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    • RE: General Election 2015

      Why would I be gone for good?


      I have many insightful things to talk about General election 2015!

      More powerful insights are coming!

      May be those who can't provide constructive discussions about GE should just refrain from talking other nonsense so as not to pollute this thread?

      And I have no idea why in the view of the lesser immortals (to borrow the words of \"Charles Chong\", the PAP candidate standing for election in Punggol East SMC), that just because we criticise the government policies, we are bitter, we are losers, our kids can't get into GEPs, etc.

      Anyway, I will be sending my children to either US or UK for their University education (even if they are able to study in Singapore universities) because I believe that an overseas education will open up their minds, and they will not become a toad in the well, just like I have seen the world.... I was told that a 4-years education in US cost US$400,000 or more now? Ok, that is fine with me.........

      And also to let you know, despite the high rankings of Singapore Universities, they are just playing a ranking game. Singapore universities are just not right at the top there yet in the world. I know they can develop system to play such ranking game very well, just like the super high PISA score, but they are useless when they cannot produce adults of excellence. Otherwise the scholars and all those Ministers children won't mostly go overseas for their University education already...

      You can say that I am boosting now, but that is fine with me, I know where I stand, and all those personal character attacks by all you these GEP kids' parents are useless to me because I have seen the world and I am not a toad in the well........ Are you? :boogie:


      janet88:
      JannettLee:

      I was distracted to discuss this GEP thingy again! I'm only interested to talk about GE Election 2015. here. Please don't distract me :razz:

      This will be my last posting on Education System and do not bug me again on the GEP.
      As I don't wish to go through the details of Finland's education system and the GEP system here.

      When you said this is your last post here, I thought you are gone for good. After all, you have been harping on how good Finland's system is and being so bitter about the government. It might be a good idea for you to renounce your citizenship here and migrate to the land of Nokia.

      posted in Recess Time
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      JannettLee
    • RE: General Election 2015

      Janet,


      READ MY post again and then repeat for three times. Did I say this is my posting here? or I said this is my posting on education system? READ your question carefully! :roll:

      janet88:
      JannettLee:

      I was distracted to discuss this GEP thingy again! I'm only interested to talk about GE Election 2015. here. Please don't distract me :razz:

      This will be my last posting on Education System and do not bug me again on the GEP.
      As I don't wish to go through the details of Finland's education system and the GEP system here.

      When you said this is your last post here, I thought you are gone for good. After all, you have been harping on how good Finland's system is and being so bitter about the government. It might be a good idea for you to renounce your citizenship here and migrate to the land of Nokia.

      posted in Recess Time
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      JannettLee
    • RE: General Election 2015

      Actually, I also don't know why PAP keep harping on AHPETC financial accounts issue...


      If AHPETC financial accounts and handling are \"clearly illegal\", and there are misappropriation of money and/or fake accounting, the auditors would have reported/flaged this as \"criminal offence\" directly to CPIB/CAD (without needing to consult AHPETC), and the Town Council Chairman would be charged in Court straight away. (This had happened to a few publicly listed companies before). This is as clear as the sky, no need to argue so much.

      On the other hand, the PAP Town councils lost $19 MILLIONS in total in risky equity-linked investments, and they have not explained why they can do so? They are not investment managers, they are not entrusted to generate higher returns from the reserves, they are not trained to manage investment risks, why then they invest Town Councils' funds in risky quity-linked investments?

      As somebody who had managed MCSTs before, we clearly know that we cannot put the estates' money entrusted to our management into any risky investments, and equity-linked investments is clearly \"risky\" in categorization. And don't tell me the banks didn't tell them?
      In the few cases I encountered at different banks, the banks' employees did tell me upfront that the structured deposits is linked to non-default of the linked equities, so I would believe that the banks had told them too. The fact that MAS did not charge the banks means that the banks did not wrong here given that they had already told us upfront that the structured deposits are linked to equities (and hence is \"risky\" in nature, no matter how low the risk is).

