Touch_me_not\" post_id=\"2105717\" time=\"1681668584\" user_id=\"187786:

Am looking to buy a new upright piano for my son. Had tried Kawai K800, Yamaha YU5 as well as Schimmel C130 and Konzert 132, have not made up mind yet as would like to try several more brands. My question is, do piano dealers normally give discount and are open to negotiation? Or it's usually a \"this is a final price\" process? Appreciate your sharing.

For dealers selling brand new pianos, it's usually a final price process while on the other hand, dealers selling second-hand pianos are more open to negotiation.

But of course, you can politely ask for a discount and see how it goes

Eric
https://www.zadokpiano.com.sg
Zadok Music Shoppe

Reynald12\" post_id=\"2070256\" time=\"1655028454\" user_id=\"178246:

Hi everyone,

I am thinking of upgrading my kid’s piano since he has just completed grade 2. I noticed that the Yamaha Piano U3 for example sold at Aureus Academy (about 8k SGD) is much cheaper than Yamaha store (about 13k), does anyone here know why? Is it because it is refurbished? Anyone here has experience buying pianos from Aureus Academy?

Thanks in advance!

It is most likely just a used Yamaha piano in good condition and age for that kind of price range, not necessarily refurbished or reconditioned. Price range can start anywhere from $4800 and above.

You can check the serial number located at the inside iron frame. New pianos have serial numbers of 6 million and above, while refurbished pianos are from 2 million (1975) to 4 million (1985).

Eric Hoe
Zadok Music Shoppe
https://www.zadokpiano.com.sg

Chillitan\" post_id=\"2055486\" time=\"1641958417\" user_id=\"191461:

Hi

Really appreciate some advice and suggestions on whether and which piano I should buy. When choosing a piano, what should I take into account?

My girl is 5 years old and she has been learning piano for 1 year. We have been renting a piano all this while. As she continues to show interest in learning, We are thinking of buying her a proper piano. However, both me and my hubby do not play the piano and we are frankly, quite lost on where to start. Also, we are not fixated on exams and will not expect her to take them (unless she wants it). What we want is for her to learn and progress on a skill that she can enjoy music for life at her pace.

Her current school is recommending that we buy refurbished Yamaha U1 piano (made and refurbished in Japan, 30 years old) at about $6K.

To me, i thought it is high price to pay for such an old piano. :(. I googled and saw a shop selling same piano, brand new at $8800 while Yamaha school sells it at ard $10k!!

I wonder why the significant price differences. What are the things I should watch out for?

Thank you.

Pianos are a depreciating asset just like cars in Singapore. They depreciate quickly for the first few years and slowly thereafter, hence the price difference (of a brand new 3-9 years piano compared to a 30 year old one).

If you can afford to spend a few thousand on a piano and you think that she will stick with it for 5-10 years then I would advise you to go ahead and buy a high-quality piano even when the player is still a beginner.

If you think that she might lose interest after another 2 more years or so, then perhaps a cheaper piano might be a good choice. However, bear in mind that cheaper pianos lose their value extremely quickly compared with used Japanese pianos like U1.

Playing a cheap piano is no fun at all and she might quickly lose interest and do something else instead. For a student to have the best possible chance of falling in love with playing the piano, they need access to a piano that will inspire them to keep practicing every day. :rahrah:

As for choosing pianos and judging by your budget mentioned above, your best option would be to talk to a second-hand dealer/used piano shop instead of buying from direct owners (Carousell). This is because there are too many technical issues to look out for in a used piano that only a piano technician can spot. On the other hand, buying a piano from a second-hand piano shop comes with warranties and buyback guarantees that give you peace of mind.

Regarding her current school recommendations, I recommend going for U1 as well. Other models (121cm exam model) suitable for your daughter are U1H ($4500+), U1J, Kawai BS-20 etc.

Conclusion: Buy the best piano that you can afford. Use your full budget.

Call Now: (65) 92766994
Email: [email protected]
Website: https://www.zadokpiano.com.sg/

p0o9i8\" post_id=\"2050575\" time=\"1638610178\" user_id=\"65485:

Some qns I hv
The JU109 was $2.4k and I was considering a 10yo Yamaha U3 silent, as I wfh mainly. The silent was 4.7 but at 1.2m I felt would prepare her for exams, so she can practice n be use to the model.
She is just going for her 1st g2 exams so is still a baby,
Should I hv just stuck to the digital Casio? I tested the acoustic and sounds better imho but she don’t realise it.

