janet88:hubby is paranoid about kids going overseas. i thought i am worse. anyway, son's japan trip is fully packed itinerary. planning to apply for a debit card for him. at least he can buy something he likes.
Zeit:the ratio is 1:10. Ya, we can bring children ourselves. I traveled with him alone in outskirts of South Korea. He is familiar with traveling - not the group tour kindYour child was recently bullied by his classmates and you don't feel good that he's going to be with them on this overseas trip? Won't there be a buddy system or 1 teacher: 5 kids to look out for one another?dolphin11:
we just had an episode of bullying. not about parenting methods.sometimes its just a mattar of time for them to develop the skills to say no.
If you judge that your son's not mature or street smart enough, it's best to opt out. There's very little culture/heritage to learn across the Causeway (unless they are going to Malacca or Penang). You can take him there yourself.
I just don't feel safe when you mentioned Causeway, which means they are travelling by coach. I rather be the one controlling the wheel. Any mishap, I take full responsibility!
more on DIY type. He can read map and can help to watch out for bus etc. :imanangel:
Cloud Cloud:Unless it is to take part in competition, I will not allow my primary school child to travel overseas. Agree, not worth the risk.yes he is primary schooler. I am trying share in this group that it's ok not to go . Why risk if you know your child's senses has not develop? Look deeper into the purpose. Is it necessary in the first place?dolphin11:[quote=\"slmkhoo\"]Dolphin11's child is still in pr school? I would probably not allow if he was my child. I don't see the need, and I feel that kids of that age are still too young to travel in groups away from family.
From the mid-teens, I think kids should be sensible and independent enough to travel in school groups.
This year, my 18yo daughter is planning to go on a week's holiday with 3 other girls. The various parents have told them that if they go on a tour, we're OK with it. By next year, she may well be living overseas and I will just have to trust her good sense, so this is a \"try-out\". I studied overseas from 19yo, and travelled extensively with friends, and it was fine. A lot depends on the child's maturity and good sense.
slmkhoo:yes he is primary schooler. I am trying share in this group that it's ok not to go . Why risk if you know your child's senses has not develop? Look deeper into the purpose. Is it necessary in the first place?Dolphin11's child is still in pr school? I would probably not allow if he was my child. I don't see the need, and I feel that kids of that age are still too young to travel in groups away from family.
From the mid-teens, I think kids should be sensible and independent enough to travel in school groups.
This year, my 18yo daughter is planning to go on a week's holiday with 3 other girls. The various parents have told them that if they go on a tour, we're OK with it. By next year, she may well be living overseas and I will just have to trust her good sense, so this is a \"try-out\". I studied overseas from 19yo, and travelled extensively with friends, and it was fine. A lot depends on the child's maturity and good sense.
Jennifer:we just had an episode of bullying. not about parenting methods.dolphin11:Its our turn to \"storm\" through this.. oversea trip across the causeway for primary schooler.. 2days 1 night
Are our children ready for the paradox box to be opened?
Here's my consideration:
- Bullying - be it verbal or physical is common these days. 2 to 3 children shared the same room. This is a good opportunity for peers to tease or bully. do they know to stand up for themselves ? do they fear of jeopardizing the 'friendship'? can they choose their room mates? do we need to wait for damage or traumatize to be done? or can we wait for them to develop the sense of judgement?
- to lead or to follow : with a few children in the same room .. what fun stuff will they be up to in the absence of an adult at night? all it takes is one to lead and the rest to follow. is our children sensible enough not to follow and brave enough to say No, this is wrong i do not want to follow?
- Connection to the world through wifi... Do we know what site they are viewing? I often seen children crowding around a child with handheld device. Not all parents are technology savy to setup parental blocks. does the kids know what content is viewable and what are junk?
- destination : no matter how 'safe' it is. Natural or man-made disaster can happen any time. The recent effect of monsoon wind in sg is a reminder. terrorist attack, kidnapping, missing.. these news are often covered up. what can we do as a parent? To be realistic, we cannot prevent. if it meant to happen, it will happen. At least, i want to be there if such things happen until the child develop sense of awareness or safety skills.
-value systems : perks such as shopping time slot and buffet style breakfast and 5 star hotel are provided in the package. I wonder what kind of value system are we inculcating. In our family trip, we do backpack.. means usually on shoe string budget. culturally teaching them to be shopper and travel luxury? This is something that i m not comfortable with.
- understanding history of other countries: do we really need to go there to appreciate? how many historical sites in sg have we bring our children to?
I am all for stay in camps hosted locally where children get a taste of disciplines, and community sharing under the watchful eyes of adults. Yes, its not easy to disallow. that's why i label it as \"storm\".
Trust your parenting methods and trust yourself that you have brought up your child well.
sometimes its just a mattar of time for them to develop the skills to say no.
Its our turn to "storm" through this… oversea trip across the causeway for primary schooler… 2days 1 night
Are our children ready for the paradox box to be opened?
Here’s my consideration:
- Bullying - be it verbal or physical is common these days. 2 to 3 children shared the same room. This is a good opportunity for peers to tease or bully. do they know to stand up for themselves ? do they fear of jeopardizing the ‘friendship’? can they choose their room mates? do we need to wait for damage or traumatize to be done? or can we wait for them to develop the sense of judgement?
- to lead or to follow : with a few children in the same room … what fun stuff will they be up to in the absence of an adult at night? all it takes is one to lead and the rest to follow. is our children sensible enough not to follow and brave enough to say No, this is wrong i do not want to follow?
- Connection to the world through wifi… Do we know what site they are viewing? I often seen children crowding around a child with handheld device. Not all parents are technology savy to setup parental blocks. does the kids know what content is viewable and what are junk?
- destination : no matter how ‘safe’ it is. Natural or man-made disaster can happen any time. The recent effect of monsoon wind in sg is a reminder. terrorist attack, kidnapping, missing… these news are often covered up. what can we do as a parent? To be realistic, we cannot prevent. if it meant to happen, it will happen. At least, i want to be there if such things happen until the child develop sense of awareness or safety skills.
-value systems : perks such as shopping time slot and buffet style breakfast and 5 star hotel are provided in the package. I wonder what kind of value system are we inculcating. In our family trip, we do backpack… means usually on shoe string budget. culturally teaching them to be shopper and travel luxury? This is something that i m not comfortable with.
- understanding history of other countries: do we really need to go there to appreciate? how many historical sites in sg have we bring our children to?
I am all for stay in camps hosted locally where children get a taste of disciplines, and community sharing under the watchful eyes of adults. Yes, its not easy to disallow. that’s why i label it as "storm".