Dazzle:

sophieblues:

ACS(I) IB COP is 256 (called sch)

Mine got 256 but did not get in. Perhaps because not Singaporean

The t-score goes to several decimal places. So even though 2 with same integer t-score, are actually different in MOE database. Suggest you appeal. I know of those who were originally rejected (right on COP, even 1 lower) but made it on appeal. There's still movement after the posting results. Also, there's a good number of places for second chance at IB based on Sec 2 year end results which I believe is restricted to current ACSI students (not outsiders). So have to get in first.

Dazzle:

sophieblues:

ACS(I) IB COP is 256 (called sch)

Mine got 256 but did not get in. Perhaps because not Singaporean

The t-score goes to several decimal places. So even though 2 with same integer t-score, are actually different in MOE database. Suggest you appeal. I know of those who were originally rejected (right on COP, even 1 lower) but made it on appeal. There's still movement after the posting results.

hoskins8h:

jtoh:

I didn't realize the number of students taking PSLE in 2009 was 49,856, higher than the Dragon year cohort this year.


My predictions:
1) COP for top tier IP schools will go up.
2) COP for other IP schools will remain about the same or go down minimally bec of the increase in IP places with the intro of new IP schools.

Think COP for HCI, RGS, RI up 2 and NYG likely up 2.
Just follow EESIS, it has the best characteristics for predicting the top COPs.

Tomorrow the speculation on the top end non-affliated cut-offs (e.g. RGS,RI, HCI,) will be revealed. My bet is on the EESIS as indicator as this cutoff is for the top X number of students (since the number of places in indepedent schools hasnt changed much in past few years, and my estimate is about 1100-1200 EESIS awards are given). This removes some of the uncertainty across different years due to different number of PSLE students, difficulty of PSLE (harder generally means higher highest t-scores ie those mentioned in newspapers), and distribution of t-scores (PSLE 2009 had many higher top scores, but lower EESIS).

rains:

hoskins8h:

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In 2011, the average t score of NYPS was 238.9. 45.96% (including gep) got 250 and above. Quality passes for English was 89.4%, Chinese was 96.2%, maths was 81.1%, science was 82.2%.

Thanks rains, do you happen to have the average t-score for 2010 and 2009?

Mean t-score for:

2009 - 238.2
2010 - 240.4

Some people were surprised that ny has 47% of its students getting 250 and above this year, but actually ny's record is such that it has more than 40% of its students getting 250 and above every year, even 7 years ago when I was trying to decide if ny was indeed a 'good' school. But that doesn't mean that it does not have students who go to Normal stream.[/quote]rains, many thanks, really appreciate it.

mummy so kiasu:

rains:

In 2011, the average t score of NYPS was 238.9. 45.96% (including gep) got 250 and above. Quality passes for English was 89.4%, Chinese was 96.2%, maths was 81.1%, science was 82.2%.

Does the school push the average kids by giving them extra lessons? My brother said that his son from NYPS will do better than my son who is from a neighbourhood school. Is he being practical to say that his son will get into Hwa Chong if the boy only get B for all 4 subjects?

Not sure which neighbourhood school you're talking about, but there is definitely some truth in what you brother says. The standard in the top schools is high. In my DC's school, 60 in English for some term exams would be a PSLE A.

rains:

In 2011, the average t score of NYPS was 238.9. 45.96% (including gep) got 250 and above. Quality passes for English was 89.4%, Chinese was 96.2%, maths was 81.1%, science was 82.2%.

Thanks rains, do you happen to have the average t-score for 2010 and 2009?

rains:

bupashu:

hearsay that this year got 40% scoring between 240 to 249

so got 87.7% scoring from 240 or higher ! now which school comes close this this ?

I'm quite keen to know where the source of the hearsay comes from. The school didn't reveal the number of students scoring 240 and above. Unless it's a teacher from Nyps who says it, I'm not going to believe it. The school's average t-score is 239. If 87% scored 240 and above, the average should be higher than 239, I thought.

