jetsetter:

mjl:
Agree with you this hairsplitting debate should stop. Btw, why should NYJC even compare itself with IPJCs? IPJCs consist of the top10% of PSLE students, but NYJC only takes in the rest of the O level track students with 6/7 points (not to mention some might have come in after the deduction of \"L1R5 bonus points\" for CLEP, affiliation and HMT).

With this sort of limitation, it is perfectly understandable NYJC can never hit 50-60% AAA/A, unlike IPJCs.

I guess others like myself feel that KSP is a good arena to discuss, dispute, clarify doubts and voice our sentiments over issues. It's natural that certain topics will escalate to more 'heated' arguments when forummers don't see eye to eye. Guess it's fine as long as there isn't any verbal bullying but instead helps in clarifying doubts which otherwise would remain misunderstood, misinterpreted or misled by many.
The fact that NYJC COP has reached a point to being close to VJC or at par with NJC makes it logical to compare NYJC with IPJCs. Some may feel that the COP is not justifiable (yet?) and hence some 'skeptical' discussions.

I understand that you have some sort of connections with the principal to hint that he has visited this KSP forum on several occasions. If he insists on remaining silent, then we can carry on with our debates, speculations or even suspicions, can't we?

Crester:

Nyjc has posted photos of their Top Honours students is 1 way of its fantastic A Level performance.

Please clarify your definition of Top Honours students and provide the link for the photos.
If you are referring to that debatable Honour roll awardees photo in FB, it would include both academic and non-academic achievers. It's misleading to refer them as proof of its 'fantastic A level performance'.

NYJC is certainly careful not to show photos to applaud the minimum 3H2 distinctions awardees or to reveal any kind of stats that will give away its true performance. Nothing wrong, just that it's a fact that there's no way to prove its 'fantastic' results and perhaps it's a smarter move than those which are more 'opened' in their report cards.

mindays:

I have doubts of last year's 3H2 distinction rates to be 31% (anyone can provide evidence eg. photos). TBH, a 14% increase could mean a 14% increase in magnitude of candidates, could mean increase in percentages.


From what I have gathered (you can ignore this if you feel that this content may not make you comfortable or if you do not believe it), the average UAS for the 2017 A level results is as follows:
(UAS Median)

HCI: 87.8
RI: 87.8

Mean UAS
TJC: 80 (confirm with the other TJC parents)
NYJC: probably more than 81 (since last year it was announced that it was 81+ I gather that there is bound to have improvements in this year as compared to the previous)

I agree that the 31% or 80/81 UAS may be overstated or understated figures.
It's good that you acknowledged that the above are debatable, especially for unofficial stats of TJC. Otherwise I will think that you are trying to draw potential pupils away from TJ to NY. :evil:

mindays:

In any case, what I feel matter most is how much the school value adds its students and if MOE did not scrap its policy to present awards to JCs which value add, we will get to see how well a school can mould the next generation

Another channel is for NY to show more statistics but somehow it is more secretive than other JCs in the same league of COP.

mindays:

MyMelborne:

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This is really nice photo! I tot the graduating cohort went up cuz there's no other students milling around.

I think your initial thought is right, ilovelaksa.
There's definitely a mistake in the facebook!
Ever see Honour Roll awardees carrying haversacks and slingbags up the stage to receive their awards?
Without any student milling around the supposedly busy hall, it suggests that the entire graduating cohort are Honour Roll awardees. How is that possible? :?
Or what is the standard of Honour Roll that 100% of the students can achieve?

Should you feel that there is a mistake, you can always drop a message to Nanyang JC's Facebook page. I am sure they will clarify any doubts you may have. Thereafter, you can share with us the information you gather. The people here will appreciate your kindness, instead of using words like \"definitely\" to prove something that's not definite yet.[/quote]Why should I risk exposing my privacy in FB for a mistake (intentional or unintentional) made by NY (official)? It's the defender's job to clarify. I am not sure if they will clarify my doubts anyway.

mjl:

My mistake is, I should have said 14% increase of 31 is 4.34 (not 4.34%).

I still think it makes more sense to add them, as increase of 14% over 31% is 45%. (It is more of English?)

