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Hi fellow parents, may I check with you on the following:

if NaN Chiau high has any internal criteria for hcl for sec 3. whereby if student score below b3 at Sec 3, student cannot take the hcl o level paper in Sec 4. Which also mean will lose the bonus point for taking hcl.

thank you very much.

Idk whether things changed since the new principal took over, like how HYTam86 suggested. For my kid's yr the HOD recommended students who scored b4 and below to continue with normal CL since HCL is a step higher, unless they are very sure that they can score a merit for HCL. They did't really force if the kid insists that he can cope, though there were definitely some nagging. Since let say if the kid did't make it thru for O lvl HCL in the following yr, he technically loses more (in terms of points) than if he continued CL and scored even just slightly better.

You might want to call the sch tmr to confirm again. But I suggest don't look at these small part too seriously (as they are not black and white rules to begin with). Best is to let the kids decide for themselves. They are the ones to be going to the school. Let them be independent to deal with what is coming up, since the most important thing for them is to enjoy studying and not forcing them to go somewhere they don't like and come back again saying \"my mom or pa say got bonus points so I come lorh\". They need the motivation and purpose to perform well in school.

Think apart from the part that the post sounded like a preference for Hwa Chong JC rather than Nanyang JC, Eddisema did brought up a valid point, that is it is probably too early to make "the benefit to enter a particular JC" a major factor when considering for sec 1 posting. It is probably too early for that to be a matter to the kids at the point in time to differentiate out their impressions of the individual JCs.

Looks like NYJC's Robotics is quite strong. Their teams just secured an international championship, on top of sharing a national championships with HCJC.


From the official fb page:
https://www.facebook.com/Nanyangjc/posts/1921858447827420
https://www.facebook.com/Nanyangjc/posts/1974466499233281
https://www.facebook.com/Nanyangjc/posts/1985066311506633

Just my opinions lah I was speculating there are a few computing students in there too? Looking from how the competition seems to be towards (likely more to stimulated coding environment without a physical preview, adding to the skills requirements), and the fact dat NYJC offers computing as a subject. Not sure anyone shared similar thoughts about this.

On a side note :congrats:. That was quite good in my view.

I hav a friend with a twin in Anglican and Nan Chiau last time so can ask their kids (Both scored straight As, now in HCI, taking CLEP). I would say both schs attitude were much better, just dat Anglican High the church culture too strong my girl don't like it (heard got quite a lot of religious stuffs in the programme). And from der open houses at Nan Chiau, after talking to a few kids thr I don't think I will change my decision. My girl put Nan Chiau as 1st choice, just hope her 243+3 can get in.

bnib11:

Thanks for the sharing and information. Yes, Nan Chiau is also more accessible from my location. Of course, Chung Cheng is sitting on a large plot of land with their trademark lake and buildings to woo people over. End of the day, I think the school programs matter a lot. And one observation we made was Nan Chiau students are more polite and respectful during the open house. Not sure if this is the baseline though.

Yeah was sharing the same feel too. The students are very modest and really want to do well.

Went to Chung Cheng's openhouse last yr, at first was impressed but now really feel bit far from that they show. I went again with my girl a few mths back to have a good look at the atmosphere around their O Level period (went to meet their HODs coz expected openhouse alot ppl again) The environment is good I must say, but the discipline was worrying. It was night study but saw quite a number of students just fooling around and playing fone with their book open. After comparing wat HOD said with other SAP schs their past yr results wan't that decent also.

Add-on:

JCs earn their reputation NOT exactly through results. The main thing that make a difference in the JC’s reputation is their academic and non-academic programmes (including those character, leadership programmes), as well as their policies and culture. The COP and consequently the academic results and credentials follows (which is determined by the quality of the students that go in for the programmes, that plays everything out).

