I can see a broader curriculum for IP as compared to O level for CHS, but being broader and better are two different things. Unless, e.g. there are signs that an IP curriculum develops certain skills not found easily in the O level programs ?
So the info on the websites was not quite what I was trying to find out.
Back to nagging questions though not the only key questions, and along the lines of A levels :
(a) how do IP students and JAE students fare in terms of A levels ?
(b) if 2 students go in to the school with the same T score (ok, psle exams don't measure everything), and complete their JC stints (ok, course combinations etc can be different), how do they compare by points (the 'closest' system to measure academic performance currently) ?
Yes, the questions don't just apply to CHS but to other O level/ IP comparisons as well, but there's slightly more vested interests from my end to understand things at a deeper level for CHS's case.
All the best!
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Option\" post_id=\"2004305\" time=\"1606357912\" user_id=\"185249:
My son is in another IP school so I cannot offer much insight about CHS IP. We went to 3 IP schools’ Open Houses several years ago and curriculum for each is unique.
Ans : DS has ~50% chance of applying to CHS. Not trying to put other IP schools down, but it's my personal view that the school has a great IP on paper to compare with O levels. I say on paper because the most we can get to without a physical open house and as an outsider (and similar to other IPs elsewhere), is preferably feedback from those who have the actual experience. Are you in this category ?
With this background, it makes sense to compare the CHS O level and IP.
Ans : Thanks for your inputs. I have actually checked the links earlier.
Yes, I can see a broader curriculum for IP as compared to O level for CHS, but being broader and better are two different things. Unless, e.g. there are signs that an IP curriculum develops certain skills not found easily in the O level programs ?
So the info on the websites was not quite what I was trying to find out.
Back to nagging questions though not the only key questions, and along the lines of A levels :
(a) how do IP students and JAE students fare in terms of A levels ?
(b) if 2 students go in to the school with the same T score (ok, psle exams don't measure everything), and complete their JC stints (ok, course combinations etc can be different), how do they compare by points (the 'closest' system to measure academic performance currently) ?
Yes, the questions don't just apply to CHS but to other O level/ IP comparisons as well, but there's slightly more vested interests from my end to understand things at a deeper level for CHS's case.
There is no better curriculum, just which one is more suitable for the child. Every year, there will be many students who qualify for IP but choose O Level track/ school.
In a nutshell, IP is more suitable for independent learners while O-Level programme is more structured. There will be more “drilling” in preparation for O-level exams for the latter.
You may want to take a look at slmkhoo’s post. Her DD studied in a IP school and she gave quite a lot of examples what many IP students do.
https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?t=92659&start=340
IP schools do not reveal IP Vs JAE performance but I do not think there is much distinction in their A Level performance. Even within the same IP school, 2 students with similar PSLE results may perform differently in Sec and JC exams.
Below is “IP Vs O Level” thread. Quite many pages so it may take a while to find something useful to you.
https://www.kiasuparents.com/kiasu/forum/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=8667&start=830
Hope it helps. All the best to your boy and once again, congrats to him for doing well in PSLE! -
Hi, I am thinking of putting catholic high O levelbtrack as one of the choices.
DS is not from the affiliated primary school, we have the concern if he would have difficulty in making friends especially with those who already know each other well since primary school time from the affiliated primary school.
Can anyone share your experience? -
sunny\" post_id=\"2005104\" time=\"1606489616\" user_id=\"4620:
It is quite safe to say that majority of Catholic High students are not from its affiliated primary school.
Hi, I am thinking of putting catholic high O levelbtrack as one of the choices.
DS is not from the affiliated primary school, we have the concern if he would have difficulty in making friends especially with those who already know each other well since primary school time from the affiliated primary school.
Can anyone share your experience?
Most boys will get closer to their classmates and CCA mates rather than their primary school mates unless they happen to be in the same Sec 1 class. The classes will split again in Sec 3 due to subject combination.
Congrats to your child for doing well in PSLE and all the best! :rahrah: -
Hi,
If child not doing well in CHS IP, what will the school do ? Retake promotion exams/ transfer to O levels track?
Appreciate all inputs.
Tks -
coast\" post_id=\"2005284\" time=\"1606545341\" user_id=\"38933:
Thank you!
It is quite safe to say that majority of Catholic High students are not from its affiliated primary school.sunny\" post_id=\"2005104\" time=\"1606489616\" user_id=\"4620:
Hi, I am thinking of putting catholic high O levelbtrack as one of the choices.
DS is not from the affiliated primary school, we have the concern if he would have difficulty in making friends especially with those who already know each other well since primary school time from the affiliated primary school.
Can anyone share your experience?
Most boys will get closer to their classmates and CCA mates rather than their primary school mates unless they happen to be in the same Sec 1 class. The classes will split again in Sec 3 due to subject combination.
Congrats to your child for doing well in PSLE and all the best! :rahrah: -
just curious… can anyone tell if there is a chunk of students from CHS who do take up Malay special program (MSP) and proceed to MOELC for lessons? does it clash with CCA/ curriculum/ extra classes?
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