Chung Cheng High (Main)
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qms\" post_id=\"2004833\" time=\"1606452512\" user_id=\"5718:
Hi QMS,
Not sure how information like % of CCHMS students who went to NYJC helps in your decision making. :scratchhead:mamamiya\" post_id=\"2004521\" time=\"1606383112\" user_id=\"6056:
Hi all,
My child has a score of 248, HC +2. We are torn between AHS and CCH. We stay in Simei, so it takes us 25 mins to get to AHS but an hour to CCH. May I know what’s the estimate % of CCH students who went on to NYJC? The affliation is very attractive to us. But at the same time, distance and travelling time are a bit discouraging. Can experienced parents in CCH share more information regarding the school pls? Thanks.
Anyway, I read from one of the threads that there are more AHS students in NYJC than CCH, though I am not sure whether the person was referring to CCHMS + CCHYS combined or just CCHMS. On the average, about 40 CCHMS students go to NYJC every year.
Like what the others mentioned, affiliation is very attractive, but please bear in mind that NYJC's COP is not exactly high and thus, it is rather difficult to enter the school. Even though NYJC's Science COP this year was 6, I heard that a student who had 10-4 only got in after appeal.
Also, information provided above might be true for schools generally, but not true to CCHMS.
It’s important for me as I would like my child to be able to get to a good JC. :evil: Hence, affliation is impt although noted that given the low COP, it could be tough. I saw in your earlier post on 13 Jun that “40-50% potentially qualify for NYJC. Of this, only 10% ends up in NYJC”. Here, you also mentioned that on average, about 40 CCHMS students go NYJC every year.
May I know how did you get the figures? Is there some website parents can refer to? Many thanks for your advice. -
That is because
qms children (now big already) studied in CCHM last time, school gave them the insight figures info, when her child was studying there. -
Hi, I would like check if anyone stay at West Side can carpool or schoolber to Cheng Chung High School?
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In CCHM, you DS DD will get to study HCL until the end of Sec 3 at least. Then the O Level CL performance will be used to determine whether he or she continues with HCL in sec 4.
But in AHS, every cohort has 50%-55% of the students doing CL. So HCL students are the minority.
Because even if you start with HCL in sec 1 but fail at the year end exam, you will be pushed to CL. That means, the child leaves the classroom to go to another class for CL when the others stay for HCL. -
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Tku for your very detailed and informative post!
I am a bit confused. Don't CCHS students get a 2 point affiliation to NYJC? So w CCA and HCL do they get 6 points off?
Another question - do the kids there converse mainly in English or Chinese?
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1)mamamiya\" post_id=\"2004521\" time=\"1606383112\" user_id=\"6056:
Hi all,
My child has a score of 248, HC +2.
We are torn between AHS and CCH. We stay in Simei, so it takes us 25 mins to get to AHS but an hour to CCH.
May I know what’s the estimate % of CCH students who went on to NYJC? The affliation is very attractive to us. But at the same time, distance and travelling time are a bit discouraging. Can experienced parents in CCH share more information regarding the school pls? Thanks.
If you choose Anglican High (SAP school), is a ditect straight-forward affliation to St Andrew Junior College, in that there is already an affliated A-level JC awaiting you. The path lying ahead of you, is a smooth path
2)
But,
if you choose Chung Cheng High (Main), can be a bumpy rough ride, for some.
What was last year (2019 O-level batch) Cut-off-point into Nanyang Junior College ?
for Science stream : it was 6
from Moe website (source)
https://sis.moe.gov.sg/SchoolDetails.aspx?schoolCode=0805
Under affliation,
this means that maximum,
your L1R5 cannot exceed 10 points, assuming that
you have managed to clear your Higher Chinese successfully, by scoring either an (A1 or A2 or B3) in your Sec 3 O-level (Standard Chinese) bu-hua.
Why 10 points (L1R5) ?
because
a) 2 discount points, off your clearance of O-level (Higher Chinese)
b) 2 discount points, off your clearance in Cca points
However,
bear in mind that not every Sec 4 student will end up with two Cca points. For some, they only scored 1 miserable Cca point.
So, for these students with 1 Cca point, instead of
(10 minus 4 discount points),
they ended up with
(10 minus 3) instead.
So, can these CCH (Main) students go back to their affliated NYJC ?
No
Not for Science stream,
because armed with 7 points, they failed to meet NYJC Science stream Cut-off-point (at 6 points)
Maybe can still go NYJC (Arts stream) with 7 points ?
Yes, cut off was 7, for Arts stream
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Another scenario, to take note of
What happen,
if Sec 3 students scored
(B4 or C5 or C6) in their Sec 3 (O-level Standard Chinese (bu-hua) National exam ?