Those schools that people regard commonly as "top" schools with good culture like the old hwa chong jc expecially (I am refering to the former JC with 4 red arrows) earned respect from the kind of programmes it offer. People know about and are drawn to the programmes and culture through the experiences from their seniors or from their own eyes (there is no internet anyway), which increase the competitiveness of the places, better quality students enrol, and results of the sch follow, consequently their recognition. (all top schools earn their credentials that way). hwa chong jc and raffles jc wasnt standing out until the 1990s when there is solid programmes and a good reputation of its culture. The students will tell overtime whether the JC is good.

Schs that earned respect such as NYJC, PJC and MJC also get better through their programmes, and especially its value-addedness in various aspects from teaching to CCA excellence (its basically like what is said above). Again, results don’t really tell much about the school (except the quality of the students and their hardwork. If not why even top IP students go for tuition if they can score from their tutors?). No one would like and promote a JC where there is nothing good of memories but known for good results (only because the students are already up to standard but not good programmes) It only add to the helplessness and stress but not good memories for any average student to really grow in person. In some cases, students might just end up suffering because the JC isn’t a fit for them, and teaches at a pace they can’t adapt to (it happens especially in top schools)

Again I stress that the kids must know which school is a good fit, and choose a school that he and she can enjoy and excel, not by comparison results because he isn’t taking the exam at that point in time and it might not apply to him or her that she guarantee will achieve it.

Hope all these helps to refocus the discussion.

This point is commendable. Good one (tho dat does NOT mean I fully agree with every arguments made)

[quote]\"Most importantly, your kid must perform well at A-level disregarding which JC he/she is in.

There's no point being in a good JC but perform poorly and constantly suffering from low morale. On the other hand, one can still perform well at A-level in a lower ranking JC and enjoy himself with great confidence and good spirit.
You can't measure nor compare quantifiable and non-quantifiable factors anyway and life is not just about school results.\"[/quote]On Results of the JC: It doesn't matter
The results of the JC don't determine much when passing rate or distinction rate is close (its just a matter of a few students) NJC, NYJC, VJC all share the same standards. Don't pick on those results, it don't matter! Those results don't predict whether ur child will get the same results (no one is the same)

Using these stuffs to accuse someone is promoting just make the forum disgusting. Not because of the promotion, but those personal attacks and so on...all these please do it privately. Its unfriendly to sandwich all the useful stuffs and forcing eager parents and students to read through all the ugly comments. That isn't serving the purpose of the forum right.

Let ur kids make the choice. It their life, their experiences
The most important part is whether ur child likes the JC itself (just let go and let them choose for themselves). For the quality of the teachers the kids know it best (especially if they have interactions with their friends and seniors). Anyway it is a natural thing for independent learners to sought for better resources (be it from other JCs notes, online notes (many are good notes as long as you kid knows how to use them in the new syllabus) or seeking good tutors in college or tuition centres) If ur kid isn't able to proactively help themselves out there is no JCs capable to know exactly what the kids want spoon feed everything to them. Anyway, results don't determine quality of a person, but experiences along the way does (every school is unique in its way and definitely there is takeaways be it negative of positive stuffs). There is no point proofing and speculating which JC is better.

Anw the positive posts about the JCs on the grps are not wrong explicitly (since the term \"networking groups\" alrd meant that it is also meant for parents to share and discuss the updates in the JC). Anyway they are also bring up some details along the way (since its the basis of their arguments to begin with). Ultimately, it is up to the kids themselves where they want to go (let them take the ownership and be responsible for their decisions. Its already JC and they are grown ups!)

Encourage ur kids to go for the open-houses and visit the JCs personally to feel the air rather than relying on speculations that goes on and on.

What will be beneficial
What this forum is supposed to do ideally is to give information on the college programmes and details that is relevant to match the students' (or less ideally, parents') Sharing on programmes such as CLEP for NYJC, TJC, Humanities programme in NJC etc., what the school policy is, how the JC teach etc., or just about the JC, A Level or IB system in general.

