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    • MrsKiasuM Offline
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      Mommies, do you all really get into the subject contents in order to help the kids?

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      • Zeal mummyZ Offline
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        [quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2045239 time=1636216078 user_id=58173]

        In the ideal world yes, in the real world ..somethings got to give. They can love all 3 humanities but only have time to study for 1-2.

        How much of lower sec history is built up towards upper sec and to JC? Are they related?

        Upper secondary History - content wise, it's new content. However, the skills required for Source Based Questions (SBQ) will be a built up from what has been taught in lower sec so it is necessary for the students to have a good grasp of the answering skills taught in lower secondary.

        To add on, believe most schools will not demand that you take upper sec History to offer History at A levels, but certainly the foundation will help give the child a headstart.[/quote]Thanks, good information… may I ask any recommendations for sec 2 history please? Survive one more year first then see how.

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        • Zeal mummyZ Offline
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          MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2045301\" time=\"1636263103\" user_id=\"43981:

          Mommies, do you all really get into the subject contents in order to help the kids?
          No I don’t..

          Edit: just want to clarify that we are talking about secondary school subject contents. That I don’t as I’m old and can’t remember most of the difficult things. If I do, I’ve to re-learn it.

          .. For primary, I do as it’s things I already know. And it’s easy peasy.

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          • sharonkhooS Offline
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            [quote=MrsKiasu post_id=2045261 time=1636251119 user_id=43981]Thanks slmkhoo! My worries always that she couldn't catch the 'skills'..ever told me her tuition during Pri time is a waste of money. She is very eager to try on her own but somehow I feel just worry ..

            There is another alternative - something like \"master classes\". School teachers may devote time to teaching these skills, but not all students pay attention or practise the skills! Just listening to the instruction won't improve their skills. You can also find a tutor for a limited no. of sessions just to deal with these skills, but again, the child must actually practise and refine the skills. There's no necessity for weekly tuition unless the child needs a tutor to impose discipline.

            Didn't know there is such thing..ok thanks[/quote]Not all tutors will do this, I think. I expect the per hour rate will be higher. But I've seen ads for such classes during the longer school holidays - just 2-4 sessions on a specific subject, or specific topics or skills.

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              MrsKiasu\" post_id=\"2045301\" time=\"1636263103\" user_id=\"43981:
              No I don’t..
              It depends on how much help the child needs. For one child, we only talked about the \"meta\" things - like how to approach studying, study habits, ways to seek help if needed, etc. My job was more to just provide food, clean clothes and a sounding board. It does help when the parent can understand the subject a bit, at least enough to ask the occasional intelligent question!

              For the other child, who was weaker and less motivated, yet, I got into everything (except Maths - but my husband had to help in that). In earlier years when content was less difficult, I was more focused on discipline and how to study (but also needed to drill a bit into the content), but as she went up in the years, I was coaching more of the content as well. Luckily, for her A levels, she took Geog (one of my strong subjects), Lit (she had a great teacher, and I also read all her texts so I could discuss with her), and GP was one of my better subjects too. Maths was my husband's job, and for her Management, I could help a bit, but we mainly told her - just pass it! There is only so much time available, and in lower sec when there are so many subjects, you probably have to choose to focus on the weakest subjects. It's not possible to focus on many subjects at once.

              To get back on topic, for History, you can just read her textbook, and maybe an article or 2, or wikipedia! Just so you can talk to her about the topics, and point her in the right direction. Because even to help her in SBQ or whatever, you need to know a bit of the content otherwise it's very hard to discuss anything useful.

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              • MrsKiasuM Offline
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                Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2045305\" time=\"1636264875\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2045305 time=1636264875 user_id=58173]

                It depends on how much help the child needs. For one child, we only talked about the \"meta\" things - like how to approach studying, study habits, ways to seek help if needed, etc. My job was more to just provide food, clean clothes and a sounding board. It does help when the parent can understand the subject a bit, at least enough to ask the occasional intelligent question!

