atutor2001:

Zack7:

No. Louder in here is a comparative adverb. It modifies the verb speak. So is more loudly. And both are acceptable in formal writing.

Extracted from http://oald8.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/dictionary/loud_2

\"Louder is also used in informal styles to mean ‘more loudly’: Can you speak louder?\"

Extracted from http://www.funtrivia.com/askft/Question97662.html

In speech, 'quicker' would be the most commonly found. In formal document writing, 'more quickly' would be found

In this link http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?t=1335298 they even disallowed \"louder\".

So which of your first two extracts says that louder is wrong in formal speech?

And also, I can quote you a ton of other sources that says otherwise.

And the last link first comment by lis, louder is an adverb, not an adjective. she is wrong.

English is not a one way street. It is not rigid. Different sentence structure can mean totally different things and a fine line normally separates the right from the wrong if there is even a right and a wrong in the first place.

What might be wrong now may be accepted in future. Language evolves.

And louder seems wrong there because of the sentence structure. It is different from the question here.

Can you speak louder vs can you read all the new words more loudly.

In fact the better choice Is can you read all the new words aloud.

Because there is no hint of comparison there as opposed to the question here. So it is not as good to use comparative adverbs there.

atutor2001:

Zack7:

Hah still so full of yourself?

Asker requested for more than two factors. I gave him the broad groups to choose from

Your reply was \"biotic (living) and abiotic (non-living) factors\" Please be kind to the other readers by elaborating that \"you can chose from these 2 broad groups, or adding the word \"type\" before factor. There are many students reading this forum. They might misunderstood those two as factors and used them.

Well, anyone with 'common sense' as you so crudely like to use, should know how to differentiate. And not blindly absorbing all the comments here.

MathIzzzFun:

Zack7:

[quote=\"peggy\"]Hi, my mind just isn't working. This should be an easy one but probably I might have solved too difficult questions lately till I can't solve the easy one. Please help.


2/3 of Ali's story books was the same as 3/5 of Raju's story books. If Ali had 100 fewer books, how many books would Ali have ?

2/3 x = 3/5y
Y-x = 100

Solving,

X=900

Now that you mention how models are used in conjunction with equalizing the numerator, it has become clear.

And I never claimed algebra is superior. Y do u see it that way? In fact I gave a solution which I thought was 'clearer' that contained no algebra.

Anyway, I must agree eugene's method is better now that isee how it works.

Hi Zack7,
I copied the initial solution you provided... and I did not say that algebra is superior or that another method is superior.
let's not pick words.. I m not here to debate which method is better and which is not..there are different approaches to solving a problem.. there is no one single method that can used for all types of problem sums... sometimes, the algebra/unit approach is more efficient, some times MD will provide a quicker and clearer solution, and sometimes simple logic will do... this forum provides for all to contribute their ideas/methods so that everyone can benefit. In particular, it offers different perspectives on problems and this is something that classroom will not be able to provide to the students who are reading this forum.

Take for example this question: \"There are some marbles in a box. The marbles can be put into packets of 4 or 7 with no marbles left over. When the marbles are put into packets of 13, there are 11 marbles left. What is the smallest possible number of marbles in the box?\".

The usual approach is to make a list and find the number that fits the scenarios. A quicker way is to draw a simple model to get the solution- 336

Have a great weekend !

cheers.[/quote]Then why ask me to be open to other methods?

Just because I use algebra mainly means i am not open to other methods?

And why not quote my other solution that is based on logic?

I question Eugene's method because I don't understand how it worked. I then proceeded to suggest a 'clearer' method which I now believe Eugene's method is better.

Where did I mention that any method was better? Or I am not receptive of any method?

atutor2001:

Zack7:

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for example, John said ' my dad is a man'

the answer should be John said his father is a man.

...

I think you should have used \"is usually\" instead of \"should be\".

\"John said that his father was a man.\" can be grammatically correct.

Just in case you don't know why, allow me to explain. It means that his father is no longer alive.

... Just how bad can u get.

Yes,was can also be used. But it does not mean the father is no longer alive. It means his father is no longer a man, which means he might have changed gender. Not because he is dead...

I m sickof correcting your atrocious mistakes.

atutor2001:

sharon1234:

1. \"(In or Within) half an hour, we have to be off, so don't delay,\" he told us.

