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@Brando glad to hear that the medication is working well for your son and the amazing turnaround! Did you managed to obtain accommodations from the GEP program for your son’s twice exceptionality?
We have just received the full neuropsychological report and still trying to figure how we should approach the school and MOE for accommodations for our son’s giftedness and dyslexia…should we just send the entire neuropsychological report to the school principal?
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Hi I have a 2e child currently in GEP. He was also assessed to be highly gifted (>99.9 percentile). This year I got him assessed for ADHD, since he has very poor executive function, loses things frequently, forgets to do or hand up homework etc. Teachers informed me that he was often daydreaming in class and asked me to get him assessed. He was diagnosed as ADHD (primarily inattentive) during June holidays. I have since enrolled him in Educational Therapy and Occupational Therapy, and he also takes medication. The change in him has been phenomenal! He is much happier and confident, and the teachers have all noticed the difference.
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[The quote function is not working! This is in response to jaystormrage.]
It all depends on what “2e” means in your particular child.
There are some disabilities that need more time to work on - will there be enough downtime from schoolwork to do this?
There are social disabilities which may make a child less mature, even if he is intellectually gifted - will this pose a problem relating to GEP kids who are not 2e?
I have a grownup daughter who is not 2e - average intelligence, coupled with ASD and dyspraxia. We found that the need to coach her in physical and social skills took a lot of time and energy, and she really couldn’t spend that much time focused on academic work. But we decided that working on the skills was more important, especially when she was younger. We reckoned that there was no point having her be strong academically but coping badly in daily living and social interactions.
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mamawan\" post_id=\"2134648\" time=\"1717507744\" user_id=\"154836:
I have a 2e child diagnosed at age 7 on the recommendation of her school. She is in the gifted range with SPD and handwriting issue. A good portion of gifted kids do mask and cruise until requirements exceed their abilities, then they crash; so it is best to be pro-active and get them the help they need now. From my understanding, most local school has in-house dyslexia support program, you may want to inquiry with your DS's school. My DD is now 9 so she hasn’t taken the GEP screening tests, so do take what I say about GEP with a pinch of salt. From my research, your DS should enjoy being in the program. The program allows the child the freedom to learn deeply and widely about a topic/subject that the current/normal curriculum doesn’t. Since that’s how a gifted child learns best, he should enjoy being in the program. However do note they don't do curriculum acceleration. Hope this helps.
Many thanks for sharing your experiences mamawan, especially on the mask & cruise tendencies of 2E children. Similar to your DD, my DS is 9 and will be sitting for his GEP screening next month. Currently seeking views from different sources as I'm still unsure if GEP is suitable for 2E children given their learning disability as a comorbidity.
I'm worried that when it comes to MOE curriculum work, DS may lag behind his GEP classmates (despite his high cognitive abilities) thus affecting his confidence from feelings of inadequacy. Just trying to figure out what is best for DS that fully leverages his strengths.
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Worth reading: David Brooks on \"What happens to gifted children\"
https://www.straitstimes.com/opinion/what-happens-to-gifted-children OR
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/13/opinion/gifted-children-intelligence.html
If you don't subscribe to ST or NYT, you can read this online from NLB.
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My son had a 2e GEP classmate. One of my friends’ son also had one in another primary school. They graduated primary school last year. GEB will ask parents to approach them for assistance. They are professional to guide them.
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I have a 2e child diagnosed at age 7 on the recommendation of her school. She is in the gifted range with SPD and handwriting issue.
A good portion of gifted kids do mask and cruise until requirements exceed their abilities, then they crash; so it is best to be pro-active and get them the help they need now. From my understanding, most local school has in-house dyslexia support program, you may want to inquiry with your DS’s school.
My DD is now 9 so she hasn’t taken the GEP screening tests, so do take what I say about GEP with a pinch of salt. From my research, your DS should enjoy being in the program. The program allows the child the freedom to learn deeply and widely about a topic/subject that the current/normal curriculum doesn’t. Since that’s how a gifted child learns best, he should enjoy being in the program. However do note they don’t do curriculum acceleration.