      Till now, no PAP Town Council Chairmen has come out to tell their residents what they are going to do with these lost money? Are their residents supposed to absorb these $19 MILLIONS losses because their \"mismanagement\"?

      sushi88:
      pirate:

      [quote=\"jetsetter\"]PAP only need to target this TC message at 10% swing voters. They know pp like Pirate's mind is fixed hence they are not interested in converting them! once enuff of WPs antics, some voters might just swing home.

      PAP need to find a simple and easy to understand way to get around the latest $1.65m surplus after government grant for the latest FY. This is actually a striking turnaround. I was expecting (from statements put out by WP about the grants and sinking fund transfers) only a modest surplus of at most $400k.

      It is a delicate exercise that can boomerang and result in a swing to the WP instead if not done properly because voters can perceive it as not just bullying, but using state resources to bully if it is done wrong. I don't think PAP anticipated the \"surplus\" number and are still working on getting their heads around it. It is a 'back to the drawing board' kind of number and I don't think PAP has a Plan B for taking Aljunied. The MSM reported it as though it was just a say-so by SL. Actually, it is not. It is in the financial statements at note 30.
      [quote]30. Events occurring after the reporting period

      At the end of the financial year, the Government Grants for S&CC for the financial year amounting to S$7,191,770 which would ordinarily have been disbursed in April 2014 was still being withheld by Ministry of National Development. According to court papers filed by the Ministry in the High Court in March 2015 in Originating Summons 250 of 2015, Town Council's Grant for FY 2014/15 consisted of S$4,890,202 for Operating Funds and S$2,301,568 for Sinking Funds.

      The withholding of the Government Grants for S&CC resulting in Town Council showing deficit for the year of $3,238,496. If the Government Grant for S&CC had been paid to Town Council, the position for the year would be a surplus of S$1,651,706.

      As for the accumulated position, the withholding of the Government Grant for S&CC results in an accumulated deficit of S$4,693,250. If the Grant had been disbursed, AHPETC's accumulated position would have been a surplus of S$196,952.

      At the date of issuance of financial statements, the Grant for FY 2014/15 had still not been disbursed to Town Council.

      And no, note 30 is not a political statement inserted into the financial statements for the benefit of WP. Note 30 is actually required under FRS 10.

      What is interesting is that while WP has promptly put its 2014/15 financial statements online immediately on 31 August, the PAP TCs have yet to do so. Let's see if they leave it till near polling day. :evil:[/quote]What surplus $1.65m?? I thought FMSS just claimed AHPETC owe them $3.5m? Confusing or creative accounting? :?

      Edit to answer my own question:
      I found the answer given by SL...but she gives a feeling that she still has a lot to hide. Monies seems to move to and fro from AHPETC to FMSS and vice versa. First time I see a supplier has to keep moving money back to customer, one sum after another (in red). Why did AHPETC not check invoices properly before they pay? HONESTLY, I find all these overly baffling. Even if there is no fraud involved, they are super sub-standard in operating processes.

      ********************************************
      Workers' Party (WP) chairman Sylvia Lim yesterday confirmed that the party's town council had received a legal demand for $3.5 million from its former managing agent, but insisted this would not hit its bottom line.

      She said the amount demanded was for fees related to projects handled by the managing agent, and linked to the town council's sinking fund expenditure. But she declined to give further details, citing confidentiality agreements.

      The New Paper reported yesterday that FM Solutions and Services (FMSS) sent a letter of demand to Aljunied-Hougang-Punggol East Town Council (AHPETC) to say the latter owed it more than $3.5 million for services provided between April and July 14. The letter was dated July 20, six days after the managing agent's contract with the town council ended on July 14.

      After receiving the letter, AHPETC then did its own checks and withheld payment as it had \"some questions about those claims\", Ms Lim said.

      The town council had also reportedly tried earlier to recoup $250,000 from FMSS, a sum it then raised to $450,000.

      Yesterday, WP chairman Sylvia Lim downplayed the matter - which will go before mediators in October - saying it will not affect AHPETC's bottom line.

      \"We can confirm that we received this letter but this is actually quite old news because it has been overtaken by events... Most of the claims are related to the current financial year 2015/2016, and a substantial portion is related to sinking fund payments. So they do not actually impact on the routine funds,\" she said. Money in a town council's sinking fund is earmarked for long- term and cyclical projects, such as upgrading works.

