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ning78\" post_id=\"2086277\" time=\"1666258377\" user_id=\"59547:
Just want to add that nowadays, no student takes triple Science at JC because of the \"contrasting subject\" requirement.
Hi Mummies,
Anyone can advise for Sec 2 streaming if choose Triple Science instead of Double Science, considered risky as only got 1 combined humanities in Triple Science. This will affect the score for L1R5 right? Hence, to consider take Double Science instead? Thanks. -
Thanks All for the advice.
I have told my girl about the risk of choosing Triple Science but she prefers Triple Science cos her reason is she do not want to take double Humanities. Although she is good in memorise as can score for History and Geography but she prefer History.
Feel double science more safer with 2 Humanities as back up too for the sake of scoring in L1R5. How to persuade her to change mind? -
ning78\" post_id=\"2086286\" time=\"1666264356\" user_id=\"59547:
You can tell her my personal experience: excel in sciences but didnt like humanities. I chose triple science + pure geog (no SS during my days). Ended up B3 for the geog. Missed out on RJC by 1 point.
Thanks All for the advice.
I have told my girl about the risk of choosing Triple Science but she prefers Triple Science cos her reason is she do not want to take double Humanities. Although she is good in memorise as can score for History and Geography but she prefer History.
Feel double science more safer with 2 Humanities as back up too for the sake of scoring in L1R5. How to persuade her to change mind? -
ning78\" post_id=\"2086276\" time=\"1666258365\" user_id=\"59547:
I actually think it depends on what the student wants.
Hi Mummies,
Anyone can advise for Sec 2 streaming if choose Triple Science instead of Double Science, considered risky as only got 1 combined humanities in Triple Science. This will affect the score for L1R5 right? Hence, to consider take Double Science instead? Thanks.
One can end up with the same grade for both humanities subjects and if the student is not inclined, he may end up spending a lot more time for humanities and neglect the science (which he may be good at in sec 2, but not top student standard which means still need to put in effort)
What I am saying is this. If you take Science 1 and Science 2 and Hu 1 and Hu 2. You dont like Hu, and then you may end up with Hu 1 b4, Hu 2 also b4, and because you spent a lot more time managing your Hu, in the end you get Sc 1 A2 and Sc 2 b3. And your L1R5 becomes EL b3, EM a1, Sc a2, Hu b4, (AM b3, sc b3, MT b3, take any 2).
Vs if you have taken 3 Science and 1 Humanities, maybe you end up with a2, a2, b3 for the 3 Sc, and then b4 for Hu. And your L1R5 becomes EL b3, EM a1, Sc a2, Hu b4, (AM b3, sc a2, MT b3, take the a2 and b3)
Of course there can be all kinds of possibilities, what I am trying to say is, having another humanities may not always make it safer. You need to evaluate the 3rd science with the 2nd humanities subject. If no preference and equal flair in both the 3rd sc and the 2nd humanities, then take 2 humanities. If I even have problems deciding on your 2nd humanities, then I am definitely better off with just one. Bearing in mind combined humanities is already like 2 subjects.
This is the same as last time A levels, you only need 3 A level subjects, some take 4 because they like it, but some take 4 with the idea that they can pick the best 3 out of the 4, but then end up with A B C C . If he has taken 3 and have the mindset of “i need to use all 3”, he might end up with a b b.
It is anyone’s guess :siam:
We should respect the student’s choice. -
Just throwing in another point for consideration. Using a “hedge” of “2 choose 1” compulsory subject in the L1R5 allows leeway for what-if the exam paper happens to be a killer paper that year (for that subject).
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MerlionInGermany\" post_id=\"2086293\" time=\"1666270008\" user_id=\"2964:
Good reply. I favour 2 Science plus 2 Humanities IF the student has no preference.
I actually think it depends on what the student wants.
One can end up with the same grade for both humanities subjects and if the student is not inclined, he may end up spending a lot more time for humanities and neglect the science (which he may be good at in sec 2, but not top student standard which means still need to put in effort)
What I am saying is this. If you take Science 1 and Science 2 and Hu 1 and Hu 2. You dont like Hu, and then you may end up with Hu 1 b4, Hu 2 also b4, and because you spent a lot more time managing your Hu, in the end you get Sc 1 A2 and Sc 2 b3. And your L1R5 becomes EL b3, EM a1, Sc a2, Hu b4, (AM b3, sc b3, MT b3, take any 2).