I encourage you to go with the Yamaha U3. You may think that beginners can just stick with a cheap piano and only upgrade at around grade 5. But of course, not everybody has a few thousand dollars to spend on a piano so we have to be realistic. :moneyflies:

If you can afford to spend a few thousand on a piano and you think that she will stick with it for 5-10 years then I would advise you to go ahead and buy a high-quality piano even when the player is still a beginner.

If you think that she might lose interest after a year or 2 then perhaps a cheaper piano might be a good choice. However, please bear in mind that cheaper pianos lose their value extremely quickly compared with used Japanese pianos. (Yamaha U3 certainly has a proven track record for its quality and holding its value)

Playing a cheap piano is no fun at all and she might quickly lose interest and do something else instead. For a student to have the best possible chance of falling in love with playing the piano they need access to a piano that will inspire them to keep practicing every day. :rahrah:

Conclusion: Buy the best piano that you can afford. Use your full budget.

Call Now: (65) 92766994
Email: [email protected]
Website: https://www.zadokpiano.com.sg/

p0o9i8\" post_id=\"2050572\" time=\"1638609788\" user_id=\"65485:

I bought a Casio pxs1000 in 2020 and me n my DG have been playing on it frequently. I now think she can upgrade to an acoustic piano n commuted to a Yamaha ju109 2nd hand

Great! If you can afford to upgrade, by all means, go right ahead! :imcool:

Pianonoob\" post_id=\"2013632\" time=\"1611952965\" user_id=\"189578:

Hi everyone! Is it true that a recon piano can only last 20-30 years? Thank you!!

A reconditioned piano can last several decades if regularly maintained. Reputable brands such as Yamaha and Kawai pianos can even last over 60 years, especially with a stable climate in Singapore, where the weather doesn't change drastically.

ctan3101\" post_id=\"2013423\" time=\"1611799400\" user_id=\"12344:

zadokpiano\" post_id=\"2013368\" time=\"1611757618\" user_id=\"169589:

For pianists aiming for Grade 8 and beyond, if possible, use a top range upright (131cm) or a grand piano.
Examples of top range uprights: Yamaha YUS series, Yamaha UX series, Kawai US series.

However, the examples above are expensive even for second-hand ones which cost at least $5700. Many pianists that I know settled for the Yamaha U3 which costs around $4800.

Either way, It's great if you can afford a grand piano too!

Thanks for your kind advice. I don't have space and budge for a grand piano.
Can U3 be used till Diploma level?

Yes U3 can be used till Diploma level. Its precisely because many Singaporeans don't have space and budget for grand pianos hence they chose the uprights.

It's certainly nice to play and practice on a grand, however its not necessary to have one to achieve a diploma level. I know some have accomplished the same, practising on much worse pianos due to budget constraints.

For pianists aiming for Grade 8 and beyond, if possible, use a top range upright (131cm) or a grand piano.

Examples of top range uprights: Yamaha YUS series, Yamaha UX series, Kawai US series.

However, the examples above are expensive even for second-hand ones which cost at least $5700. Many pianists that I know settled for the Yamaha U3 which costs around $4800.

Either way, It's great if you can afford a grand piano too!

ctan3101\" post_id=\"2013353\" time=\"1611743386\" user_id=\"12344:

hi,
My son just passed grade 5 and I am thinking of changing his piano. What model is good for beyond grade 8, preferably can last till Diploma because I don't wish to change again.

Well what is his piano first? :scratchhead:

Melahdoo\" post_id=\"2010452\" time=\"1609506972\" user_id=\"166458:

Hi everyone, after seeing all the questions & advice posted here, I've taken the time to create a Google spreadsheet to compile all the prices, advice & owner reviews of the different pianos found in Singapore.

I believe that by putting all the information into 1 place, it will be much easier for parents to gather and compare information when they're looking to buy or upgrade to a new piano in the future.

Currently, I've only included some common Yamaha & Kawai models, but I will need help from more piano owners to share a review of their model as well. This way, I can continue to fill the spreadsheet with more brands & models as well as reviews from actual owners themselves.

You can view the spreadsheet on my Telegram channel here and follow it for the latest updates. Thanks! https://t.me/joinchat/SSgh564l-0EIm1nX

I hope this will help most of you out there in your piano buying journey!

Kudos for the effort in making this! Although I feel it would look better if you can wrap the text in all the cells so that it won't extend out in a single line as shown in the pic below.


https://postimg.cc/CzWYmCsm

Good job though! :goodpost: