Dsa

[MYE]

Hello everyone, need to ask for advice, what can I do if my daughter’s school is not supportive of gymnasts joining NSG? As in, they do not want to allocate a teacher to be the in charge for the girls during NSG. I do understand that under the parent scheme, only 1 parent 1 child for each category (Senior / Junior), so if there’s more than 1 kid wanting to compete in the NSG for gymnastics, and happens to be in the same category, then it will not be allowed, unless the school has a teacher representative for them.


NSG portfolio is also for DSA purpose… if her school refused to support, this will affect the gymnasts chances of DSA-ing into their school of choice in sec isn’t it?

Thank you in advance.

[floppy]

MYE\" post_id=\"2096465\" time=\"1675264505\" user_id=\"122046:

Hello everyone, need to ask for advice, what can I do if my daughter’s school is not supportive of gymnasts joining NSG? As in, they do not want to allocate a teacher to be the in charge for the girls during NSG. I do understand that under the parent scheme, only 1 parent 1 child for each category (Senior / Junior), so if there’s more than 1 kid wanting to compete in the NSG for gymnastics, and happens to be in the same category, then it will not be allowed, unless the school has a teacher representative for them.

NSG portfolio is also for DSA purpose… if her school refused to support, this will affect the gymnasts chances of DSA-ing into their school of choice in sec isn’t it?

Thank you in advance.

I think you may have been mistaken. It is not 1 parent for 1 child. The NSG rule states only 1 Legal Guardian / parent of 1 of the student athletes can be appointed as School Adult Representative (Parent) (SAR(P)). Hence, if there are 2 kids who are competing, only 1 of the parents / legal guardian will be appointed by the school (assuming the school doesn't want to send in a teacher representative). Refer to Annex E of the https://nsg.moe.edu.sg/Public/rules_and_regulations/8573/%5BGYMNASTICS.

However, the above is on the assumption that the School Principal is willing to endorse and appoint the SAR(P). If the school is not keen to appoint or support, there's nothing much you can do. It would be good if you can speak to the school directly and highlight any past experiences you may have (e.g. volunteer with Singapore Gymnastics, holds a Fundamental Coach Accreditation, etc) if you want to be appointed.

If the school doesn't want to support, you can always take part in the open competitions like the National Championships and Singapore Open. For the purpose of DSA, I think a good performance in these open competitions are worth more than the NSG, as most coaches / teachers are looking for talents in these competitions (bigger pool) rather than the NSG (smaller pool).

[Hendon]

floppy\" post_id=\"2096468\" time=\"1675271283\" user_id=\"97579:

I think you may have been mistaken. It is not 1 parent for 1 child. The NSG rule states only 1 Legal Guardian / parent of 1 of the student athletes can be appointed as School Adult Representative (Parent) (SAR(P)). Hence, if there are 2 kids who are competing, only 1 of the parents / legal guardian will be appointed by the school (assuming the school doesn't want to send in a teacher representative). Refer to Annex E of the https://nsg.moe.edu.sg/Public/rules_and_regulations/8573/%5BGYMNASTICS.

However, the above is on the assumption that the School Principal is willing to endorse and appoint the SAR(P). If the school is not keen to appoint or support, there's nothing much you can do. It would be good if you can speak to the school directly and highlight any past experiences you may have (e.g. volunteer with Singapore Gymnastics, holds a Fundamental Coach Accreditation, etc) if you want to be appointed.

If the school doesn't want to support, you can always take part in the open competitions like the National Championships and Singapore Open. For the purpose of DSA, I think a good performance in these open competitions are worth more than the NSG, as most coaches / teachers are looking for talents in these competitions (bigger pool) rather than the NSG (smaller pool).

Specifically re RG, NSG, National Championships (NC) and Singapore Open (SO) are not the same in my view. Just for practical reasons, any parent should just talk directly to the teacher in charge in the secondary school to clear up any assumptions. Certainly secondary schools have fixed aims, and the student should already be competing in NC or SO regardless of NSG (training outside of the MOE school system).

[floppy]

Hendon\" post_id=\"2096469\" time=\"1675289734\" user_id=\"142376:

Specifically re RG, NSG, National Championships (NC) and Singapore Open (SO) are not the same in my view. Just for practical reasons, any parent should just talk directly to the teacher in charge in the secondary school to clear up any assumptions. Certainly secondary schools have fixed aims, and the student should already be competing in NC or SO regardless of NSG (training outside of the MOE school system).

Yes, agreed. However, as MYE references junior / senior and DSA, I think the kid is competing / wants to compete in the NSG primary section.

[Hendon]

floppy\" post_id=\"2096481\" time=\"1675300417\" user_id=\"97579:

Yes, agreed. However, as MYE references junior / senior and DSA, I think the kid is competing / wants to compete in the NSG primary section.

Yes, but if the purpose is to DSA with NSG participation, the parent should just ask the secondary school teacher. And I would advise to be very specific - because if the student pri school doesn't participate in NSG for the sport anyway, there are already limits to what the student can get out of NSG, for example, only participating in individual categories and perhaps only the lower categories which might not be useful in the first place (hence need to ask the secondary school what are they looking for ... and not assume)

[MYE]

floppy\" post_id=\"2096468\" time=\"1675271283\" user_id=\"97579:

I think you may have been mistaken. It is not 1 parent for 1 child. The NSG rule states only 1 Legal Guardian / parent of 1 of the student athletes can be appointed as School Adult Representative (Parent) (SAR(P)). Hence, if there are 2 kids who are competing, only 1 of the parents / legal guardian will be appointed by the school (assuming the school doesn't want to send in a teacher representative). Refer to Annex E of the https://nsg.moe.edu.sg/Public/rules_and_regulations/8573/%5BGYMNASTICS.

However, the above is on the assumption that the School Principal is willing to endorse and appoint the SAR(P). If the school is not keen to appoint or support, there's nothing much you can do. It would be good if you can speak to the school directly and highlight any past experiences you may have (e.g. volunteer with Singapore Gymnastics, holds a Fundamental Coach Accreditation, etc) if you want to be appointed.

If the school doesn't want to support, you can always take part in the open competitions like the National Championships and Singapore Open. For the purpose of DSA, I think a good performance in these open competitions are worth more than the NSG, as most coaches / teachers are looking for talents in these competitions (bigger pool) rather than the NSG (smaller pool).

Thanks Floppy, thanks for the reassurance, and i tried the link that you have attached, but it seems to have been deleted somehow, but thats ok, i will search for it in the homepage for NSG later and have a read.

My DD has already been taking part in Nat Chams and other competitions for the past 2 years, but was told by her coaches that although NSG is not a must in DSA, it is better to have it, that is why i have this understanding that those kids with added NSG experience will always gain higher chances to get a confirmed offer from the sec sch. And because her current school is not supportive, somehow she will always have a lower chances compared to kids who have NSG..

[MYE]

Hendon\" post_id=\"2096524\" time=\"1675323567\" user_id=\"142376:

Yes, but if the purpose is to DSA with NSG participation, the parent should just ask the secondary school teacher. And I would advise to be very specific - because if the student pri school doesn't participate in NSG for the sport anyway, there are already limits to what the student can get out of NSG, for example, only participating in individual categories and perhaps only the lower categories which might not be useful in the first place (hence need to ask the secondary school what are they looking for ... and not assume)

Hi Hendon, i get what you meant, so its better to check directly with the sec sch side on what is their least criteria (for eg by P6, do they need to achieve a minimum of level 4 or higher etc etc before the sec sch will even consider).

Thanks so much for the advise!

:thankyou:

[Hendon]

MYE\" post_id=\"2096537\" time=\"1675333724\" user_id=\"122046:

Hi Hendon, i get what you meant, so its better to check directly with the sec sch side on what is their least criteria (for eg by P6, do they need to achieve a minimum of level 4 or higher etc etc before the sec sch will even consider).

Thanks so much for the advise!

:thankyou:

Yup. No sense in wasting your girl time and your money and time.

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