      Ms Lim also said that the town council had since paid off a substantial part of the $3.5 million amount and that the disputed sum will \"not actually affect the bottom line in terms of surplus and deficit of the accounts\".

      News of the dispute broke two days after the Ministry of National Development (MND) released figures to show that there had been, in its words, \"gross profiteering\" on the part of FMSS from its only client, AHPETC.

      Asked yesterday if her town council felt it had overpaid FMSS, Ms Lim replied: \"A large part of the disputed claims is actually concerning projects which are a different kind of claim as compared to a claim for managing agent monthly rates. It is not connected with us looking (at) or reviewing the managing agent rates. It's not the case at all.\"

      FMSS had been authorised to act as a project manager for the town council. When the firm handled projects, it was allowed to claim a percentage of the project value as additional fees, above and beyond its managing agent fees, said Ms Lim, adding that that was also the case at other town councils.

      For now, both parties are headed for mediation in October to resolve the issue, said Ms Lim, adding that the case will not go to court.

      On whether the WP had briefed its new candidates on the issue, Ms Lim said: \"This is one of the matters that we're sorting out with our contractors under a process that's already been agreed, so we do not see why this should concern the new candidates because everything is according to our agreement.\"

      She was also asked why AHPETC had not made public the matter earlier, given the large amount involved. She cited the confidentiality agreement, adding: \"It's just a letter of demand. People can demand things, but whether they are legitimate or not and to what extent, that is another question altogether.\"

      - See more at: http://news.asiaone.com/news/general-el ... dtw31.dpuf[/quote]

      posted in Recess Time
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      JannettLee
    • RE: General Election 2015

      I was distracted to discuss this GEP thingy again! I'm only interested to talk about GE Election 2015. here. Please don't distract me :razz:


      This will be my last posting on Education System and do not bug me again on the GEP.
      As I don't wish to go through the details of Finland's education system and the GEP system here.

      To put the record straight, if you wish to let your GEPPER kid to cramp more and continue with the outdated and 1 size GEP program fits all GEPPERs in 9 GEP schools, by all means, you go ahead. I analysed the GEP system for a few years and convinced that this system is not going to nurture your kids to their best potential. If yes, how can it be I size fits all (same syllabus, same exams, same projects, and not all teachers really knows how to run the programs for all GEPPERS!)? Can't bear to see how the gifted kids got waste like this! What can I say if their own parents chose to? :gloomy: :slapshead: 🤷



      Enough said! Wish all your gifted kids blossom like a flower, hopefully if I happened to teach anyone of the GEPEPS oversea, I will not be so stunned like vegetable. Parents, you are un..un..unbelievable! :sick:

      posted in Recess Time
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      JannettLee
    • RE: General Election 2015

      Yes I get you, spend so much money on GEP suppose to groom GEP kids into excellent adults but yet they are not excellence, and cannot even produce even one Nobel Prize winner,

      so Government no choice lor, got to pay almost $1 Million salary to employ Nobel Prize winners to come to Singapore to work.......... :yikes:

      metz2:
      JannettLee:


      Tell you lah, give you and GEP 50 more years (making GEP programme 81 years old) and Singapore will NEVER EVER be able to produce a Nobel Prize winner (unless Singapore's education system has been revamped)! You can mark my word for it!

      You are seriously thinking GEP is suppose to produce Nobel Prize Winners? You can stop dreaming about it.

      Firstly, GEP is not even about producing Nobel Prize Winners. Where did you get the idea?

      Secondly, how can one expect a mere 3-year programme for kids under 12 to produce Nobel Prize Winners? That's an insult to Nobel Laureates.

      posted in Recess Time
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      JannettLee
    • RE: General Election 2015

      3Boys,

      Didn't I caught you telling lies previously?


      Now you alleged that I am telling lies? Oh no no!!!!!! :imdrowning:

      Tell you lah, give you and GEP 50 more years (making GEP programme 81 years old) and Singapore will NEVER EVER be able to produce a Nobel Prize winner (unless Singapore's education system has been revamped)! You can mark my word for it! :boogie:

      3Boys:
      JannettLee:

      I just need to see a good education system that can produce kids who grow up as adults who can become excellence and famous in the world.

