Praise:I saw this question a few weeks back using ratio to solve it
1) There are some black and white marbles in a bag. If 20 black marbles are removed from the bag, the total number of marbles left will be 7 times the number of black marbles left. If 50 white marbles are removed from the bag, the total number of marbles left will be 5 times the number of black marbles left. How many marbles are there in the bag?
case 1: 20 black removed
b:w
1:6
case 2: 50 white are removed
b:w
1:4
Solve
B:W
1:6
+20 -50
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1 : 4
Re-writing using common multiples
B:W
4:6
+80 -50
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4 : 4
2u-->130
u-->65
7u-->475
the complete solution was found here
http://www.onsponge.com/forum/35-thinkingmathonsponge/859-ratio.html#871