Starting salary
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If you are referring to civil service, I don’t think there was ever a distinction between 1st class and other honours degree holders? I think the line was set between upper and lower 2nd class honours, and between honours and general degrees? Can’t quite remember now. I do remember that there was no distinction between upper 2nd honours and a masters! And I don’t think there was any difference between local and overseas universities; it was based on class of degree. But I don’t know how it works now.
Private organisations may have been different. I would think a lot depends on how they see the candidate, not just his paper qualifications. -
ngl2010:
My daughter's friend who will be starting work in a govt organisation soon, he has a 2nd Class upper honours and his pay is about $100 less than one with first class honours but $500 more than one with 2nd Class lower honours.Last time, first class honours fresh graduate will get higher starting salary. Is it still true now?
How about local graduate vs overseas graduate (Ivy League university)? Which one will get higher starting salary?
TIA
My daughter will be graduating from NTU soon, and will be joining an investment company (doing Tech), her starting pay is the same as her future colleague who is graduating from Cambridge, doing the same job. -
\"Skills, not degree, at a premium now.\" :razz: jokes aside...
For the civil service, those with 1st class Hons & 2nd Upper Hons will come under special consideration, and some premium schemes (such as AO) only recruit those with with 2nd Upper Hons and above. For engineering graduates, with the introduction of an engineering incentive in the civil service, the starting pay for a guy with 1st class Hons BEng could reach $4.8K.
One department I know don't even recruit 2nd Lower nowadays.
They also have a higher starting pay than those with 2nd Lower Hons even though all of them may start at the same grade, for example, graduates join at MX13, starting pay can be $500 difference. -
mjl:
My daughter's friend who will be starting work in a govt organisation soon, he has a 2nd Class upper honours and his pay is about $100 less than one with first class honours but $500 more than one with 2nd Class lower honours.
That's very fine distinctions! It sounds like it's going against the trend now? Is the difference only because of the class of degree or are there any other differences in experience, other skills etc between the 3? -
slmkhoo:
Our family friend who became a teacher 30+ years ago told us that her starting salary as first class honours graduate was $400 higher than non-first class honours graduate (she didn't say whether they are 2nd class honours upper, lower or general). So I wonder how it is now.If you are referring to civil service, I don't think there was ever a distinction between 1st class and other honours degree holders? I think the line was set between upper and lower 2nd class honours, and between honours and general degrees? Can't quite remember now. I do remember that there was no distinction between upper 2nd honours and a masters! And I don't think there was any difference between local and overseas universities; it was based on class of degree. But I don't know how it works now.
Private organisations may have been different. I would think a lot depends on how they see the candidate, not just his paper qualifications. -
slmkhoo:
That's very fine distinctions! It sounds like it's going against the trend now? Is the difference only because of the class of degree or are there any other differences in experience, other skills etc between the 3?
All 3 are fresh graduates and have done internship with the organisation. The civil service tends to give a starting salary based on the class of degree, not by skills and job experience.
It is very important to do internships during undergrad years. My daughter and most of her friends received job offers from the organisations that they had interned with, a year before they graduate. -
Nowadays fresh grad are earning much though am ignoring the inflation
I remembered my first gross pay in 1991 was $1841 and after CPF deduction, the take home pay was only $1600+ -
starlight1968sg:
My starting salary (gross) was $1600 in 1986, after the pay reduction because of the recession. I was at NTU for a talk yesterday, and they flashed a table showing that starting salaries were around $3K to $3.3K for graduates from most courses.Nowadays fresh grad are earning much though am ignoring the inflation
I remembered my first gross pay in 1991 was $1841 and after CPF deduction, the take home pay was only $1600+ -
mjl:
To give credibility to the government's emphasis on skills, the civil service should lead by example.
The civil service tends to give a starting salary based on the class of degree, not by skills and job experience.
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