rains:

No. 60% is a low 'B'. Getting 60% across all subjects is more likely to get you 200 to 210 at psle. 4As is more likely to get you 230 to 245 (high As). I am not a psle expert and do not claim that my numbers are right or accurate, so I am not obliged to defend these numbers if challenged. I am just writing this to give you an idea and to raise your awareness of psle scores as you seem to be new to psle.

I am new to PSLE - the info helps to get an idea.

Would consider anything B and above to be a \"good\" score.

rains:

I think setting goals after going for open house would be too late. If I remember correctly, rgs and nygh's open house were in April or May last year. Most schools also have their open house around this time. You can call the schools up if the information is not available on their websites or even get it from this forum. The helpful parents here have collated the open house dates of secondary schools and posted them here under a thread on secondary school open house.


It is unlikely the teachers are able to tell you anything about her expected score at psle for now since it's early. It is more realistic to ask them such questions after prelims. But even then, it's difficult for them to commit to a number as the score still depends on the unknown ie. difficulty level of the papers and how the cohort does.

When would the prelims take place? I know they happen, but not so sure about this ...

Is there anything they do at P5 that would help me to try and project? Would it be a reasonable estimate to see where she came in her school, and also her raw score in end of year P5 exams to make a guess?

or is there any sort of \"practise\" for PSLE they do at P5 that I could use for an estimate?

Note - the family situation not ideal, which is why I am doing this in the first place, so talking about things like asking the parents to do leg work may not be very realistic...

What I am also kinda hoping is that we can use the Prelims to see how well we are on track for target...if that makes any sort of sense. Am hoping can see an improvement from P5 projection to Prelims....

slmkhoo:

bochap daddy:

Please note that \"only 60%\" is still a very solid, middle of the road mark.


There is nothing wrong with that...

60% across all papers is still a good solid 230 - 250 at PSLE right?

No. I think you are not familiar with the t-score for PSLE? It's not the raw score for 4 subjects added up. The t-score is a statistical figure based on the child's performance in the cohort. I don't know enough statistics to explain, but there is a discussion on KSP about t-score if you want to read it up.

Hee....I passed stats at school - yep I know the diff between raw and t scores, and understand how both are calculated.

Was doing a rough estimate based on there not being a wide divergence between raw and t...

slmkhoo:

bochap daddy:

[quote=\"rains\"]Try to aim for 5-mark improvement for every test/exam so that by psle, the child would ideally have made at least 10 to 20 marks improvement for the subjects. 5 marks would also seem and sound realistic to achieve to the child and the child is more likely to try for a 5-mark improvement rather than a 10- or 20-mark jump.

5 marks improvement per test - I like this approach!!

Just another note - this is not my child - I see her once a week (Saturday) for tuition.

This is an OK plan as long as the papers you use are of the same standard. This is where I feel the plan may not work - papers from different books or different schools will vary in difficulty. If you set a goal in terms of marks, then there is a chance that the child will not be able to deliver, and both you and the child will be disappointed. Also, I feel that whatever targets set should be achievable for the child, so if she is really weak, then setting a high target may be demoralising and counter-productive.

I have a child who is weak at Maths, and what we do with her is to assess her based on other measurables like no. of computation errors, no. of copying errors etc. We will praise her if the no. of avoidable errors decreases, and warn her to be more careful if the no. increases. We do tally up the marks for the whole paper, but we don't obsess on that. If the questions were really hard, we acknowledge that and don't make a fuss if she couldn't do them. We know that there are some that are just beyond her. For her, our aim with Maths is for her to try her best and get as many marks as she can, and if that is only 60%, we are OK as long as she has worked hard.[/quote]Please note that \"only 60%\" is still a very solid, middle of the road mark.

There is nothing wrong with that...

60% across all papers is still a good solid 230 - 250 at PSLE right?

When do open houses start happening? And what is the best way to proactively find out about them? (I have found school websites to be less than helpful in this area)


Is it reasonable to try to contact her teachers to get a feel for what she is capable of at PSLE?

rains:

It helps if you know what secondary school she is looking at.


Look at the COP of the school for the last few years and use the highest of the lot to be the aim, but set the target 20 points higher, and put in effort worthy of that 20 points.

My secondary school PE teacher said this that I found to be true in most situations: you aim for a gold, you get silver; you aim for silver, you get bronze; you aim for bronze, you fail.

Try to aim for 5-mark improvement for every test/exam so that by psle, the child would ideally have made at least 10 to 20 marks improvement for the subjects. 5 marks would also seem and sound realistic to achieve to the child and the child is more likely to try for a 5-mark improvement rather than a 10- or 20-mark jump.

5 marks improvement per test - I like this approach!!

Just another note - this is not my child - I see her once a week (Saturday) for tuition.

Hear what you’re saying Bluebells, however I do strongly believe in setting targets.


Can be sure that throughout the year, will be measured etc to see if on target, or if there are areas need to focus.

Don’t they have some sort of projection in P5?

To add on - the purpose is to try and measure and give her the sense of accomplishment that she is "ahead of target" as this is the first time she has been having regular tuition and work.

The plan is that she can "see" the results of her effort, and how it is helping so can know that it is "worthwhile". I think this will help with her motivation to keep coming to see me, if the results of her efforts cannot be quantified it is just a chore - but if she can see / feel the benefits then it might motivate to do more.

Need the collective wisdom of Kiasu Parents.


I am helping a family friend prepare for PSLE.

Would like to target a score that is a stretch but within reach for her capabilities.

How do we come up with a target score based on her past performance? (note - I don’t have all her past reports / test papers etc - whatever info I get, I have to ask her for)

GiftedGem:

bochap daddy:

Did not get in...


three from class go in - 2 boys n 1 girl

The same 3 that scored 100% in math SA2

Hi, it is by coincidence that yr child's classmates with Math 100% enter into GEP. I recalled my DD's batch in 2011. More than 50 kids in her school vying for 2nd round selection and 7 girls got in. The 7 selected did not have full marks in Math as the girls tend to be stronger in languages.

Yr DC is doing well with 94%. In fact, my nephew who is a smart boy, did not make it for 2nd round to GEP even though he was the top 3 in his cohort. He made it to RI finally based on his PSLE score of 263.

Absolutely - not suggesting otherwise - it was just the snippet of info she shared with me.

Coming home with her SA papers today - I get to go through with her...

The engrish I not happy :stompfeet: :frustrated: ....worst grades so far for SA

But am proud of her to make second round of GEP selection...

ululu:

bochap daddy:

Did not get in...


three from class go in - 2 boys n 1 girl

The same 3 that scored 100% in math SA2

100% in math?? oh dear, stress. My DD math result is hovering at the edge of Band 1.....not that she doesn't know how to do but full of careless mistakes.... I am not concerned if she stays in mainstream with that result... after all it is still a band 1... but this result in GEP can be bottom 10 I believe.... now I am beginning to feel the stress........ :nailbite: I better prepared myself for the challenge DD is facing ahead....

She didn't realize the challenge herself at all. no heart no lung (没心没肺) as always. She told me she met her Chinese teacher today. Her Chinese teacher said sad to see her go. She told me she wanted to hug the teacher but too shy to do so, in the end she was the one consoling the teacher telling her not to worry and she will remember to whatsapp her.

Yep-----school has two \"top\" classes -

My kid got 94% in math in SA2 - and from what can gather is still only about 12 or 13 in class ranking...(or lower)

To get 100% - my hat goes off to them...