Networking Group - JCs General

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00skyblue00\" post_id=\"2121097\" time=\"1697777246\" user_id=\"143605:

Thank you all for sharing your views and experiences

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1)
for Literature (A level) :-

some Junior Colleges do impose a minimum, \"B3\" grade pre-requiste in your English (O level), while other JCs do not impose. So, pls google the individual JC, first.

2) for A-level (History + Geography), Junior Colleges do not impose any pre requistes.

However,

If u were to jump in straight without any background at all into A-level ( History or Geography ), bear in mind that -

on your own effort, u will have to buck up quickly, in terms of acquiring critical thinking, analysis skills for say, example, on subject History (Humanities), if suppose, History happen to be that A level subject u have decided to choose.

Why ?

Because

Those students who had gone through past two years of intensive O level (History / Geography) learning -

be it they have taken
Pure (History / Geography)

OR

Elective (History / Geography), at O level -

would have already gone through past two years of (Sec 3 and Sec 4), having acquired intensive critical thinking analysis skills, on historical events that had taken place

or

In Geographical topics / themes that had been taught.

In contrast, u had missed out these entire set of training skills, for past 2 years. Hence, u really need to buck up. Will be tough in the beginning, as u go up the learning curve, since your foundation has not been built earlier. Because u need TIME, to BUILD UP your critical thinking skills. Is not an overnight thing, that one can master straight away, esp. For Humanities subjects.

If this is what you are mentally prepared for, to take up the challenge,
then

by all means, can choose A level (History or Geog) Humanities.

[bbbay]

Just verified that both RI and HCI do not mandate all J1 students, even those qualified to, to take 4 H2 subjects in J1.

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bbbay\" post_id=\"2121111\" time=\"1697790779\" user_id=\"175278:

Just verified that both RI and HCI do not mandate all J1 students, even those qualified to, to take 4 H2 subjects in J1.

For HCI, taking 4H2 is not a given for everyone. For IP students, you need to meet a certain GPA at Sec 4, to read 4H2s at JC1. I'm not sure what the criteria is for JAE students.

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doodbug\" post_id=\"2121112\" time=\"1697790952\" user_id=\"13281:

For HCI, taking 4H2 is not a given for everyone. For IP students, you need to meet a certain GPA at Sec 4, to read 4H2s at JC1. I'm not sure what the criteria is for JAE students.

Given the JAEs are L1R5 6 - 8 gross, I would think they are all eligible for 4H2 (those marks would easily clear the MSG requirements, unless one wants to start bickering about the difference in papers, not saying this is or isn't true. I guess there are some differences in the L1R5 vs. the S4 MSG calcs, but more or less the kids entering from O Level are doing very well). I believe the only constraint is that they cannot cross streams from where they entered.

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doodbug\" post_id=\"2121112\" time=\"1697790952\" user_id=\"13281:

For HCI, taking 4H2 is not a given for everyone. For IP students, you need to meet a certain GPA at Sec 4, to read 4H2s at JC1. I'm not sure what the criteria is for JAE students.

There will always be exceptions, and it will be very small number of cases. What I am saying next is in general. I have this belief students that make it into HCI/RI through PSLE result, statistically speaking, would continue to do well enough to be able take on the challenge in attempting 4 H2 subjects in J1(If they chose not to is another matter). Because they are around the top 3% of the cohort. Let factor in some slip up in performance in the 4 years in secondary. in general , these students performance should still be within the top 10% level of the cohort. I think the GPA requirement at Sec 4 still should not be out of reach with a the top 10% performance. So i think large majority of these HCI/RI students (thru PSLE) could qualify for 4 H2. I am not a statistician or an educator. But to me it is reasonable to assume qualify to attempt 4 H2 in J1 is a norm and not an exception for majority of HCI/RI students. Unless the Sec 4 GPA is set to say a top 6 % standard, to maintain a very high standard to attempt 4 H2 and exclude those students with more than slight slip up after their good PSLE performance

[00skyblue00]

Attended sg autonomous universities talk last night. It was mentioned, there is no prerequisite for all courses at SMU. Only maths is the prerequisite at NUS specific sci based course.


Also, no quota for any pathway A levels, IB and Poly.

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doodbug\" post_id=\"2120981\" time=\"1697683508\" user_id=\"13281:

As far as I am aware, there is no prerequisite requirement to have done upper Sec Literature or History, to read the corresponding subjects at H2 level. Subjects like China Studies in English, also do not have a prerequisite. Neither does Computing, though some schools administer an entry test. I am not sure about Geog - do check with the JC involved? I would be surprised if upper Secondary Geog is a prerequisite. To do Geog at NUS has no prerequisites at all, not even secondary school Geog.

Thanks. So happen that after sch briefing on the subjects, my kid decided to switch to elective history. Both her Geo and History are quite on par in lower sec, but apparently the history topics taught in upp sec seem to be more interesting to her.

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SG_KP1\" post_id=\"2121099\" time=\"1697778613\" user_id=\"188234:

One example is below. Entering via JAE should be able to take H2 E Lit, Geo, History, or Econ.

https://admindev.hci.edu.sg/uploads/A_Level_Subjects_info_for_2023_JC_1_final_16_Sep22_c094b530ad.pdf

Thank you.

[00skyblue00]

It seems like the requirements for taking subj at different levels are more to do with students aptitude and appetite. Glad to know that students do have options of either H1 or H2 to choose from for contrasting subj, without prerequisite except for Math. Will have to find out more at individual JC websites.


The student I personally know in RI year 5 was encouraged to take 4H2. But she is likely to drop one to H1.

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bbbay\" post_id=\"2121126\" time=\"1697803673\" user_id=\"175278:

There will always be exceptions, and it will be very small number of cases. What I am saying next is in general. I have this belief students that make it into HCI/RI through PSLE result, statistically speaking, would continue to do well enough to be able take on the challenge in attempting 4 H2 subjects in J1(If they chose not to is another matter). Because they are around the top 3% of the cohort. Let factor in some slip up in performance in the 4 years in secondary. in general , these students performance should still be within the top 10% level of the cohort. I think the GPA requirement at Sec 4 still should not be out of reach with a the top 10% performance. So i think large majority of these HCI/RI students (thru PSLE) could qualify for 4 H2. I am not a statistician or an educator. But to me it is reasonable to assume qualify to attempt 4 H2 in J1 is a norm and not an exception for majority of HCI/RI students. Unless the Sec 4 GPA is set to say a top 6 % standard, to maintain a very high standard to attempt 4 H2 and exclude those students with more than slight slip up after their good PSLE performance

Majority of students in HCI will qualify for 4 H2s - the criteria is not unreasonably set.