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For RI, HCI, what is the % of students doing 4H2? Is it like majority (80-90%) of the cohort?
I know there are internal requirement for year 4 results for students to be able to do 4H2 when the go RI or HCI. How about those who enter through JAE posting? What is the requirement to do 4 H2 when they enter RI or HCI?
Thanks for sharing -
newbieks\" post_id=\"2015333\" time=\"1613793695\" user_id=\"178749:
Yes there is internal requirements for nygh (i think same for hci) to do 4H2=min msg2.5. For JAE, since they enter with raw 6-8 almost all subjects are distinction so easily msg below 2 so I don't there are any requirements.
For RI, HCI, what is the % of students doing 4H2? Is it like majority (80-90%) of the cohort?
I know there are internal requirement for year 4 results for students to be able to do 4H2 when the go RI or HCI. How about those who enter through JAE posting? What is the requirement to do 4 H2 when they enter RI or HCI?
Thanks for sharing -
Following from afar, but I generally agree with the comments that all of these numbers are so close to each other that your child’s performance is most important. You cannot apply to university with the cohort’s average score! Moreover, you need to find the JC that has the subject combinations you want.
That being said, I do wonder whether:
a) JAE COP and perceived A Level performance will ever flow back to the S1 posting exercise?
b) Does the L1R5 score keep the O-Level kids sharp in the "contrasting" subject? For IP, it may be easy to let the difficult/unliked subject slide a bit. You can take a lower grade in one or two subjects and focus on what you like to do (including non-academic) while still clearing promotion criteria. But if the weaker subject is contrasting, this will show up more in the A Level results (cannot avoid it). In comparison, those shooting for 6 points (gross) were forced to master at least one subject in each of the science and arts stream. Even you didn’t score 6 points (gross), the mindset is a bit different and you may have been just a few points away. Again, we are talking minor differences here but if all of the top O-Level kids are focused on three schools on the margin I can see how it may make a difference. -
phtthp\" post_id=\"2015324\" time=\"1613788646\" user_id=\"35251:
JC Performance:
Let's examine the figures (above), in greater detail.Joashhyy\" post_id=\"2015231\" time=\"1613718622\" user_id=\"191467:
Do update yourself.
In this new norm, know the 3As
From sharing by J3 students in another forum ( Mean or Medium)
RI mean 84.5
HCI mean 85
Ny Medium 86
Vjc Medium 85
Ejc Medium 85
Dhs mean 80.4
Tjc mean 81.
Acjc mean 79.9
Since Nanyang Junior College can only supply their \"Median\" figure, but not their \"Mean\",
going by their \"Median\" (Not \"Medium\") statistics which Joashhyy had supplied above,
is it right or wrong (stating reasons) for one to conclude that,
for 2020 A-level batch (born 2002) :
1)
Nanyang JC
(Non-IP, entirely purely JAE students admitted ) cohort with her Median at 86
actually performed better
than these two IP-JCs cohort from (Eunoia and Victoria) JC, both with the same Median, 85 ?
2)
Eunoia JC is actually on par now, with Victoria JC, both with the same Median 85 ?
3) Temasek JC, with her mean 81,
- performed better than Dunman High, with mean 80.4, and
- TJC also performed better than ACJC, with mean 79.9 ?
(above questions are posed, based on the assumption that statistics above provided by Joashhyy, are Accurate)
1) HCI
2) RI
3) NYJC
4) EJC
4) VJC
6) NJC ( Median 83 )
7) TJC
DHS
9) ACJC
10) RVHS
Top 5 JCs:
HCI
RI
NYJC
EJC, VJC -
Joashhyy\" post_id=\"2015403\" time=\"1613825202\" user_id=\"191467:
Not sure why year after year, these people will come and compare NYJC with the other JCs? Do you guys have an inferiority complex so that by doing this you feel that you are better than others?