Refer to below:
\"Indian students showed the most improvement over the last 10 years, with 98 per cent being eligible for these courses at secondary schools. This is an increase of 2.1 percentage points compared with the 95.9 per cent in 2006.\"
Source: http://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/education/students-faring-better-at-psle-o-levels-and-a-levels-over-last-decade-moe-study

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogzTEmVbvSw&app=desktop
From the video at 0:30s, NYJC principal said \"Our students who have gotten a mimimum of 3H2 distinctions with a pass in GP improved by 14%\". Nothing else is stated.
If 31% was last year's figure, then 35% will be the figure this year.

mjl:

mellory:

Hi hi I don't mean to join the discussion, just want to talk about the simple maths: 14% increase of 31 IS 35, not 45! (31x0.14)+31

If we are talking about a number not a %, yes 14% increase of 31 is 4.34%. However, if one is saying there is a 14% increase over the previous year's 31%, it makes more sense to add them.

mellory is definitely correct.

Let x be 31%
14% of x = 4.34.
Total will be x + 4.34 = 35.34
Unit of measure of x does not affect its computation.

Btw mjl, like to hear your fair view of the 'controversial' photo.

ilovelaksa:

IB mugger:

you may refer to the school's facebook. that photo was posted on 24/2/17.
https://www.facebook.com/Nanyangjc/photos/a.474474685899144.120622.471792049500741/1456125331067403/?type=3&theater

This is really nice photo! I tot the graduating cohort went up cuz there's no other students milling around.

I think your initial thought is right, ilovelaksa.
There's definitely a mistake in the facebook!
Ever see Honour Roll awardees carrying haversacks and slingbags up the stage to receive their awards?
Without any student milling around the supposedly busy hall, it suggests that the entire graduating cohort are Honour Roll awardees. How is that possible? :?
Or what is the standard of Honour Roll that 100% of the students can achieve?

Crester:

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The class of 2016 gave a fantastic performance in the A Level exam.
An overall improvement of 14% as compared to last year results.
:congrats:

Parents who are keen to know in details can make appointment with the Principa/VP to meet up.

After much discussions here, genuine intetested people can decide for themselves what to believe n not believe in. So no disastrous as nobody forces one to opt Nyjc. There are other resources people can depend on to decide a JC other than reading in this Forum which has become questionable.
Its last year brief 2015 A level results being told here is true as I was in college on that day. The rest of the issues i dont know.

At first, I was impressed with this picture posted above. I thought it was the number of pupils who scored at least 3H2 distinctions for class of 2016 during the recent A level results release.

But when I visited the nyjc official website, the photo only comes with a congratulatory note to class of 2015/16. I roughly counted and estimated that there were more than 500 pupils or perhaps 700 of them when I enlarged the photo using my hp.

The scene was repeated in the video you shared. I believe it's the entire cohort of about 700 graduands as some boys were seen carrying their haversacks or slingbag with them. You may estimate the number using the 'row by column' method.

Crester, please comment if this is a group photo of the entire 2015/16 cohort or is this the photo of pupils who have outstanding results and were invited to the stage?

Note: Not that I want to 'stir trouble' or doubt nyjc's results as the intake is of good COP but the information posted here is sometimes misleading unless one scrutinizes....

jetsetter:

You can PM him. Profile says: \"Education\" industry. :siam:

Good thinking. But I shall do it openly here instead of sending a private message.

Dear user by the name of lowchunmeng, if you are indeed the current NYJC principal, please step forward and answer my queries. ( Apologies if it sounds like ouija board)

1. Can you advise if you will share with the public regarding NYJC 2016 A level results which should be released in a few weeks time?

2. Why is it that only a handful of pupils/parents of this JC are able to get hold of certain 2015 statistics such as the % of distinction for Math, Chem, PW etc. How accurate are these information? Will you flash such stats in the hall on the day of results release?

3. Personally, I am interested to know the stats for 2015 and 2016 on
a. % of pupils who gets at least 3H2 distinctions with a pass in GP
b. average UAS (university admission score)
c. % of A & AB of all the individual subject offered against the national average (understand if it's not shown to public)
d. % of pupils who are eligible for local universities ( and what is the min indicative UAS if any)

Thanks in advance.