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    • RE: [Serangoon] Primary Schools

      keekee:
      Hi Chie,


      Glad that ksmummy answers your questions. I don't have any insider info in PV area as dd1 didn't enter school via this route. We are ex-students of the school. What I can say is that dd1 is pretty happy with the school. So I think it is worth it the effort for you to try either RC or PV route to get a place in the school.
      Hi keekee,

      Thanks for the reply..:)..yup, I am very thankful for ksmummy's advices as well. At least, I know for now I don't have to crack my brains to come up with a proposal since it is so luck dependant...haha...

      I love my primary school too but it is just too far away despite it being a good school as well.

      Best Regards,
      chie

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    • RE: [Serangoon] Primary Schools

      ksmummy:
      How old is your child? Think Rosyth is taking PV for 2005 kids recently (or have they closed the application), check their website.


      If I remember correctly, you need not attach any proposal in your PV apllication, they pick you randomly (that's why I said it is very much dependent on Lady Luck!) for the interview. The interview is conducted by the Admin Manager.

      You are right about the advantage of PV vs Grassroots as it allows you to know more about the school and the staff.
      Thanks for the info., ksmummy. I will check the website. Anyway, my child is not born in 2005...i still have some more time to \"strategise\"...haha..:)..but since it is luck dependent, sigh, I may not have much chance...:(

      So, the rumour that parents PV who stays <1km has more priority is not true after all right?
      titank:
      Hi chie,

      Taking the RC route the advantage is that alow you to target more primary schools especially if you are under a GRC.
      Hi titank,

      Ya, I understand but honestly, I have more passion for PV than Grassroots and I only want to target 1 school because it is <50m from my house....

      But I am not a lucky person when it comes to draws, balloting, 4D/TOTO and etc....so I may eventually have to go by the grassroots way though I really hope I dun have to....:(...must start praying for better luck...haha..

      Thanks...:)

      Best Regards,
      chie

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    • RE: [Serangoon] Primary Schools

      ksmummy:
      Will be registering my 2003 son for P1 at Rosyth this year. I have completed my PV hours with Rosyth.


      From my observation, the school tried to shortlist the PV from diff groups - i.e. working parents/SAHParents, within 1km, 1-2km as well as >2km for interviews. No hard and fast rules, guess they tried to have an even distribution.
      Read: This is solely based on my own observation.

      They further shortlist successful PVs after interviews (machiam job interview like that, - stress!) to gauge your commitment level. Rosyth normally takes in PVs 2 years before P1 registration.

      May I add, if you are sure that your Grassroots application is guaranteed, I would said go for the Grassroots' path. The PV selection is very very much luck dependent!

      HTHs.
      Hi ksmummy,

      Thanks for the information. It is very very helpful to me..:)...Just for some point of reference, in your case, do u have to submit a proposal or your resume/CV together with the application form? Or do u have some specialization or specific skills that the school wants? For me, I really don't have anything that I can highlight, so getting a little worried..:(...

      The interview really very stressful ah? Who are the interviewers? Principle, teachers and other existing PVs?

      I have not make any headway in the grassroots direction yet as I very much still prefer to be a PV as PV allows me to know more abt the school. That's why I am trying to find out what is the school looking for and what and how else I can \"sell\" myself to the school..:(...

      Thanks for all your advices..really appreciate it...^_^

      Best Regards,
      chie

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    • RE: [Serangoon] Primary Schools

      keekee:
      The school actually asked for the number of sibling registrations from existing students last month. Guess they could be trying to gauge the no. of p1 classes to open next yr or no. of pvs who are 'entitled' to the letter.

      Hi keekee,

      It seems that your child is an existing student at Rosyth?? Would u be able to know what areas of interest in a PV is the school looking for and the \"rejection\" or \"success\" rate of PV applicants? It seems that not much pple in this forum are from the Serangoon region and do not have much information on PV for Rosyth...:(

      Thanks for any information in advance.

      Best Regards,
      chie

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    • RE: [Serangoon] Primary Schools

      Luanee:
      chie:

      Hi Luanee,Thanks a million for the information...:) Appreciate it very much. Do u also happen to know how many was actually taken in at phase 2C?


      Actual number taken in should be same as the vacancies available, unless some students from earlier phases withdraw, or the school opens a new class etc. U may want to call up the school to ask. And just to clarify, the number of applicants stated above may not all be staying within 1km. But from past stats, I believe the majority would be so as those staying out of 1km would be wasting their chances.

      Btw being PV or grassroot qualify in same phase 2B. Not sure what u mean by being PV not guaranteed, but grassroot is?

      Hi,

      What I mean is that application to join in the grassroots or to serve the community seems much easier and more guaranteed as compared to application to be PV.

      There are limited vacancies for PVs and school's criteria for choosing PV just seem so secretive and complicated whereas application to join the grassroots, by comparison, seems easier so long as one has the passion to serve the community.

      Best Regards,
      chie

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    • RE: [Serangoon] Primary Schools

      Luanee:
      chie:

      Hi Everyone,Anyone has the Phase 2C balloting history for Rosyth the past few years? Understand that balloting required for <1km for past 3 years but I saw from another forum and it appears that the school takes in all applicants <1km in phase 2C. So, not sure which is correct.


      Phase 2C stats:
      2006: 41 vacancies, 181 applicants
      2007:51 vacancies, 169 applicants
      2008: 62 vacancies, 153 applicants

      Balloting conducted for those staying within 1km for all 3 years.

      Hi Luanee,

      Thanks a million for the information...:) Appreciate it very much. Do u also happen to know how many was actually taken in at phase 2C?

