limlim:

Harlequin:

:goodpost: .... whenever I read about GEP discussion here in various threads, this is what always come to mind -- they should be given a truly specialized academic path tailored to groom their giftedness.

Question is.. Are GEP students truly gifted?

or well trained.. :evil:

Valid.

I would say, out of the 500 each year, probably 400 to 450 is trained, nurtured, or prep....


Sometimes I wondered, the truly gifted are short changed to accept an Gifted programme that's not truly tailored for them...

pirate:

1girl1boy:

So where does our gifted education programme stand? A potential nobel laureate? An IMO champion?

Bankers, lawyers, doctors and civil servants in the admin service.

High achiever ba....

The truly gifted will not be doing these high achievers could do.... unless the edu system made them \"befitting\" into the bracket.

The truly gifted, they just 思考 in such a different way... that I think most of the people cannot come close to understand them, not even the higher up in the gov.

Just my silly opinion, its ok if anyone don't get what I said

metz:

Erm, after such a lengthy discussion, can anyone share the 'officially' correct answer?


For all you know, I may have read the setter's thought wrongly.

Whatever the setter's thought, this is undoubtedly a poorly worded question, and answers. :xedfingers:

Who hasn’t heard of 韩愈？ and his "cleverness" of being able to "fill up the room effortlessly"? It’s as famous as 孔融让梨 …


People nowadays are so inclined to run to the internet to fish for info at the very instance… is it more important just to show "i know before you know"?

How to be able to 贯通融汇？

jetsetter:

whao, still talking abt this VERY FAMOUS AND WIDELY KNOWN Chinese 谜语/fable？thought already settled it's (3) - the LIGHT?


Thought I said it's a riddle that my mum read to me in the early 80s liao? It's the \"Fable of the Clever 翰愈\" that kids in China all know darn well lah...No need to argue abt the answer. It is (3).

http://wuxizazhi.cnki.net/Article/JYSX200711035.html

Of course, it's not fair if you dun have uber cheena parents like mine to read you fables or riddles at bedtime. But if you read the HIGHLIGHTED phrase by KSP, that's the dead giveaway what...

Logical deduction:
Kid buys candle to light up ->light immediately lights up room -> teacher is happy ->teacher says kid bought the right thing (that can fill up room in first para).

There's no 语病. This is called 创新思维 by the PRC educators. Kids must make logical inference from the CONTEXT. Dun just glean for KEYWORDS in passage, cos KEYWORDS dun always provide the answers.

What you (and your link) are saying is what can fill up the room..


But what we are into now, is, what makes the teacher 高兴的笑了....


It's two different thing...

Comprehension :imanangel:

That’s why I have the nagging doubt that the said passage in the picture posted by C2 is not the entire passage… there ought to be more that’s not shown in the snap shot…


Else, I can only say, the best answer is 4; despite of its poor wording… however it did answered (to what made the the teacher pleased.)

1girl1boy:

Is this the reason why parents need to engage tutors, who are familiar with the thoughts of the setters of such questions?

Not sure about how the tutor teach Chinese Comprehension, I don't have any for my children.

But, lets explore what is the key to a piece of comprehension-- 贯通融汇。

The objective is let the readers understand the \"story\" just by reading the questions and answers alone, without the need of reading the passage itself...

(well, maybe for SG Chinese standard, this will only happens in high school Higher Chinese. )

metz:

KSP:

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The teacher is happy because candle light can brighten the whole room.

让我们来想一想：老师笑了是因为买来的蜡烛在点燃后，烛光能照亮房间 ， 还是因为买来的蜡烛在点燃后，烛光能装满房间呢?

The highlighted in red.

Obviously after reading the passage, no one will mistaken that simply because the candle lit up the room that makes the teacher happy, but it's more to that the candle emitting the light that is able to achieve the core purpose of this whole project -- \"filling up the room\" (effortlessly).

KSP:

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The teacher is happy because candle light can brighten the whole room.

老师说翰愈买对了，因为烛光使房间明亮。--- like Metz had posted, this sentence 存在嚴重的語病，it's an incomplete sentence... every comprehension answer (combined with question) must be able to form a complete sentence that assuming a third party that have not read the short passage be able to comprehend/make sense out of reading it... in comprehension, every question and its answer should be a 完整的敘述.

况且老師說「买对了」is quite apparent that (candle is the right choice because) it met the purpose of \"filling up the room\" (when lit up) ; and not just because the candle lit up the room....

Accepting this type of 語病 would defeat the purpose of a comprehension.

ChiefKiasu:

Harlequin:

Chief, I thought of the same too, for the truly gifted, they shouldn't be tested with mainstream exams, instead they should be put under mentorship ... if we truly want to nurture the giftedness.

But of course, this may not be well received, or even viewed positively by the society as a whole.

For those who see the GEP only as a quick step to IP->University, they will not view these changes positively. But if they are serious about grooming their children to become world-class talents, this is a more effective way that directly meet their objectives. The Chinese recognise this with their sports talents. They are talent-scouted at a very young age and groomed with the sole objective of winning championships. This gives them the best chance to fully exploit these talents. We can argue about the ethical implication of this, but I think it is hard to deny the results.

But imagine. If a young child with a capable and keen mind and interest in astro-physics gets to work with Albert Einstein from an early age, how much progress do we think the child can achieve by the time he is in his teens? Or if a gifted child is particularly interested in the finance industry and gets to work with top bankers? Instead of having to muck through subjects that he finds useless and boring, he gets to spend his energy in things he likes, which gives him greater and deeper appreciation of the field.

Of course I don't kid myself about the feasibility of doing something like this within the current cultural and political environment. It sounds extreme by today's standards; yet this is common during the middle ages, practiced by guilds which are essentially centres of excellence. I strongly believe that this is the best way to groom gifted children.

:goodpost: .... whenever I read about GEP discussion here in various threads, this is what always come to mind -- they should be given a truly specialized academic path tailored to groom their giftedness.