My England is no good. But basic grammar still ok lah.

\"In half an hour\" means \"After half an hour\"
Example : \"In half an hour, Mary baked the cake\" means Mary baked the cake after half an hour.

Therefore, if we use \"in\" in your sentence, it becomes \"In half an hour, we have to be off, so don't delay.\"

This means that \"After half an hour, we have to be off, so don't delay.\" Isn't it contradictory. We will only be off after half an hour and yet we must not delay further? So the answer should be \"within\".

Have not visited these English threads for quite some times and was shocked by some of the feedback. Really hope that Ricully, the real expert, can come back to help.

You r right in 1 thing. Your English is really not good

In half an hour doesn't only mean after half an hour.

When it is used in the way as per the question, it takes on the meaning of a deadline timing. That's why you can't afford to delay.

N you are such a hypocrite. Asking me to follow rules while you go about setting a bad example with all your stupid little insults.

Michaelia0816:

The apple question , pls give me step by step answer!!!!!

Would u prefer algebra or modeling?

Anyway by model

Notice that 4u + 85 = 1 u of the original orange

So 3u of the original apple is 12u + 255

So total original apple = 12u+ 255+ 34

Which is also the 29u of apple

So

12u + 289 = 29u
1u = 17
29 u = 493

U will have to draw out the model if you don't understand

3u | 34
1u

29u
4u| 85

MathIzzzFun:

Zack7:

[quote=\"ADoc\"]]Hi, my mind just isn't working. This should be an easy one but probably I might have solved too difficult questions lately till I can't solve the easy one. Please help.


2/3 of Ali's story books was the same as 3/5 of Raju's story books. If Ali had 100 fewer books, how many books would Ali have ?

Hi! Other than algebra, which some primary students may not be too comfortable with, we explain to them that before we can compare ratio or fraction units of the SAME qty, we must change them to the same number of units. This is an important concept in order to score those ratio qs, that I'm sure parents and students here are already very familiar with.

(2/3) x 3 = 6/9 } ali
(3/5) x 2 = 6/10 } raju

We see that Ali has 1 unit less than raju ---> 100 books
therefore Ali has 9 x 100 = 900 books.

Another variation of this sort of 2-mark qs is to ask for the fraction or ratio of say, Ali's to raju's.

cheers
eugene

your method is quite unorthodox i must say...

firstly, (2/3) x 3 = 2, not 6/9. same with 3/5

secondly, 6/9 is not 1 unit less than 6/10... in fact, 6/9 > 6/10. it might work as a shortcut in this question, but i don't think it is clear to the kids or even the right concept.

a clearer way would be

2/3 ali = 3/5 raja (as per the question)
ali = 9/10 raja (cross multiply)

now here comes the crucial step namely, how to interpret the above equation.
the equation tells you ali has only 9/10 as many books as raja.
always ask yourself when you are forming your conclusion, who has more books who has less. does it agree with the question? in this case, ali has less.

the equation might look like raja has fewer since there is a 9/10 factor, but this is not true because of the equal sign. it is important to note the equality sign.

so in this case, one should interpret it as : the WHOLE of ali is only EQUAL to 9/10 of raja. that means everything that ali has is not even equal to the whole of raja, but rather only equal to 9/10 of raja's books.

so this means 1/10 of raja's books is the amount that is more than ali. so ali has 100 books less than raja, which means raja has 100 more than ali.

9/10 of raja, which is = ali, is then 100x9 = 900.

hi Zack7,

if you were to go through the solution and understand the logic, you should see that it was just a typo omission by ADoc, the method is correct.

2/3 ali = 3/5 raja.. \"equalize\" the numerator ie 2/3 x 3/3, 3/5 x 2/2
we will get 6/9 Ali = 6/10 Raja --> So, Ali --> 9 units & Raja --> 10 units

.. this is a common method taught and it is easy to understand because one can easily draw a model to see that indeed Ali has 9 blocks and Raja has 10 blocks.

there will always be different approaches to solving a problem - no one method is better than the other.. it is a question of preference. One person may prefer the algebra approach, another may like the unit approach, while another will simply stick to model drawing. So, be open to various approaches because for some questions, the algebra approach is not the most efficient one.

cheers.[/quote]Now that you mention how models are used in conjunction with equalizing the numerator, it has become clear.