JC Performance:
1) HCI
2) RI
3) NYJC
4) EJC
4) VJC
6) NJC ( Median 83 )
7) TJC DHS
9) ACJC
10) RVHS
Top 5 JCs:
HCI
RI
NYJC
EJC, VJC
Your analysis basing on just UAS mean/median rank points is so simplistic. To properly gauged a JC's performance, you would also have to consider other statistics ( which most of the top JCs share except NYJC who remain very secretive on this )
eg
Number of students that got perfect score of 90
Number of students that got A's in each subject
Number of students doing 4H2
Number of students doing H3
Number of students getting 9, 8 and 7 distinctions
Number of students having scholarshops e.g
VJC has a total 5 President scholars. NYJC =0 (even though NYJC has a much longer history than VJC)
NYJC has only 6 PSC scholars in its 40+ years of existence (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanyang_Junior_College) . EJC in her first year has already 3 PSC scholars. That's half of NYJC entire 40 years quota.
I can go on and on...but you should get the point. -
JC Rankings in Singapore based on release of A level results in Year 2021)
Ranking is based on release of results reflected in the official website of schools.
For the benefit of parents or students who would prefer to do comparison based on official results ( with verification in the respective school websites), the information displayed below would be the most accurate to gauge the standard of various JCs. Unless there are official results released in the school website, otherwise i would exclude JCs that did not release any info in their respective website. Thank you for understanding
JC Rankings (Result release in Year 2021
1) Hwa Chong Institution (Mean 85, 25% score UAS 90 RP) RP stands for Rank Points, full score is 90
2) Raffles Junior College (Mean 84.5, 28% score UAS 90 RP)
3) Victoria Junior College (Median 85, 15% score UAS 90 RP, 40% > 87.5 RP)
4) Eunoia Junior College (Median 85, 13% score UAS 90 RP, 50% > 85 RP )
5) Dunman High (Median 83, 40% = or > 85 RP)
6)National Junior College (Median 83, 40% = or > 85 RP)
7)River Valley High ( no indication of median, 30% = or > 85 RP)
(For more detailed information, please visit the respective school websites) One point to note though is traditionally, people will look at mean or median score as a gauge, but it would be good to look at other factors like how the schools fare for General Paper and Project work as this will affect the overall rank points (RP) of students for admission to unis. Another interesting point to note is the percentage of students in the school scoring perfect UAS of 90 RP, Let's celebrate their efforts including those schools which didn't officially released their results. Well done to all students!
JCs with no information release in their respective school website
ACJC
CJC
TJC
NYJC
SAJC
Anderson Serangoon JC
Tampines Meridien JC
Jurong Pioneer JC
Millennia Institute -
eaglewing95\" post_id=\"2015457\" time=\"1613889696\" user_id=\"191495:
Nyjc Median 86 was shared Live by Principal, Mr Low on its FB, dated 21th.
JC Rankings in Singapore based on release of A level results in Year 2021)
Ranking is based on release of results reflected in the official website of schools.
For the benefit of parents or students who would prefer to do comparison based on official results ( with verification in the respective school websites), the information displayed below would be the most accurate to gauge the standard of various JCs. Unless there are official results released in the school website, otherwise i would exclude JCs that did not release any info in their respective website. Thank you for understanding
JC Rankings (Result release in Year 2021
1) Hwa Chong Institution (Mean 85, 25% score UAS 90 RP)
2) Raffles Junior College (Mean 84.5, 28% score UAS 90 RP)
3) Victoria Junior College (Median 85, 15% score UAS 90 RP, 40% > 87.5 RP)
4) Eunoia Junior College (Median 85, 13% score UAS 90 RP, 50% > 85 RP )
5) Dunman High (Median 83, 40% = or > 85 RP)
6)National Junior College (Median 83, 40% = or > 85 RP)
7)River Valley High ( no indication of median, 30% = or > 85 RP)
(For more detailed information, please visit the respective school websites) One point to note though is traditionally, people will look at mean or median score as a gauge, but it would be good to look at other factors like how the schools fare for General Paper and Project work as this will affect the overall rank points (RP) of students for admission to unis. Let's celebrate their efforts including those schools which didn't officially released their results. Well done to all students!