      After 30+ years of GEP programme, and throwing so much more money and resources to them (vs other kids) and unfair priorities and privilege (which people like you claim is needed to produce people of excellence), so has the system produce people of excellence and a Nobel Prize winner?

      30+ years of experience is already a long enough time to tell us GEP education system is a big failure!

      [quote=\"3Boys\"]
      If the Finnish education system is so great, why hasn't Sweden copied them?

      If the Finnish education system is so great, why hasn't Norway copied them? Or Denmark? Or Germany? Or France? Or UK?

      You parrot one side of the story without looking at other angles, you laud PISA then you diss PISA. You have absolutely no consistency to your position except resentment for 1% of students who take up 2% of resources as opposed to 99% of the students who take up 98% of resources.

      That is the only basis for you to call for us to completely upend our education system, without thought or regard for the consequences or whether we can even transplant the system. And when presented with this simple logical truth, all you can say is \"I don't care, we pay them so much, they better solve it for US.\"

      Except that US is not US, its YOU. I.e. you want them to dismantle the GEP system just to make you feel better.

      As usual, you continue to parrot inanities and ignore countervailing arguments. Since you go on about Finland, why haven't Sweden, Denmark, Norway, U.S., UK, France, Germany, New Zealand adopted them?

      There's a simple answer......they're not Finland. Failure to adopt Finland's education system is not a failure of policy, like you so claim. All for what? An additional 1% of overall education resources, the source of your resentment.

      And no, they don't need to campaign based on your false narrative, they can campaign on the fact that we have an excellent education where our children do very well on international standardized tests, another fact you have wilfully ignored every time it's brought up.

      30 years of GEP without a Nobel Prize? Tell me, what is the average age of a Nobel prize recipient in Science areas? Do you know?
      It's 55 for Physics, 58 for Chemistry and Medicine.

      What's the age of the very first group of GEPpers?

      What a big fat lie you tell when you condemn the whole system when it's not even had time to run it's course.[/quote]

      posted in Recess Time
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      JannettLee
    • RE: General Election 2015

      I just need to see a good education system that can produce kids who grow up as adults who can become excellence and famous in the world.


      After 30+ years of GEP programme, and throwing so much more money and resources to them (vs other kids) and unfair priorities and privilege (which people like you claim is needed to produce people of excellence), so has the system produce people of excellence and a Nobel Prize winner?

      30+ years of experience is already a long enough time to tell us GEP education system is a big failure!

      3Boys:
      JannettLee:

      Please do not any how ham tam lah!

      Singaporean Scientist Dr Wong Poh Poh awarded Nobel Peace Prize in 2007 ???
      If so, the Singapore government would have already awarded him honorary citizenship or similar accolades!

      2 Questions:

      1) Wasn't an acclaimed Scientist suppose to get Nobel Prize in \"Science\" instead of in \"Peace\"?
      Ironic isn't it?

      2) Please tell us where is Dr Wong Poh Poh's name on the official website of \"Nobel Prizes and Laureates\"?
      To make thing simpler for you, I include the link here:
      http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/

      Can include the link in your reply so that all of us can get amazed or \"entertained\"?

      Don't any how plug \"information\" or \"mis-information\" from the internet lah!
      If you don't know how to use internet, better don't use (don't anyhow quote)! Lots of fake information or mis-information on the internet! Use with responsibility please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :siam:

      Oh before I go, I can bet that if Singapore don't revamp its education system, I can give it another 30 years or even 50 years of its unfair and specially-privileged GEP education system and it will still NEVER BE ABLE to produce a Nobel Prize winner in Science! You can mark my word for it!

      Meanwhile, Finland will continue to generate more Nobel Prize winners and successful start-ups that go on to become multi-national companies that are able to create high-paying jobs for their residents............

      They don't know that their failure to produce people of great excellence compared to others in the world is in their education system??????
      If they don't know, then I am saying loudly here, don't say we NEVER TELL THEM!