Rains, do you happen to have percentage of quality passes (A/A*) for NYPS 2012? Do you know 2011 average?

jtoh:

I didn't realize the number of students taking PSLE in 2009 was 49,856, higher than the Dragon year cohort this year.


My predictions:
1) COP for top tier IP schools will go up.
2) COP for other IP schools will remain about the same or go down minimally bec of the increase in IP places with the intro of new IP schools.

Think COP for HCI, RGS, RI up 2 and NYG likely up 2.
Just follow EESIS, it has the best characteristics for predicting the top COPs.

anxious father:

Will COPs of HCI, NJC, RVHS, RI and DHS go up or down?


Here are the background information of their PLSE COP (Lower), Upper and Median. I use EESIS (COP of top 3%) as the reference.

Note: I got the pupil numers, Lower, Upper and Median of each school from MOE and EESIS from this forum.
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HCI (includes HML)
Year\t Pupil\tLower\tUpper\tMedian\tEESIS
2008/2009\t49,856\t259\t283\t263\t263\t
2009/2010\t48,541\t257\t281\t261\t261
2010/2011\t45,049\t257\t273\t260\t260
2011/2012\t45,261\t258\t274\t261\t260
2012/2013\t48,333\t?\t?\t?\t262

NJC
Year\t Pupil\tLower\tUpper\tMedian\tEESIS
2008/2009\t49,856\t259\t278\t261\t263\t
2009/2010\t48,541\t257\t281\t260\t261
2010/2011\t45,049\t257\t266\t259\t260
2011/2012\t45,261\t258\t269\t259\t260
2012/2013\t48,333\t?\t?\t?\t262

RVHS (includes HML)
Year\t Pupil\tLower\tUpper\tMedian\tEESIS
2008/2009\t49,856\t254\t272\t257\t263\t
2009/2010\t48,541\t251\t274\t256\t261
2010/2011\t45,049\t253\t275\t256\t260
2011/2012\t45,261\t254\t270\t257\t260
2012/2013\t48,333\t?\t?\t?\t262

RI
Year\t Pupil\tLower\tUpper\tMedian\tEESIS
2008/2009\t49,856\t262\t284\t267\t263\t
2009/2010\t48,541\t259\t283\t265\t261
2010/2011\t45,049\t259\t275\t263\t260
2011/2012\t45,261\t261\t273\t264\t260
2012/2013\t48,333\t?\t?\t?\t262

DHS (includes HML)
Year\t Pupil\tLower\tUpper\tMedian\tEESIS
2008/2009\t49,856\t260\t282\t262\t263\t
2009/2010\t48,541\t258\t285\t261\t261
2010/2011\t45,049\t257\t275\t260\t260
2011/2012\t45,261\t256\t273\t259\t260
2012/2013\t48,333\t?\t?\t?\t262
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Opinion 1: The COPs to these top IP schools will go up as
1) There are more pupils than last year (but it is comparable to 2009/2010).
2) There is higher EESIS this year

Opinion 2: The COPs to some of these top IP schools maight go down as there are most IP schools and they may more or less attract some of the top scorers (T-score>260)

What is your opinion?

Follow EESIS for the HCI, RI, ie keep the same difference as predictor.

forevernikon:

keroppi:

Correct & it's on dual track (IP & Os). Once you gained entry, it's almost guaranteed 10-12 years of no-worry. Can relax a little for PSLE.

Some more it's a full school so you get a longer Nov/Dec holiday than everyone else

Thanks to Luanee & Keroppi for above explanation on differences of MGS over RGPS.

Actually, I was referring to the post on various academic % quality score comparison made by phtthp (In Novena thread on comparing SCGS against various GEP schools) but do not see MGS pit against RGPS.

Appreciate to know if there are comparison made.

TIA

Here you go:
EL Math Sci CL2
2011\tMGS\t91.2%\t75.4%\t83.3%\t94.2%
2011\tRGPS \t85.3%\t74.2%\t73.5%\t91.5%

Actually the mean t-scores of both schools not that different for 2011. MGS's is peculiar in that the percentages suggests a higher mean t-score than what is acheived; it's like MGS girls just want to make the grade but dont care that much about getting a high score.