      Seems like the only more \"guaranteed\" way is to be a active community leader since PV also not confirmed that sure can get in.

      Sometimes, schools are conflicting and contradicting themselves. They prefer PVs who are homemakers/housewives as they are more flexible and can devote more time yet they also take interest in those who can submit detailed proposals but can possibly stay quite far from the school. It really leaves parents who stays near the school and had no luck in both PV and balloting at wits end.....:(...

      Just some of my thoughts.

      Best Regards,
      chie

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    • RE: [Serangoon] Primary Schools

      Hi Everyone,


      Anyone has the Phase 2C balloting history for Rosyth the past few years? Understand that balloting required for <1km for past 3 years but I saw from another forum and it appears that the school takes in all applicants <1km in phase 2C. So, not sure which is correct.

      In addition, does anyone knows the "success" rate for Parent Volunteer applicants for Rosyth? Called the school and the administration manager would only comment that no. of applicants is more than than the no. of vacancies.

      Thanks very much for any information in advance.

      Best Regards,
      chie

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    • RE: Handed homework went missing

      insider:
      EN:


      Insiders, I am glad the missing homeworks are no longer misplaced. I don't want to ask my son to re-do the homework because I dont want to impact his morale. Just like an adult at work, hard pressed for time but put an effort and attack a work with vigour and enthusiasm but ended up the work done was lost through no fault of his. To add on, getting scolded in front of classmates is not a very pleasant experience for him either.


      Taking this as a discussion point for my parenting style.

      Sometimes, I would use all these unfair situations as training grounds for my kids, PURPOSELY let them sort of 'suffer' (with my kind of so strong character, if want to go against someone I am capable of flipping the roof but such 'strength' should only be shown as a last resort). Sometimes, teachers may have marked / calculated the marks wrongly, accused wrongly, etc and I do know that my kids are not wrong. BUT, I will get them to swallow coz I feel all these humiliation, etc, are in a controlled environment of a school. It is important to know how far your kid can go in terms of 'resilience' training. This kind of matter / stress will multiply in times when they are ready for the working world. The world is not a 'fair' place afterall. How to take and swallow shit at times and just move on in life cheerfully. My 'training' starts from young, that as long as your conscience is clear, then it is alright if others want to mistake you. Just have to swallow the humble pie.

      I have a different viewpoint on this. Depending on case to case, making children to swallow the humble pie may not be a training opportunity because young adults are at an age where they may seemed to know a lot but do not have enough 社会经验or人生的历练 to understand that teachers are also individuals who have different ways and styles of \"teaching\" children. And children or young adults may not be mature enough to truly understand that it is okay to swallow the humble pie at times and one do not have to win all the times and that in fact, not winning is actually winning. These are concepts that may be alien to them.

      And if the child himself or herself cannot be totally convinced or reconcile internally why the teacher did that to him/her even though he/she did no wrong, it is a bad memory that can stay forever and it definitely impact the self-esteem of the child negatively. He or she may condition himself/herself not to voice out his/her opinion in future. It may not be that bad if the child has a cheerful, optimistic personality but if it's a child that is highly sensitive, the impact of this kind of \"training\" is unimaginable if the parent cannot help to manage the emotions and expectations of the child.

      There may also be teachers who sometimes really vent their own frustration on the children. This is from my own experience and in retrospect, although I can \"forgive\" the teacher's behaviour now, it negatively affects my interest and grades for the subject.

      If my child face the same thing that I faced before, I will tell him/her that we can go and talk to the teacher together and thrash out the understanding and close the case.

      Sometimes, our conscience are clear but the other party cannot see it and may insist in their own mind that we are at fault. It may just take a little face-to-face communication to resolve it. 所谓人言可畏,even if we know we are not at fault, it does not pay to be perceived negatively when it is not the case.

      Just my thoughts.

      Please pardon the few chinese phrases in between as I can't think of the english equivalent phrases to express the same meaning...;)

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    • RE: Handed homework went missing

      EN:

      Not sure if I should follow up with an e-mail to the teacher just in case the same issue happen again. Should I or should I let the matter be since it is resolved?
      For me, I will let the matter rest since it has been resolved. I would also normally give 3 chances for the same error, depending on circumstances of course. If it happens for the 4th time, I will really pursue it and ask the teacher for a satisfactory explanation because it matters to me why it can keep happening.

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    • RE: Handed homework went missing

      EN:
      My son has recently been asked to re-do homework which he has completed and has handed to the teacher. There are 4 cases in all relating to two different teachers.


      Out of the 4 cases, twice the teacher is able to find his homework among her stack of files.

      The other teacher seems to be more apologetic however; she demanded to know from my son, which relief teacher he has handed his work to (the teacher in-charged was on medical leave that day). I found it strange for a teacher to be asking her student who the relief teacher was when I feel that the appropriate way is for her to be in touch with the office rather than insisting my son to remember the relief teacher’s name.

      I know my son has completed his homework as I have helped to vet through all the 4 works that were said missing. The work done is of good quality so there should not be any hesitation on my son part not to submit his homework. Secondly, he is extremely neat in packing his school equipment, books and homework are put in homework folder.

      Do other parents face the same issue of teachers missing your child’s homework / project? What would you do when face with the same problem?
      I had not had the chance to face with such issues yet but if I were in your shoes and the homework done is of good quality and symbolises certain milestone achieved and not the usual routine, practising homework, I will press for the teacher to find the homework out and explain where it had landed with instead of being in the homework folder.

      Personally, it does not feel good to know that my child's homework can be so easily misplaced as it mean that the school does not really care.

      Just my 2 cents worth.

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