Chung Cheng High (Main)
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Tku for your very detailed and informative post!
I am a bit confused. Don't CCHS students get a 2 point affiliation to NYJC? So w CCA and HCL do they get 6 points off?
Another question - do the kids there converse mainly in English or Chinese?
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1)mamamiya\" post_id=\"2004521\" time=\"1606383112\" user_id=\"6056:
Hi all,
My child has a score of 248, HC +2.
We are torn between AHS and CCH. We stay in Simei, so it takes us 25 mins to get to AHS but an hour to CCH.
May I know what’s the estimate % of CCH students who went on to NYJC? The affliation is very attractive to us. But at the same time, distance and travelling time are a bit discouraging. Can experienced parents in CCH share more information regarding the school pls? Thanks.
If you choose Anglican High (SAP school), is a ditect straight-forward affliation to St Andrew Junior College, in that there is already an affliated A-level JC awaiting you. The path lying ahead of you, is a smooth path
2)
But,
if you choose Chung Cheng High (Main), can be a bumpy rough ride, for some.
What was last year (2019 O-level batch) Cut-off-point into Nanyang Junior College ?
for Science stream : it was 6
from Moe website (source)
https://sis.moe.gov.sg/SchoolDetails.aspx?schoolCode=0805
Under affliation,
this means that maximum,
your L1R5 cannot exceed 10 points, assuming that
you have managed to clear your Higher Chinese successfully, by scoring either an (A1 or A2 or B3) in your Sec 3 O-level (Standard Chinese) bu-hua.
Why 10 points (L1R5) ?
because
a) 2 discount points, off your clearance of O-level (Higher Chinese)
b) 2 discount points, off your clearance in Cca points
However,
bear in mind that not every Sec 4 student will end up with two Cca points. For some, they only scored 1 miserable Cca point.
So, for these students with 1 Cca point, instead of
(10 minus 4 discount points),
they ended up with
(10 minus 3) instead.
So, can these CCH (Main) students go back to their affliated NYJC ?
No
Not for Science stream,
because armed with 7 points, they failed to meet NYJC Science stream Cut-off-point (at 6 points)
Maybe can still go NYJC (Arts stream) with 7 points ?
Yes, cut off was 7, for Arts stream
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Another scenario, to take note of
What happen,
if Sec 3 students scored
(B4 or C5 or C6) in their Sec 3 (O-level Standard Chinese (bu-hua) National exam ?
CCH (Main) school said
No, next year Sec 4,
you got to repeat & re-sit For your O-level bu-hua one more time. Hopefully, you will score a better grade this time round since given a second chance, to help you in your L1R5 admission into JC ...
in case your O-level bu-hua subject turn out to become one of the core subjects used to compute your L1R5, so you need to do well in your bu-hua.
However, they will be barred from taking O-level (Higher Chinese) exam, because they are going to re-take O-level (Standard Chinese).
So, what happen?
Did this group of (B4 / C5 / C6) bu-hua students managed to clear their HCL hurdle obstacle ?
No, they could not
So, they are unable to get 2 discount points off HCL clearance
But,
if they still want to go back to their Affliated NYJC, because they love Nanyang JC so much, what must they score now, in order to go back ?
need 8 points !
No longer just need 10 points
Why 8 ?
because
(8 minus 2 points for Cca clearance equal 6, for NYJC (Science stream )
Is it hard (difficult) or easy, to clinche 8 points in your L1R5 ?
(only yourself, can answer)
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may we ask, is your P6 son or daughter strong in Higher Chinese ?
If No,
would suggest that you choose Anglican High instead, because truth be told, Psle HCL is easy, but Secondary school HCL is tough.
If come here,
And
if your Chinese isn't strong,
unfortunately end up score a
(B4 / C 5 / C6) in O-level bu-hua, barred from taking O-level ( Higher Chinese), you run the risk of missing the precious, valuable 2 discount points clearance in your L1R5, cannot go back to beloved affliated NYJC.
Furthermore,
you also mentioned that Anglican High is very near your house. Isn't this convenient ? Every morning, no need to wake up so early go to school ?
Besides,
does Anglican High, also another SAP school, impose the same identical cornering restriction on this O-level (bu-hua) minimum must score a B3 clearance, before let you sit for O-level (gao-hua) ?
Please go and confirm with Anglican High Chinese Head-of-department. If the answer is No, is obvious, which school to go for.
In stark contrast,
if your child's Chinese is very strong & powerful, by all means, come to Chung Cheng High (Main), since clearing bu-hua (B3 minimum) won't be a stumbling block nor hurdle
\"Sun zi bin fa \" teach us this -
know yourself well.
Know your strength,
Know your weakness -
Bitzy\" post_id=\"2005225\" time=\"1606533246\" user_id=\"189812:
Every student is only allowed maximum deduction of four (4) bonus points. With affiliation and HMT, you have the three (3) options to go about obtaining the four bonus points, unless you apply CLEP (which allows you to have 6 points off). You can take your time to understand about CLEP in details later but for now, just know that you can only have maximum four bonus points.
