There is a special place in Hell for this kind of person

pirated:

Church involvement to the detriment of school work and academic results is poor testimony and not honoring God

The vocation of a student is to study and do well in it, honor God and parents with good results

responsible church / cell leaders should put the priority right

yes, I agree with that too.

hello. I used to be a former church young person.


In church, there are a couple of things.

i.e
1) Church services. Weekly, held at the church premises. Probably last about 2 - 3hrs.

Sometimes as a variation of this, there are teenager services. They last about 1.5 hrs and are more teenage friendly.

2) Cell group. This is more typically weekly. Can be held anywhere. Basically it is a group of Christian young people gather together. Also last for 2-3 hrs. Each group has a cell leader, an older person (but still young) to oversee them. The cell leader reports to the youth pastor.

3) Special events - e.g. church conferences, etc. This is every few months and is like a gathering of the larger church community.

4) Sometimes, talk and chit chat. After church services, sometimes the teenagers would come together and hang out. Can be for hours.

5) Prayer meetings. Yes, sometimes prayer meeting can be held at wee hours of the morning. But I don't think teenagers need to attend. I could be wrong.

6) church camps. Can be held during holiday periods.

Church normally should encourage their teenagers to be responsible and obey their parents.

What I recommend.

1) speak to the cell leader. Phone call / face to face. Face to face may be better. In this way, there is a form of accountability, there would be others that are able to look out for your child. Cell leader would have the responsibility to update the parents of where the kid is going. Good to have a good relationship between the cell leader/ youth pastor. Some teenagers also abuse the privileges of going church by staying out late. We had a younger girl in our group once, we called her mother to update her of the whereabouts and sent her home to her doorstep at times when events ended too late.

2) as far as I am remember there is no consent form issued. Or rather I don't remember.

3) if you are so inclined, you may attend church service to see what it is like.... maybe once or twice.

What to look out for if church is really doing your kid any good.

1) Does the child obey you more? (Children are encouraged to obey their parents, it's written in the bible)

2) Is the child becoming more honest or respectful? Or behaves as though he has something to hide?

3) use of language: Does she/he use less swear words? (Believers are supposed to mind their language)

4) Tithing: Believers are supposed to tithe 10% of their income. This is a commandment. Not everyone follows it. Some say only working then need to tithe. Others say when get pocket money then tithe. (personally I only started tithing when I started working) Not all churches actively enforce this 10% (they believe it is between the person and God). What is enforcement? - Does someone from the church call your child if she didn't give 10% ? That's what to look out for. Above the tithe, there is something called pledges. Meaning lets say the church needs to do a new building or send missionaries to overseas and thus they need money. The person would then pledge to give this amount. I don't believe that church seniors should harass people into donating money though.

Teens can be foolish with their money and sometimes the church and parent may have some misunderstanding.

5) Also recommended that need to have a face to face and heart to heart talk with daughter.

if you want to know more, can pm me. I am interested to know what church.
but do update here because I don't check pm by default. = )

yes… noted.


parents are still in good health and have good faith and religion. They had talk to me briefly about this before

I believe they know where they would be going and they are not afraid. They also expressed they will miss their grandchild if this happens

insider:

Imami:

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Recently, when we were leaving her place, I thought she was tearing. :scared: dunno got see wrong or not.

Recently I sort of quite scared of my 'power' when I almost like quite accurately predicted the pass on of my dad and my father-in-law.

I just could sense their 阳气 depleting, from the way they talked as well as from the content that they talked about.

My sense was particularly accurate for my father in law when during one family dim sum lunch, he held my hands and thanked me for giving him three great grand kids.

After that lunch, I emailed my brother in law (my husband's brother) who is very close with me. I told him my feelings were quite bad and he better come home for his dad's coming birthday the following month (that he originally intended to skip coz of his busy overseas assignments). I warned him it could be his dad's last birthday but he brushed it off as I being sensitive.

He didn't return for the birthday and my father in law passed on about 2 months after his birthday...

So in a way, one can actually feel the Qi of an elderly and if you are 'sharp' enough, you can like 'predict' the 'approximate date'...

So, do continue to treat the old folks well!

oh my! OT a bit

you have that same power as that cat I saw in the news!

Just that that cat lives in a nursing home and can predict deaths down to several hours

he's so accurate to the point where if the nurses spot him sleeping on a patient, they will call the family

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/7129952/Cat-predicts-50-deaths-in-RI-nursing-home.html

for your reading pleasure

buds:

Stay in the room... in yer birthday suit... aircon full blast... keep refilling

yer icy cool glass with lotsa coke. I'm doin it now actually. Hee.

These days i take a few showers a day too. Sweltering hot man.
Just returned from bank just now. A teenaged girl fainted in the
bank, must be the extreme heat. Hope she is fine now.

erm right. no.

shower more frequently will do.

anyway turn on aircon at times.

stay in shopping malls. dispose of kid at indoor playground place

Dreamgear:

What brand is that?

start with B

ngl2010:

ChiefKiasu:

[quote=\"ngl2010\"]I have been having thoughts about branded goods for sometimes. My mom refused to buy branded goods although she can well afford them. She said she feels guilty as this money can be donated to help other people (she did donate to individuals and charities).


So, is buying branded goods wrong?

There's nothing wrong with being frugal. In many cultures, especially like ours, it is a virtue. But there are many reasons for buying \"branded\" goods too. While they do carry an air of elitism and act as status symbols, branded goods usually carry with them high quality, durability and performance which are valued by those that can afford them. So to say that buying branded goods is a sin is also an oversimplification of the issue at hand.

A good bag may last 5 years but is the bag owner going to use it everyday for 5 years? I doubt so. So, I don't think we women buy branded bags/wallet/shoes for its quality, durability and performance. Maybe it is true for air-con, refridgerator, washing machine, etc. but definitely not for bags/wallets/shoes, etc.[/quote]aha

men are different

I wear my branded shoe for 5 yrs now

it is so comfortable

I hope to wear it for another 5 yrs

1 200 dollar pair of shoe that feels very good and last for 5 yrs may be just as good as a 40 dollar pair that last only for 1 yr

if I were you I’ll be quite flattered


it means your dd is good enough for people to actually want to ‘copy’

they cant keep it up forever so lighten up

can use edusave or not ah?


no point force student to buy but parent no $$