Vs if you have taken 3 Science and 1 Humanities, maybe you end up with a2, a2, b3 for the 3 Sc, and then b4 for Hu. And your L1R5 becomes EL b3, EM a1, Sc a2, Hu b4, (AM b3, sc a2, MT b3, take the a2 and b3)
Of course there can be all kinds of possibilities, what I am trying to say is, having another humanities may not always make it safer. You need to evaluate the 3rd science with the 2nd humanities subject. If no preference and equal flair in both the 3rd sc and the 2nd humanities, then take 2 humanities. If I even have problems deciding on your 2nd humanities, then I am definitely better off with just one. Bearing in mind combined humanities is already like 2 subjects.
This is the same as last time A levels, you only need 3 A level subjects, some take 4 because they like it, but some take 4 with the idea that they can pick the best 3 out of the 4, but then end up with A B C C . If he has taken 3 and have the mindset of “i need to use all 3”, he might end up with a b b.
It is anyone’s guess :siam:
We should respect the student’s choice.
I think there are many valid reasons to take Triple Science. Doing so because everyone else is doing it or that's supposedly what smart people do aren't necessarily in that category. Perhaps the replies pushing a move away from 3x Science should be qualified with the above. In the end, interests and self-motivation trump all.
Nevertheless, I have thought it may be beneficial if a student can have one (full) humanities subject to stick with in upper sec and JC. Not that the content is cumulative but that you see where to improve, work on it etc. vs jumping around between the choices. But this is just a guess, as I don't know how it works in practice (and I'm sure some kids can pickup whatever in JC and do OK). Regardless, I guess Econ will be the default for many that didn't like whatever they took in upper sec. -
zac's mum\" post_id=\"2086295\" time=\"1666270591\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2086295 time=1666270591 user_id=53606]
This speaks to me!! I took Geog and E Lit for O levels. Did Double Science, Double Maths, Double Humanities, English, Chinese, HCL + Music. I was not GEP, so could not take triple science without giving up Music.
Just throwing in another point for consideration. Using a “hedge” of “2 choose 1” compulsory subject in the L1R5 allows leeway for what-if the exam paper happens to be a killer paper that year (for that subject).[/quote]
For Prelims, I got a C6 for E Lit, and told my teacher I will not sit for the O levels. I disliked the Shakespeare Lit Text immensely - A Midsummer Night's Dream. It was such an unusual text that during the two years which had this as the Shakespeare text, RI opted NOT to teach this and picked another old English text (I can't recall which book, but not Chaucer.)
During our time, prelims actually mattered, cos we used prelims to get into JC for 1st three months.
Then the Geog exams came and I was like ugh - did not exactly go smoothly.
Had a few days to relook at Lit, and I went for the Lit exams lol!
Fortunately, it all worked out
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ning78\" post_id=\"2086286\" time=\"1666264356\" user_id=\"59547:
Ask her if she want to do the JC or the poly route?
Thanks All for the advice.
I have told my girl about the risk of choosing Triple Science but she prefers Triple Science cos her reason is she do not want to take double Humanities. Although she is good in memorise as can score for History and Geography but she prefer History.
Feel double science more safer with 2 Humanities as back up too for the sake of scoring in L1R5. How to persuade her to change mind?
.. If poly, she a self-directed learner, loves more hands-on work, has ambitions, her interests are clearly in biomedical or sciences? Perhaps you can guide her to evaluate her own decision. She wouldn’t need humanities for poly admission. And these days poly also leads to university.
However, if she is targeting a JC, you would need to guide her and expressively tell her the benefits of having a 2nd humanities. In the event that she finds Geography too hard to score, she has literature/history to fall back on. Upper sec humanities can be quite different from lower sec. She will have a better idea at end of sec 3. Having a 2nd humanities also helps to hedge against certain years where there is killer exam paper for 1 of the 2 humanities subject.
Hope this helps! All the best. -
zac's mum\" post_id=\"2086295\" time=\"1666270591\" user_id=\"53606:[quote=\"zac's mum\" post_id=2086295 time=1666270591 user_id=53606]
Valid and good point!
Just throwing in another point for consideration. Using a “hedge” of “2 choose 1” compulsory subject in the L1R5 allows leeway for what-if the exam paper happens to be a killer paper that year (for that subject).[/quote] -
ning78\" post_id=\"2086286\" time=\"1666264356\" user_id=\"59547:
Ask her to talk to her seniors and hear their advice and experiences too.
Thanks All for the advice.
I have told my girl about the risk of choosing Triple Science but she prefers Triple Science cos her reason is she do not want to take double Humanities. Although she is good in memorise as can score for History and Geography but she prefer History.
Feel double science more safer with 2 Humanities as back up too for the sake of scoring in L1R5. How to persuade her to change mind?
If she does Triple Science + Double Maths, in the L1R5 computation for JC, maximum can only take 4 out of these 5 since still need to have L1 and 1 Humanities.
However with Double Science + Double Humanities, in the event that she does very well for both Humanities, she can actually use both in the L1R5 computation.
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