What was shared about the good news from the college, such as some teachers getting awards, students getting awards is good to prove the strength of the college, let it be just don't \"加料\" and put down other JCs (even if it happened, don't go and enlarge it by sparking useless debates. LEAD THE DIRECTION OF THE FORUM BACK! Isn't simple to just say steer the topic around by adding a sentence that request something that benefits everyone?). Results are okay at large (to show roughly as an outcome for those who really wanted to see for themselves), BUT DON'T USE IT repeatedly TO COMPARE with other JCs with all those small percentages.

Hope these help to set the stuffs right. :grphug:

From: https://www.facebook.com/Nanyangjc/posts/1699651483381452

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Congratulations to the following NYJCians for receiving scholarships from NTU!
The Nanyang Scholarship holders:
Bernice Chia, Cassius Tan, Chan Zhi Qing, Chong Ding Zhou, Chua Si Hui, Darren Teo, Gavin Woo, Hee Yu Sheng, Jasmine Tay, Yonuice Kuan, Javier Lee, Macasieb Celine Faye Espanol, Mary Jane Turla Villamor, Melissa Goh, Ng Jun Hao, Noor Azzy Binte Zulkifli, Nyi Lwin Min, Ong Jun Peng, MeiQing Quak, Sin Kia Suan, Su Ziling, Wenyi Tang, Gerald Tay, Tew Xuan Na, Theresa Lee, Wang Yonghan
ASEAN Merit Scholarship (CN Yang Scholars Program) holder: Joseph Sebastian Ang
Renaissance Engineering Programme Scholarship holders:
Palash Jain, Tan Yong Kang, Tan Zhen Yuan
Teaching Scholarship holders:
Darren Kung, Don Seah, Hu Chong 'En,
University Scholars Programme Scholarship holders:
Danielle Lavinia Wauran, Eunice Ow, Joshua Lai

Dats a lot of scholars, Nanyang JC is really showing its capacity as a top non-IP JC.
:congrats:

ElaineK:

Hi im looking for an SAP school for 2 of my kids which is accessible fm Woodlands to consider for next yr (hope to be convenient to travel so they dunnid to wake up early).


Currently in mind is Nan Chiau High (can go by bus), Nan Hua High (bus or mrt?), River Valley High (IP but doubt dey can meet the COP). Which is more direct and convenient?? ._.

My take is to pick the school dat is easy to travel for ur kids, since IMO there is not much to differentiate for the 3 schs in terms of sch culture (except RV is an IP sch).

It will definitely be tiring to climb up and down and to be squashed with people every day, especially in secondary sch it can be quite common for CCAs to end during the evening rush hour. Also during exams having a smooth journey is important for kids to calm down and get ready, especially when trains nowadays break down so frequently.

For distance fm MRT stations, RV is abt 8 min walk Boon Lay MRT, Nan Chiau is also abt 8 min walk fm Sengkang MRT, Nan Hua is at the middle of Clementi and Dover.

Another thing is whether ur kids is comfortable with the sch anot (this one we cannot do anything much since dey r the ones who r studying so dey shd know themselves best). For me my gal prefer Nan Chiau over Anglican High and Chung Cheng Main although we live quite near to Anglican High so only thing I can say is make sure u work hard to get in lorh.

[quote]Wah now got new service coming up dat connect NCHS directly to airport liao, just outside the sch somemore.

(news just out today fm https://www.facebook.com/WeKeepYourWorldMoving/)[/quote]The main thing is now kids in the east area can have another alternative dats even more direct fm sch. Dey can just take bus fm outside sch gate and change to the existing services at the new long bus stop just before TPE. (so we don't nid to worry about the long travel time). Is good news

My girl considering Nan Chiau High next yr and so if laidat she only nid to do 1 bus transfer fm home. Got consider Anglican High for proximity but girl don't like the church culture. (Chung Cheng was out of her preference also)

Heard fm my students dat Nan Chiau High's culture quite inclusive?