JCs with no information release in their respective school website
ACJC
CJC
TJC
NYJC
SAJC
Anderson Serangoon JC
Tampines Meridien JC
Jurong Pioneer JC
Millennia Institute
Official news released by JCs on web site may not display the most accurate to gauge the standard of various JCs too.
Some JCs underperformed.
We should do our research thoroughly.
Goggle. -
Thanks Joashhyy, thanks for info.
Perhaps for the next A level results, the school might want to publish the official results with more detailed information into the school website. Congrats to all A Level students for their effort! -
stetan\" post_id=\"2015454\" time=\"1613885560\" user_id=\"3358:
Whos having inferiority complex?
Not sure why year after year, these people will come and compare NYJC with the other JCs? Do you guys have an inferiority complex so that by doing this you feel that you are better than others?Joashhyy\" post_id=\"2015403\" time=\"1613825202\" user_id=\"191467:
JC Performance:
1) HCI
2) RI
3) NYJC
4) EJC
4) VJC
6) NJC ( Median 83 )
7) TJC DHS
9) ACJC
10) RVHS
Top 5 JCs:
HCI
RI
NYJC
EJC, VJC
Your analysis basing on just UAS mean/median rank points is so simplistic. To properly gauged a JC's performance, you would also have to consider other statistics ( which most of the top JCs share except NYJC who remain very secretive on this )
eg
Number of students that got perfect score of 90
Number of students that got A's in each subject
Number of students doing 4H2
Number of students doing H3
Number of students getting 9, 8 and 7 distinctions
Number of students having scholarshops e.g
VJC has a total 5 President scholars. NYJC =0 (even though NYJC has a much longer history than VJC)
NYJC has only 6 PSC scholars in its 40+ years of existence (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanyang_Junior_College) . EJC in her first year has already 3 PSC scholars. That's half of NYJC entire 40 years quota.
I can go on and on...but you should get the point.
Mean or Median is used to compare JCs standard all these while.
Nyjc did well and now started this scholarship issue and what other statistics?
Prior, dont see having these factors to consider. -
Joashhyy\" post_id=\"2015489\" time=\"1613916182\" user_id=\"191467:
The median UAS is one measure of a JC’s performance but so is the number of scholarship holders. Why hype on one measure and not bother to mention the other?
Whos having inferiority complex?stetan\" post_id=\"2015454\" time=\"1613885560\" user_id=\"3358:
Not sure why year after year, these people will come and compare NYJC with the other JCs? Do you guys have an inferiority complex so that by doing this you feel that you are better than others?
Your analysis basing on just UAS mean/median rank points is so simplistic. To properly gauged a JC's performance, you would also have to consider other statistics ( which most of the top JCs share except NYJC who remain very secretive on this )
eg
Number of students that got perfect score of 90
Number of students that got A's in each subject
Number of students doing 4H2
Number of students doing H3
Number of students getting 9, 8 and 7 distinctions
Number of students having scholarshops e.g
VJC has a total 5 President scholars. NYJC =0 (even though NYJC has a much longer history than VJC)
NYJC has only 6 PSC scholars in its 40+ years of existence (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanyang_Junior_College) . EJC in her first year has already 3 PSC scholars. That's half of NYJC entire 40 years quota.
I can go on and on...but you should get the point.
Mean or Median is used to compare JCs standard all these while.
Nyjc did well and now started this scholarship issue and what other statistics?
Prior, dont see having these factors to consider.
It could also explain the small number of scholars NYJC had produced over the decades. Stetan posted good questions, so what is the number of NY students who took 4H2 and H3 subjects etc.?
NYJC is not stretching the potential of her students to the fullest despite enrolling top O level students.
If RI or HCI follows NYJC style of getting the majority of their students to focus only on 3H2 subjects, would they still be considered the top JCs? No, because they know that developing their good students’ potential is also important.
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