      If the Finnish education system is so great, why hasn't Sweden copied them?

      If the Finnish education system is so great, why hasn't Norway copied them? Or Denmark? Or Germany? Or France? Or UK?

      You parrot one side of the story without looking at other angles, you laud PISA then you diss PISA. You have absolutely no consistency to your position except resentment for 1% of students who take up 2% of resources as opposed to 99% of the students who take up 98% of resources.

      That is the only basis for you to call for us to completely upend our education system, without thought or regard for the consequences or whether we can even transplant the system. And when presented with this simple logical truth, all you can say is \"I don't care, we pay them so much, they better solve it for US.\"

      Except that US is not US, its YOU. I.e. you want them to dismantle the GEP system just to make you feel better.

      posted in Recess Time
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      JannettLee
    • RE: General Election 2015

      PM is standing for election in all constituencies? :rotflmao:

      dimsum:
      Why are PM posters displayed islandwide this year?

      posted in Recess Time
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      JannettLee
    • RE: General Election 2015

      It is not 1 of the aim of the Singapore Government to educate and produce excellence in Science? Who say so?

      Then why Singapore Government spent so much money to try to get Nobel Prize winners to Singapore to work and give lectures and even mentor our students??? :siao:
      Why Singapore Government spent so much money giving out Research scholarships to do their PhD, including even to so many foreigners? 🤷

      Why GEP selection screening 1 of the test is on Math you also don't know?
      How come you don't know strong capability in Math is the most basic foundation towards research in Physics and Chemistry? Or you are not up to that level yet? šŸ˜†

      What you said contradicted what Singapore Government is doing right? What I can say is that only 1 of you can be right.
      In that case, either Singapore Government must be so damned stupid to \"throw\" so much money away to these Nobel Prize winners or the reverse is true? :siao:

      sushi88:
      I hear nothing but noise inside a box.

      Nobel Prize definition for you:

      The Nobel Peace Prize (Norwegian and Swedish: Nobels fredspris) is one of the five Nobel Prizes created by the Swedish industrialist, inventor, and armaments manufacturer Alfred Nobel, along with the prizes in Chemistry, Physics, Physiology or Medicine, and Literature

      Enuff said.....because self-limiting thoughts is the first step to close your own door. Do not blame others for closing the door, maybe the door needs to install a mirror on it.

      I did not know GEP promised Science studies or only Science... :scratchhead: Hmmm...was Science ever tested during screening... :scratchhead:

      Oh I do not need a reply. Thank you. šŸ˜„
      JannettLee:
      Please do not any how ham tam lah!

      Singaporean Scientist Dr Wong Poh Poh awarded Nobel Peace Prize in 2007 ???
      If so, the Singapore government would have already awarded him honorary citizenship or similar accolades!

      2 Questions:

      1) Wasn't an acclaimed Scientist suppose to get Nobel Prize in \"Science\" instead of in \"Peace\"?
      Ironic isn't it?

      2) Please tell us where is Dr Wong Poh Poh's name on the official website of \"Nobel Prizes and Laureates\"?
      To make thing simpler for you, I include the link here:
      http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/laureates/

      Can include the link in your reply so that all of us can get amazed or \"entertained\"?

      Don't any how plug \"information\" or \"mis-information\" from the internet lah!
      If you don't know how to use internet, better don't use (don't anyhow quote)! Lots of fake information or mis-information on the internet! Use with responsibility please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :siam:

      Oh before I go, I can bet that if Singapore don't revamp its education system, I can give it another 30 years or even 50 years of its unfair and specially-privileged GEP education system and it will still NEVER BE ABLE to produce a Nobel Prize winner in Science! You can mark my word for it!

      Meanwhile, Finland will continue to generate more Nobel Prize winners and successful start-ups that go on to become multi-national companies that are able to create high-paying jobs for their residents............

