Zeit:

TOUCH WOOD - Though no amount of money can heal one's loss or bring back one's loved one, it's still prudent to enhance Mindef's free Core insurance coverage by buying the Voluntary plan (premium is $41/mth and payout is $1 million) for NSFs.


Core scheme's payout is only $150,000.

http://www2.aviva.com.sg/money-banter/new-mindef-mha-group-insurance-scheme/

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150K ? Did not know that our boy's life is so cheap.

Estéema:

I'm very aware of the Army culture & certainly think we must continually push for the 'bully' mentality out of that orgn!

And ridiculous punishments such as

- catching ants, one must be male and one must be female
- collecting stones and lie them out like a platoon, and giving orders for them to turn right, left and moving the stones at the same time

More and more \"abuse\" stories are surfacing. Another posted to facebook by Terence Lim:


Terence Lim: We should start a page to post all of our experiences of such mistreatment.

REC Andrew Chew Heng Huat, PTE Dominique Sarron Lee, and now PTE Dave Lee Han Xuan, only to name a few - in the worst scenario, I might well have ended up among them if not for my own vigilance...

Straits Times Forum, 19th May 2004 (copy @ https://groups.google.com/forum/...) summary - I was:

1) Denied rest for not running a fever despite having all the other symptoms of flu,
2) Accused of trying to ‘geng’ (malinger) by claiming that my breathing difficulties were “purely psychological”,
3) 'Knocked down' (forced to do push-ups) by my Platoon Commander as punishment for being too exhausted to run, who shouted \"I don't care if you die!\",
4) Brushed off by the Medical Officer who recklessly dismissed my newly detected heart murmur as \"functional\" and without any explanation of why it was missed during the pre-enlistment screening, and
5) Downgraded immediately without question only when the National Heart Centre (not private specialist), which I visited on my own accord to safeguard my life, diagnosed me with mild Mitro-Valve Prolapse.

In their reply on 22nd May 2004 to my above letter, MINDEF had the nerve to say “servicemen are reminded to exercise personal responsibility for their own well-being and seek immediate medical attention whenever they are unwell”.

Then the Straits Times blocked my subsequent response from publication, obviously because it exposed the fact I did exactly that but was obstructed at every stage.

limlim:

During peace time and for no apparent reason, they are not duty bound to perform it if situation does not warrant it. If you cannot judge when situation warrants it, then perhaps you need to go thru NS(again?) to learn the obligations of a soldier.

Let's talk about the teacher giving extra coaching, which is 1 of the grouses that you bought up. In this case, the teacher will use their professional judgement to evaluate whether the situation warrants it.

What don't you just admit that you do not know what the JD of a teacher officially, instead of going round and round and try to plug holes in your argument ?

Sun_2010:

btw, hope you know what JD stands for -It's Just Do
:

You are wrong JD stand for - Jin Dulan

floppy:

Err... you have answered your own question.
How a person who is technically not part of the civil service follow the rules set for the civil service?
Should she set a good example? Probably... but that's her prerogative and not a basis of setting a policy. Notwithstanding, she don't even own the damn car that fetches her to work!

Even though she may technically not be a civil servant but as the holder of the highest public office in the land, should she not set the example . Whether it is a individual perogative or not, if the law of the land for public e.g civil servants is Clean Wage, it would be very glaring that this is not applied to her.

Or are you telling me that \"Four legs good, two legs better\" ?

floppy:

. If you are waiting for everything to be same-same before a policy gets implemented or work gets done, then nothing will ever happen.

Why not ?

limlim:

GinMocca:

[quote=\"limlim\"]

I say, being commercial or non commercial has nothing to do with whether parking is free or not.

It doesn't matter if some non commercial entity don't charge parking, as being commercial or not has no relevance (which is what I'm saying to MotherHen).

The definition is non-commercial, and many of the various government agencies falls under this category. School is own by gov, so are the agencies, so they make a good example for comparison.

And they pay for parking.

Aiyoh....You said non-commercial also has to pay parking and you cited HDB. But you could not answer why a private property do not have to pay parking. You are just digging a hole for yourself.

Apparently, you don't understand my original reply to motherhen. So I will rephrase in simple to understand way.

Motherhen was sad that school is charging for parking because she feel it should not be the case for non-commercial building.

I am just telling her that there is no need to feel sad over this, because there are other non-commercial buildings that pays for parking too. HDB carpark is an example.

The reason why they charge for parking varies. Why HDB pay for parking, I don't know and I don't care. Why some no need pay parking? I don't know and I don't care.

But I can tell you that school need to pay parking because of gov's clean wage policy.

So no need to feel sad over it. It's not the only case where one needs to pay parking in non-commercial entity. school is no exception to the clean wage policy.[/quote]Precisely, then does the President pays for parking in the Istana ? Please see my reply to floppy

floppy:

Shouldn’t all civil servants be the same? .

Does the President pays when she park at the Istana ? Even though she may technically not be a civil servant but as the holder of the highest public office in the land, should she not set the example ? How about the staff that works at the Istana. Do they pay ?

limlim:

GinMocca:

You cannot keep shifting the goal posts. Your definition is non-commercial. Pte houses are non-commercial and I do not pay parking whether I park inside the house or just outside the house ( where the land does not belong to me)

I say, being commercial or non commercial has nothing to do with whether parking is free or not.

It doesn't matter if some non commercial entity don't charge parking, as being commercial or not has no relevance (which is what I'm saying to MotherHen).

The definition is non-commercial, and many of the various government agencies falls under this category. School is own by gov, so are the agencies, so they make a good example for comparison.

And they pay for parking.

Aiyoh....You said non-commercial also has to pay parking and you cited HDB. But you could not answer why a private property do not have to pay parking. You are just digging a hole for yourself.

thsheng99:

lee_yl:

[quote=\"thsheng99\"]I guess that is why Lawrence Wong came out and warned on the depreciating values of HDB flats

Aiya, teachers have also been pre-warned (for years), yet a handful still can’t accept that they need to pay for parking in school.
:siam:

You may think this is funny but I just think this is a real cheap potshot.[/quote]Just ignore them lah. They could not articulate their stands convincingly in the Teacher's thread so have to resort to such snides in another completely unrelated thread