And I never claimed algebra is superior. Y do u see it that way? In fact I gave a solution which I thought was 'clearer' that contained no algebra.

Anyway, I must agree eugene's method is better now that isee how it works.

atutor2001:

Michaelia0816:

Pls help me! It was about living together.

What is the two factors that may affect the size of the pond community?
You may list more than 2 for me to choose!!!

Hi Michaelia0816

I don't think the question you have posted is the original one. In science, the question is extremely important and we need to understand the question first before attempting to answer it.

If the question is really \"What are the two factors that may affect the size of the pond community?\", then there is no answer because the words \"the two\" means those two factors they are asking for has been made known to us and cannot be changed. That is, we cannot put in any other 2 factors. However, there is nothing in the question that indicates which 2 factors they are asking for (unless there are other info given in the question). Putting \"biotic\" and \"abiotic\" as the answer will also be wrong because those are \"types of factors\" and not actual factors. (as an example : Name 2 plants found in the community. The answer cannot be \"flowering\" and \"non-flowering\" plants as those are \"types of plants\". The question is asking for 2 plant names.) Therefore, understanding of the question is important.

Hah still so full of yourself?

Asker requested for more than two factors. I gave him the broad groups to choose from

atutor2001:

mumworks:

Hi

I am confused for this question :

The chairman of the debate competition advised the two teams to speak (loud/loudly/louder/ more loudly) in the finals as the audience gave feedback that the debaters did not speak loud enough in the semi finals.

The school teacher told my son that both \"louder\" and \"loudly\" can be the answer but not \"more loudly\" ?

Anyone can help ? Thanks

Hi mumworks
I am surprised by what the teacher had told your son that \"more loudly\" is not allowed.

\"more loudly\" is an adverb which is used to modify a verb e.g. \"you need to speak (speak is a verb) more loudly\"

\"louder\" is an adjective, which is used to modify a noun e.g. the noise (noise is a noun) is louder now. However, in informal writing, we can use \"louder\" as an adverb to replace \"more loudly\".

Therefore, \"more loudly\" would be the only correct choice if this is an exam question because it is grammatically (formal form) correct and it also conveys the right message.

For English, some managed to get by through \"sound\" to predict the correct grammar. However, when it comes to situations where all options sound ok, we need to fall back on actual grammar background to decide.

There used to be an English expert in this forum, \"Ricully\" who explains really well. Unfortunately he is missing now. You may like to go back to the old posts from him. I always refer back to his posts.

No. Louder in here is a comparative adverb. It modifies the verb speak. So is more loudly. And both are acceptable in formal writing.

atutor2001:

Zack7:

[quote=\"ttyh\"]In a digestive system, which organ will one find the sharpest drop in the amount of undigested food left? Why?

i don't really understand what mean by the 'sharpest drop in the amount of undigested food left'

but i guess its the intestines. because that is where your undigested food gets removed into the colon, hence there is a 'sharp drop?'

You seemed to have problem with comprehension. Allow me to explain it in simple English. \"Undigested food\" means those food that is not digested yet. \"amount of undigested food left\" means the amount of undigested food that can still be found. \"sharpest drop in the the amount of undigested food left\" would therefore mean that the decrease in the amount of undigested food that can still be found is the greatest. By the way, in case you do not know,\"sharp drop\" means greatest decrease.

Therefore, your answer is wrong, it is the stomach. Common sense will tells us that most digestion occurs in the stomach where digestive juice are added and the churning and squeezing actions of the stomach will break down the food into liquid form and into simpler substances.

Therefore, for a given amount of food eaten, if we compare the amount of undigested food at the entry to the stomach compared to the amount of undigested food at the exit of the stomach, we will find the \"sharpest drop i.e. greatest decrease.

I think it is your language handicap. No wonder you always have weird interpretations.[/quote]woah, looks like you don't understand simple english too

i already said 'i don't really understand' and i 'guess', which means i may be wrong.

i never claimed to clear anyone's doubt? lol... unlike a certain someone.

and looks like you still enjoy employing personal attacks when arguing. what a sad case. too much intellect makes you snobbish?

or did your ego get pricked?