      They don't know that their failure to produce people of great excellence compared to others in the world is in their education system??????
      If they don't know, then I am saying loudly here, don't say we NEVER TELL THEM!
      sushi88:

      Who quoted Pisa report first as a benchmark and now only selectively you take what you want? šŸ˜†

      Sorry to disappoint you again....we have a Nobel Prize Winner back in 2007.
      Singaporean scientist Dr Wong Poh Poh who was awarded at age 61.
      We are so modest people that we do not blow the trumpet so loud. šŸ˜‚
      http://www.fas.nus.edu.sg/geog/news/nobelprize_wpp.htm

      Also, just checked, NP winner average age is 59 and mode is 60-64.
      GEP is 30 years old. The oldest GEPPER is at most 39-40 years old only if you still have expectations of GEPPERs becoming a NP winner. My point is you want to blast GEPPERs and you do not have the facts to do it.

      :rotflmao: Please do your homework next time.

      I am clear we educate kids to be useful people to the society so that they can care and contribute to the society when they grow up using the best of their talents and abilities that education can help them to unleash...not for the purpose of becoming a Nobel Prize winner. Sorry to disappoint you again. You want less stress like the Finland system yet you have super high expectations, it seems that the 2 does not go hand in hand very well, unfortunately. šŸ˜‚ That is the reason why you are full of acrimonious views on various systems in SG. Take it easy on your blood pressure. I value keeping my blood pressure in check.

      FYI, we have very brilliant people sitting n A*STAR. They may not be Nobel Prize Winners (yet) but every practical invention they make is far more priceless to the society than just being a NP winner.

      As for kids being so brilliant in the Pisa test and so measured in their tones about their school, I say the kids are good thinkers with good virtue which is essential to doing big things in life. But I believe they speak what they feel, kids are less complex. We should learn from the kids, sometimes they are our best teachers.

      PS: I did not say NP are prima donnas, I say our education system is for everyone with common component and various options to unleash their potential. The goal is not to produce a few excellent stars as prima donnas. If there happen to be a few such stars, it is a bonus. Even GEP is not to do that but to ensure the child's potential is fully unleashed with the right approach.

      [quote=\"JannettLee\"]Let's be clear about it: We educate kids for what?
      So that our kids score brilliantly in just kids' exams so that our Education Ministers or you can blow trumpet about it, but when they grow up they cannot prove to be excellence of anything compared to say Finland kids (that you want to compare with)?
      And furthermore, >90% of Singapore kids have tuitions, while the Finnish said that tuition is basically unheard of in Finland, and is really out of the norm!

      And Nobel Prize is \"prima donnas\"? Wow!

      Singapore has been trying to use lots of money to \"buy\" some Nobel Prize winners over to Singapore! Why you are ignorant about this fact?
      Why Singapore Government need to do so?
      Precisely because Singapore education system (especially the highly failed GEP sytem!) has failed to produce any Nobel Prize winner!!!!!!

      As to the happiness score, it is subjective. 1 thing I am sure is our kids tend to tell the \"good thing\" because they have been taught not to openly say bad things about their schools.

      [/quote]

      posted in Recess Time
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      JannettLee
    • RE: General Election 2015

      I don't need, because I didn't ask for MILLIONS $$$ salary.........

      You have to ask those who collected the MILLIONS $$$ salary to solve the problem.........

      Obvious, you will try all means to argue that it is not a problem.
      Really not a problem? Why not you ask PAP to try out their General Election campaign slogan like:

      \"Vote PAP to support giving GEP programme more funding, privilege, and priorities!\". šŸ˜†

      Then, we will know how many Singaporeans really think GEP is a good system or not and whether most Singaporeans support or not..........

      3Boys:
      JannettLee:

      Funny, why can't mix the 2 (education and pay) together?

      Since you cannot understand, let me rephrase in simplistic words:

      We pay the Education Minister multiple MILLIONS $$$ of salary to fix education system, but he can't fix it, so, it is clear that there are 2 variables here:
      1) MILLIONS $$$ salary
      2) Terrible education system

      So simple you don't understand???? :rotflmao:

      Actually, you are not interested in fixing the education system.

      All you want is for them to make it the way YOU see fit. Unfortunately you haven't done one single thing to show why anyone should even listen to you on this issue.

      posted in Recess Time
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      JannettLee
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