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    • RE: 2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)

      entei17\" post_id=\"1939792\" time=\"1570178140\" user_id=\"162440:

      jumpingjacks\" post_id=\"1939677\" time=\"1570118362\" user_id=\"56373:

      [quote=Iluvmygals post_id=1939672 time=1570115299 user_id=26453]I think the solutions by the tuition centers over complicate the questions.

      Just need to focus on the 2 semi circles by the side you will see the length. Don't need algebra, don't need shift the semi circles here and there.....simple circle properties will do.


      https://postimg.cc/bZpQGXVK

      Totally agree, the solutions presented so far are too complex. Don't use algebra or units & parts to confuse the kid. In fact, this qn does not involve any properties of circle either. You just need to see that the overlapping parts are of the same length then you can use logic to derive the other parts. Pls see my pic and logic here.

      1. The green line shows the part where the 2 semicircles overlap: they are of the same length on each of the semicircle.
      2. Hence, the orange lines must be the same length (i.e. 22cm) as the semicircles are identical.
      3. Thus, you can derive the purple part as 22-12=10

      Do the same for the other side (highlighted in pink) then you can add them to get 10 +16+10=36

      Hence the working can be done in just 2 or 3 lines.

      https://postimg.cc/TKbsrNmV

      I think your solution is still overly complicated. There is no need to shift the semi-circles nor visualize anything. The solution is just 3 lines, does not involve algebra and easier than model method:
      Top=Bottom
      3D + 12 + 12 = 2D +22 + 22 +16
      D = 36

      As for the triangle question part (c), the suggested solution by one of the tutor is overly complicated too, and he is a tutor! Primary school maths and national exams do not need rocket science to solve, to a certain extent,it extends to math olympiad questions too. So one additional heuristic should be added to the top of your tools, and that's the maxim \"PSLE question is meant to be easy, there has to be a shortcut somewhere.\"

      The solution for the triangle question part (c) is:
      Note that the difference between the white and grey triangles are 1, -2, 3, -4, 5, -6,....., 249, -250
      So there are 250 more grey triangles than white triangles
      So there are (62500-250) / 2 = 31125 white triangles
      31125+250=31375 grey triangles

      But even though the questions do not need elaborate solutions, it does not mean they are easy to comprehend and frame a solution, especially when most PSLE students would not have exposure to these question styles. This put an unfair advantage to GEP, E2K students and MO trained students who have gotten exposure to these question types. There is also an element of luck in being able to find the key to the above solution. Under exam stress and time constraint, sometimes you just can't 'see' it.

      MOE promulgate the belief that all schools are good schools. I agree, but I also believe that some schools are better. The better schools would be able to better prepare/expose the students for these questions. The field is not even, and toughening the PSLE would make the field even more uneven. This totally run contrary to MOE's new mission to de-stress the educational system. The trend of tougher questions simply pushes parents to seek more help to tackle them, math olympiad classes will get more business and less well off students get left behind. OYK was still asking parents not to send their kids to tuition centres when they scrap some of the exams? The change to the AL system is supposedly for students to be graded based on their individual performance and they will no longer be as finely differentiated. If you are setting a tough question that almost every student has not seen before, then fine. But if some have better exposure, then they are definitely well differentiated.[/quote]Actually i think i understand the previous person's one better than urs...

      posted in Primary 6 & PSLE
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    • RE: 2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)

      Nethan Nerella\" post_id=\"1939221\" time=\"1569932177\" user_id=\"178724:[quote=\"Nethan Nerella\" post_id=1939221 time=1569932177 user_id=178724]
      Guys for the X Y Z spring g question what u guys put[/quote]
      I put the last option.

      posted in Primary 6 & PSLE
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    • RE: 2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)

      TGP666\" post_id=\"1938691\" time=\"1569841503\" user_id=\"181285:

      GO ON STRIKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SEAB AND MOE SET SO HARD PAPER
      Calm down!
      Only bit harder ( okay so maybe it is hard ) but don ned 2 strike...
      This kind of reaction proves u r stressed, so drink some water n relax a little. Hopefully u will feel better.

      posted in Primary 6 & PSLE
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    • RE: 2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)

      TGP666\" post_id=\"1938689\" time=\"1569840828\" user_id=\"181285:

      OH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ENGLISH MATH AND CHINESE SO HARD I FEEL LIKE DYING.....................................
      Please dont. Only psle, next time people won see, only see 4 olevel n alevel.
      Also y do u sound like my sister?

      posted in Primary 6 & PSLE
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    • RE: 2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)

      hanhui\" post_id=\"1938668\" time=\"1569835772\" user_id=\"47197:

      ihatecompo\" post_id=\"1938663\" time=\"1569834836\" user_id=\"181387:

      [quote=phtthp post_id=1938661 time=1569834669 user_id=35251]
      Actually for 2019 Maths, those heavy 4 marks or 5 marks questions towards the end of Paper 2, are more \"Maths olympaid\" and Heuristics type of questions set, to differentiate P6 students from getting an A vs. A *

      On one hand, someone bound to comment that
      Ya lah, every year without fail, sure got a few tough questions bound to set. One forummer ever said that before, if check backwards.