Hope this helps.
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jaystormrage\" post_id=\"2134198\" time=\"1716454661\" user_id=\"160665:
I’m not sure if u have received any PMs from such parents (they may be difficult to find, given the rarity of 2e children).
My DS underwent about 8 hours of assessment with a psychologist and was revealed to be highly gifted (> 99.9 percentile) based on his FSIQ score of 147 on the WISC-V. Simultaneously, he is also diagnosed with dyslexia for which he has been relying on his giftedness to mask over.
Sadly for many 2E children, they are often unidentified as their learning disabilities (LDs) mask over their giftedness, consigning them to a lifetime of underachievement (relative to their giftedness). Copying a couple of links below on 2E children's \"masking\" ability.
Are there any 2E children currently in MOE's GEP program? Is your child able to cope or does your child's LD proves too big of a stumbling block in the GEP program?
https://childmind.org/article/twice-exceptional-kids-both-gifted-and-challenged/
https://www.davidsongifted.org/gifted-blog/twice-exceptional-smart-kids-with-learning-differences/
But may i offer my perspective for your consideration…he is able to mask his dyslexia so far, to what extent? Is he able to cope with the current mainstream P3 curriculum, or has the English teacher raised some concerns so far? I think the main struggle for dyslexics at this age would be reading of long comprehension/oral passages?
If he is struggling bad enough, then it may be better to take him out to a specialised school, maybe international school if private sg schools don’t have the expertise on 2e education.
However, if he isn’t resistant to sitting for the GEP screening and selection test later this year, then let him go and see whether he gets in (note the first round selection is not based on iq, but on P3 syllabus). If he does, then u can ask the GEP teachers during the briefing, regarding your particular concerns. If they don’t seem to be able to handle your child’s needs, then u can go to your backup plan. Let him have his input on whether he wants to switch school and to which one. I’m quite sure he will have his opinion.
As special needs go, i believe dyslexia is relatively “easier” to cope with compared to other types of special needs, provided the school and educators are supportive. And i hope u have connected with DAS to learn more about how u can help your child. All the best!
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jaystormrage\" post_id=\"2134198\" time=\"1716454661\" user_id=\"160665:
Would you mind sharing, since your child has an assessment and his LD and gift are identified, are there any strategies recommended that he can pick up that can be applied in school, that play to his strength and compensate his dyslexia?
My DS underwent about 8 hours of assessment with a psychologist and was revealed to be highly gifted (> 99.9 percentile) based on his FSIQ score of 147 on the WISC-V. Simultaneously, he is also diagnosed with dyslexia for which he has been relying on his giftedness to mask over.
Sadly for many 2E children, they are often unidentified as their learning disabilities (LDs) mask over their giftedness, consigning them to a lifetime of underachievement (relative to their giftedness). Copying a couple of links below on 2E children's \"masking\" ability.
Are there any 2E children currently in MOE's GEP program? Is your child able to cope or does your child's LD proves too big of a stumbling block in the GEP program?
https://childmind.org/article/twice-exceptional-kids-both-gifted-and-challenged/
https://www.davidsongifted.org/gifted-blog/twice-exceptional-smart-kids-with-learning-differences/
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My DS underwent about 8 hours of assessment with a psychologist and was revealed to be highly gifted (> 99.9 percentile) based on his FSIQ score of 147 on the WISC-V. Simultaneously, he is also diagnosed with dyslexia for which he has been relying on his giftedness to mask over.
Sadly for many 2E children, they are often unidentified as their learning disabilities (LDs) mask over their giftedness, consigning them to a lifetime of underachievement (relative to their giftedness). Copying a couple of links below on 2E children's \"masking\" ability.
Are there any 2E children currently in MOE's GEP program? Is your child able to cope or does your child's LD proves too big of a stumbling block in the GEP program?
https://childmind.org/article/twice-exceptional-kids-both-gifted-and-challenged/
https://www.davidsongifted.org/gifted-blog/twice-exceptional-smart-kids-with-learning-differences/