I am a bit confused. Don't CCHS students get a 2 point affiliation to NYJC? So w CCA and HCL do they get 6 points off?Bitzy\" post_id=\"2005225\" time=\"1606533246\" user_id=\"189812:
Most students speak in English. However, there are quite a number of scholars from China so these students naturally speak Mandarin.Another question - do the kids there converse mainly in English or Chinese?
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Hi is CCHM a very Chinese school? My kid did HCL in primary and don’t really like it and barely just passed it. Am worried that he’ll struggle with too Chinese culture but I really like the academic led approach for this school. Any advise?
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moon03\" post_id=\"2005300\" time=\"1606549075\" user_id=\"124558:
What do you mean by \"a very Chinese school\"? CCHMS is a SAP school, hence activities will be geared towards inculcating Chinese culture in the students such as tea appreciation, calligraphy, etc. However, knowing students nowadays, you will expect them to speak English more than Mandarin in school.
Hi is CCHM a very Chinese school? My kid did HCL in primary and don't really like it and barely just passed it. Am worried that he'll struggle with too Chinese culture but I really like the academic led approach for this school. Any advise?
If he barely passed HCL and is not receptive to the language, it's better not to apply with CCHMS since HCL is compulsory. -
qms\" post_id=\"2005302\" time=\"1606549941\" user_id=\"5718:
Thanks for the quick advise. He's also just below COP so am worried he'll struggle as most students will be 250 range. I just attended AHS and MSH which seems more all rounder and HCL is optional but doesn't seem as academic as CCHM. Any advise?
What do you mean by \"a very Chinese school\"? CCHMS is a SAP school, hence activities will be geared towards inculcating Chinese culture in the students such as tea appreciation, calligraphy, etc. However, knowing students nowadays, you will expect them to speak English more than Mandarin in school.moon03\" post_id=\"2005300\" time=\"1606549075\" user_id=\"124558:
Hi is CCHM a very Chinese school? My kid did HCL in primary and don't really like it and barely just passed it. Am worried that he'll struggle with too Chinese culture but I really like the academic led approach for this school. Any advise?
If he barely passed HCL and is not receptive to the language, it's better not to apply with CCHMS since HCL is compulsory. -
moon03\" post_id=\"2005304\" time=\"1606550238\" user_id=\"124558:
It doesn't matter whether he enters the school with high or low score. Once you are in the school, you are in good hands. The teachers there are helpful and some are willing to go the extra mile to help students. Of course, like in every school, it depends on your luck what type of teachers you get.
Thanks for the quick advise. He's also just below COP so am worried he'll struggle as most students will be 250 range.moon03\" post_id=\"2005304\" time=\"1606550238\" user_id=\"124558:
What is your main concern?I just attended AHS and MSH which seems more all rounder and HCL is optional but doesn't seem as academic as CCHM. Any advise?
1. That your son will struggle with Chinese? Then you shouldn't choose CCHMS.
2. Academic emphasis? I am not sure about the other two schools but I do believe since the COPs of the three schools are close to each other, there shouldn't be that much difference in academic standards. Every year you see students from these three schools enter HCI, RI, NYJC, etc.
But it does sound to me that your main concern is still his HCL? Maybe you should consider schools where HCL is not compulsory? These schools usually have selection test for students at the end of the year to see if they can take HCL the following year. So, if your son develops an interest in HCL, he will have the option of taking the selection test and qualify for HCL? -
Really appreciate your prompt reply. He don’t like HCL that much compared to the rest as its its worst subject while he did well in the others. I attended CCHM open house today and feel he just need to be in the right school and with the teachers passionate and caring to guide him and then his interest in HCL will pick up. Personally, I prefer he continue HCL as Chinese will have growing importance overtime especially when he join the workforce. I’ll put as it as one the sec school choice for now together with the other SAP schools since he can make use of his extra PSLE HCL points. Thanks for your help again. 😊
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moon03\" post_id=\"2005327\" time=\"1606553821\" user_id=\"124558:
According to my kids, 40% of the principle speeches are in Chinese. I believe it is a
Really appreciate your prompt reply. He don’t like HCL that much compared to the rest as its its worst subject while he did well in the others. I attended CCHM open house today and feel he just need to be in the right school and with the teachers passionate and caring to guide him and then his interest in HCL will pick up. Personally, I prefer he continue HCL as Chinese will have growing importance overtime especially when he join the workforce. I’ll put as it as one the sec school choice for now together with the other SAP schools since he can make use of his extra PSLE HCL points. Thanks for your help again. 😊
conscious effort by the school, to create a conducive Chinese learning environment. -
My dd was determined to get into CCHM ever since attending open house 2017/2019. She was impressed with the vibrant environment, senior student engagement and etc.
She got 249 (+2) and posted successfully to CCHM via DSA.
I believed our children would do fairly well if they knows where they are heading to their eventual goal and are also equally capable to make certain judgement in their journey. Cheers.
**Pse PM me If there is a Sec1 2021 chat grp parents from all classes. Thank you.
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