      However, on the other hand, in Mainstream schools (non gep) -
      Those P6 students who never attend any \"MO\" training before will lose out, because they have never received any training before in MO. MO is offered for upper primary P5 and P6 students, for full solid 2 years in primary schools. In some schools, some even received (started) MO training at P4, means Total, 3 years. Is it any wonder then, that these students will sail (breeze) through this year 2019 Maths, while those who never attend any at all, struggled ?

      After all, those of us know that those worksheets from \"My Pals are Here \" are useless, because none of these used in schools, prepare students to fave MO questions.

      The logical question then we need to ask SEAB is,

      Isn't it unfair to set those 4 and 5 marks \"MO\" questions, when NOT all P6 Mainstream students have the same, equal chance to receive \"in-house\" MO training, because so far, who get to receive free MO training in schools ? They are

      A)
      - GEP students, because the MO Maths questions are built in, designed already into the GEP (P4 to P6 ) curriculum,

      And

      B)
      - those \"High ability\" Mainstream students, who were selected by their respective primary schools at either end of P3, or P4, to attend \"High ability\" MO free training lessons, in schools


      Those P6 Mainstream students, who never receive any chance (opportunity) to smell nor experienced free \"MO\" training, everyday just keep practising those ordinary, not helpful \"My Pals are Here\" series, or keep practising tonnes and mountain high piked up stack and stack of past year papers, is it any wonder then that they are shocked, stoned, taken aback, stunned by these \"MO\" 4 / 5 heavy marks set inside Paper 2 this year, and cried (depressed ) ?


      So, question is, why did SEAB set heavy 4 / 5 marks Paper 2 questions, knowing that only a subset of P6 students had received the pri ileged, coveted free MO training in school, while Majority of P6 students did not receive ?

      Isn't this very unfair, right from beginning ?

      I mean, if want to test funny questions, make it fair -
      That ALL p6 students, regardless of whether Gep or Non Gep, high ability or Non high ability Maths students, All habe received free MO training, then Yes, test them all, on EQUAL ground. Then only is this fair and square !!!

      Chill bro got bell curve :DDD

      Well, I Guess it’s not so much about the bell curve, but rather looking at the vulnerable & innocent 12 yrs old kids welfare & mental torture, having to sit for these tough papers , even an adult can’t attempt these questions easily. Their emotions will definitely be dampened & crushed. In addition the fear too taking their first National Exam will get them even more nervous.
      Remember, not all kids ability are the same and the government shd take into consideration those average ability kids...[/quote]Just asking, do they really get that demoralised and crushed? Or is it just some?

      posted in Primary 6 & PSLE
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    • RE: 2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)

      Legomum\" post_id=\"1938099\" time=\"1569594230\" user_id=\"180770:

      Anyone know what is your answer for Paper 1, Q15? My DS said is abt the \"boy girl\" qn but forget the details 😞
      I put 1/3 as answer
      Question is smth like
      Grp A n B/ 1 n 2, A has 2/5 (ithink) of total. 1/4 in a is girl. 3/10 is girl. What is fraction of girl in b?

      posted in Primary 6 & PSLE
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    • RE: 2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)

      panickymum\" post_id=\"1938001\" time=\"1569578533\" user_id=\"64662:

      jellyfulla\" post_id=\"1937984\" time=\"1569576078\" user_id=\"181311:

      [quote=phtthp post_id=1937982 time=1569575864 user_id=35251]
      what is the correct answer for part (c) ?
      True or Not possible to tell ?

      actually can first assume that the angle is ninety degrees as perpendicular so there will be a right angle. then use the other angles to find out whether it adds up to 180 degrees ( as question says it’s a straight line ). my friend did that and she got 180 degrees in the end so i think it’s true.

      Yes my Ds also try that . He was sad that didn't check other nos and got this part wrong .
      He told me if u assume the angle to be 85 degree still work out to be 180 .
      https://postimg.cc/tZJ8JqQv[/quote]I got 92 degrees from using trapezium(360 degree) - the other sides.

      posted in Primary 6 & PSLE
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    • RE: 2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)

      agltan98\" post_id=\"1937823\" time=\"1569565999\" user_id=\"11229:

      15%->6 egg tarts
      100%->40 egg tarts
      40+6= 46 egg tarts (ans a)

      $61.20 / 40 = $1.53 (ans b)

      Check: ✅
      If 1 egg tart is $1.53
      40 egg tarts should get $61.20
      If Jamie got 15% discount,
      $61.20 x 15% = $9.18
      This extra $9.18 was used to buy 6 more egg tarts. So if I take this extra money divide by the cost of 1 egg tarts, I should get 6 egg tarts:
      $9.18 / $1.53 = 6 egg tarts ✅
      1.53 is 15 percent off.

      posted in Primary 6 & PSLE
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    • RE: 2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)

      Ellybelly\" post_id=\"1937825\" time=\"1569566045\" user_id=\"179810:

      https://postimg.cc/CBsCWXGx

      My DS said the figure is like this.
      Its not.

      posted in Primary 6 & PSLE
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    • RE: 2019 PSLE Discussions and Strategies (Children born in 2007)

      TGP666\" post_id=\"1937812\" time=\"1569565404\" user_id=\"181285:

      whatttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt i put false false true
      bc i assume it is 90 degree and see if it works
      i think other answers does not work(or does it?)
      I put false false false coz i found out its 92 degree. Hopefully its correct.

      posted in Primary 6 & PSLE
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