                For the other child, who was weaker and less motivated, yet, I got into everything (except Maths - but my husband had to help in that). In earlier years when content was less difficult, I was more focused on discipline and how to study (but also needed to drill a bit into the content), but as she went up in the years, I was coaching more of the content as well. Luckily, for her A levels, she took Geog (one of my strong subjects), Lit (she had a great teacher, and I also read all her texts so I could discuss with her), and GP was one of my better subjects too. Maths was my husband's job, and for her Management, I could help a bit, but we mainly told her - just pass it! There is only so much time available, and in lower sec when there are so many subjects, you probably have to choose to focus on the weakest subjects. It's not possible to focus on many subjects at once.

                To get back on topic, for History, you can just read her textbook, and maybe an article or 2, or wikipedia! Just so you can talk to her about the topics, and point her in the right direction. Because even to help her in SBQ or whatever, you need to know a bit of the content otherwise it's very hard to discuss anything useful.

                I would love to know the subject so can direct her but just by thinking of it I feel it like a very big project. But dont think she would like me to put my leg in also.. just that I would like to see how can help her.

                I do offer my help for Maths tho but she never take it..not that I know/remember how to do it..but I thought if she needs my help then I can straight away zoom into that particular section and learn etc..that's easier for Maths but not for most other subj where I think must have head and tail.

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                • MrsKiasuM Offline
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                  Where do we find the qns with answers to practise, for all the subjects, besides from own school? Any qn fm online we can print? I m planning to go to Popular get some books later of the month.

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                    Zeal mummy\" post_id=\"2045305\" time=\"1636264875\" user_id=\"58173:[quote=\"Zeal mummy\" post_id=2045305 time=1636264875 user_id=58173]

                    It depends on how much help the child needs. For one child, we only talked about the \"meta\" things - like how to approach studying, study habits, ways to seek help if needed, etc. My job was more to just provide food, clean clothes and a sounding board. It does help when the parent can understand the subject a bit, at least enough to ask the occasional intelligent question!

                    For the other child, who was weaker and less motivated, yet, I got into everything (except Maths - but my husband had to help in that). In earlier years when content was less difficult, I was more focused on discipline and how to study (but also needed to drill a bit into the content), but as she went up in the years, I was coaching more of the content as well. Luckily, for her A levels, she took Geog (one of my strong subjects), Lit (she had a great teacher, and I also read all her texts so I could discuss with her), and GP was one of my better subjects too. Maths was my husband's job, and for her Management, I could help a bit, but we mainly told her - just pass it! There is only so much time available, and in lower sec when there are so many subjects, you probably have to choose to focus on the weakest subjects. It's not possible to focus on many subjects at once.

                    To get back on topic, for History, you can just read her textbook, and maybe an article or 2, or wikipedia! Just so you can talk to her about the topics, and point her in the right direction. Because even to help her in SBQ or whatever, you need to know a bit of the content otherwise it's very hard to discuss anything useful.

                    .. I really don’t want to be reading the secondary school textbook. They need to be independent learners at this age.. Besides, what if I provide her the wrong answers/interpretation etc! More harm than good.

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                    • Zeal mummyZ Offline
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                      Where do we find the qns with answers to practise, for all the subjects, besides from own school? Any qn fm online we can print? I m planning to go to Popular get some books later of the month.
                      Perhaps, you can go with your child to get the books. So that there’s some commitment to do it.. else the books will collect dust and go to waste.

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                        Upper secondary History - content wise, it's new content. However, the skills required for Source Based Questions (SBQ) will be a built up from what has been taught in lower sec so it is necessary for the students to have a good grasp of the answering skills taught in lower secondary.
                        Thanks for the information, Swc. Is sec 2 history content the extension of sec 1’s work? How do one improve on SBQ?[/quote]
                        Lower sec History is Singapore history. While it is connected, the focus of the content is different. So one does not need to be intimately familiar with sec 1 content to do well for sec 2 history per say.

                        As for SBQ skills, the most basic will be the ability to infer from the provided source the point that answers the question. But I am not sure how to strengthen inferencing skills other than the obvious one which is to read widely and do deep thinking when reading.

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