CCH (Main) school said
No, next year Sec 4,
you got to repeat & re-sit For your O-level bu-hua one more time. Hopefully, you will score a better grade this time round since given a second chance, to help you in your L1R5 admission into JC ...
in case your O-level bu-hua subject turn out to become one of the core subjects used to compute your L1R5, so you need to do well in your bu-hua.
However, they will be barred from taking O-level (Higher Chinese) exam, because they are going to re-take O-level (Standard Chinese).
So, what happen?
Did this group of (B4 / C5 / C6) bu-hua students managed to clear their HCL hurdle obstacle ?
No, they could not
So, they are unable to get 2 discount points off HCL clearance
But,
if they still want to go back to their Affliated NYJC, because they love Nanyang JC so much, what must they score now, in order to go back ?
need 8 points !
No longer just need 10 points
Why 8 ?
because
(8 minus 2 points for Cca clearance equal 6, for NYJC (Science stream )
Is it hard (difficult) or easy, to clinche 8 points in your L1R5 ?
(only yourself, can answer)
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may we ask, is your P6 son or daughter strong in Higher Chinese ?
If No,
would suggest that you choose Anglican High instead, because truth be told, Psle HCL is easy, but Secondary school HCL is tough.
If come here,
And
if your Chinese isn't strong,
unfortunately end up score a
(B4 / C 5 / C6) in O-level bu-hua, barred from taking O-level ( Higher Chinese), you run the risk of missing the precious, valuable 2 discount points clearance in your L1R5, cannot go back to beloved affliated NYJC.
Furthermore,
you also mentioned that Anglican High is very near your house. Isn't this convenient ? Every morning, no need to wake up so early go to school ?
Besides,
does Anglican High, also another SAP school, impose the same identical cornering restriction on this O-level (bu-hua) minimum must score a B3 clearance, before let you sit for O-level (gao-hua) ?
Please go and confirm with Anglican High Chinese Head-of-department. If the answer is No, is obvious, which school to go for.
In stark contrast,
if your child's Chinese is very strong & powerful, by all means, come to Chung Cheng High (Main), since clearing bu-hua (B3 minimum) won't be a stumbling block nor hurdle
\"Sun zi bin fa \" teach us this -
know yourself well.
Know your strength,
Know your weakness -
Bitzy\" post_id=\"2005225\" time=\"1606533246\" user_id=\"189812:
Every student is only allowed maximum deduction of four (4) bonus points. With affiliation and HMT, you have the three (3) options to go about obtaining the four bonus points, unless you apply CLEP (which allows you to have 6 points off). You can take your time to understand about CLEP in details later but for now, just know that you can only have maximum four bonus points.
I am a bit confused. Don't CCHS students get a 2 point affiliation to NYJC? So w CCA and HCL do they get 6 points off?Bitzy\" post_id=\"2005225\" time=\"1606533246\" user_id=\"189812:
Most students speak in English. However, there are quite a number of scholars from China so these students naturally speak Mandarin.Another question - do the kids there converse mainly in English or Chinese?
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Hi is CCHM a very Chinese school? My kid did HCL in primary and don’t really like it and barely just passed it. Am worried that he’ll struggle with too Chinese culture but I really like the academic led approach for this school. Any advise?
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moon03\" post_id=\"2005300\" time=\"1606549075\" user_id=\"124558:
What do you mean by \"a very Chinese school\"? CCHMS is a SAP school, hence activities will be geared towards inculcating Chinese culture in the students such as tea appreciation, calligraphy, etc. However, knowing students nowadays, you will expect them to speak English more than Mandarin in school.
Hi is CCHM a very Chinese school? My kid did HCL in primary and don't really like it and barely just passed it. Am worried that he'll struggle with too Chinese culture but I really like the academic led approach for this school. Any advise?
If he barely passed HCL and is not receptive to the language, it's better not to apply with CCHMS since HCL is compulsory. -
qms\" post_id=\"2005302\" time=\"1606549941\" user_id=\"5718:
Thanks for the quick advise. He's also just below COP so am worried he'll struggle as most students will be 250 range. I just attended AHS and MSH which seems more all rounder and HCL is optional but doesn't seem as academic as CCHM. Any advise?
What do you mean by \"a very Chinese school\"? CCHMS is a SAP school, hence activities will be geared towards inculcating Chinese culture in the students such as tea appreciation, calligraphy, etc. However, knowing students nowadays, you will expect them to speak English more than Mandarin in school.moon03\" post_id=\"2005300\" time=\"1606549075\" user_id=\"124558:
Hi is CCHM a very Chinese school? My kid did HCL in primary and don't really like it and barely just passed it. Am worried that he'll struggle with too Chinese culture but I really like the academic led approach for this school. Any advise?
If he barely passed HCL and is not receptive to the language, it's better not to apply with CCHMS since HCL is compulsory.
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