All About Full-Time Maids
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POA Teacher:
I sent my FDW who was dangerous to my family to the maid agency because she lost her passport and I had no time to help her renew it. I asked the maid agency to help, they won't. I found out later that she had been going out every night and making money prostituting herself. Of course, the agencies do not care, they are not liable. Besides, they can bring the maid back again and again (my agency did) no matter how bad the maid was, as long as they can 'sell' them to another employer.
About maid agencies: they bear no responsibility for errant maids, runaways etc.Notksmum:
wow, I din know my post would create such furore. Anyway this is my current view on the FDW problem.
1. Remove the Levy and Pay Maid Higher Salary. Remove Transfer Maid Scheme by Agency. Follow the HK method. This keeps the maid happy and also maid will be kept in check and not \"job hop\" when not happy. A proper after service level agreement between agency and employer should be drawn up to address some areas (eg: maid run away, pregnant etc) so that the agency bear some responsibilty even after we bring the maid home.
2. Co Share the Responsibility if FDW does illegal activities, in the event any cost is incurred, the cost should be borne by both agency and employer on a fair basis. This keeps the agency in check as well to ensure that they bring in good maids with good conduct.[I dont think a full waiver will be possible so co sharing costs might be an option.]
3. On the prevention side, mandatory ruling shld be that agency must bear all costs for counselling a maid that they bring in.
Let me tell you about my experience with a runaway maid (not mine or any friend's). My FDW and I sometimes come across runaways FDWs, and being kaypohs, we talk to them.
One day my maid told me about a runaway FDW hanging around downstairs with a couple of guys (the same guys were also with another runaway a few months before that- she had love bites). So I asked her to go ask the maid the name of her agency, and branch. I rang up the agent to inform them. Guess what, they didn't bother to come get her. Days later, she was still downstairs with the guys. Btw, the agency has a branch in the shopping centre just a couple of minutes away from here.
They are very irresponsible and only care about money. Be very careful.
In Singapore, when you get a maid, you are liable to the government, at the mercy of MOM, HOME, the maid and the agency.
Bo hua. Better to pick up the broom and sweep. hehehe...
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shaima111:
I think that a maid should be allowed to have a mobile phone of his own. She is a human and sometimes can have the same issues as we have. She can face an emergency situation like all of us. Cell phone has become a necessity everywhere so why not her?
Yup. why not her? My maids hp was confiscated by the agent when I took her. I guess not many agents would confiscate the maids hp, obviously theres a good reason for that and now I do know why. Her family knows my hp and house number and I dnt stop her frm using the public phone if she needs to. Now she tells me its cheaper to use the public phone and does not want to buy a hp and even if she does she will let me hold it for her.
I guess the agent knows she would not have lasted 4 months with me if she kept her phone.
In my opinion , having or not having a phone has nothing to do with being human or not, if the phone is a distraction and the the maid cant control herself then some action should be taken
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Actually, many maids use their day off to moonlight. Imagine in one day, they earn $100 for doing housework in two houses. That makes it $400 for 4 days of work but they are only paid around $450 a month by their employer. Needless to say, that explains their attitude towards their full time job.
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CJS:
Actually, many maids use their day off to moonlight. Imagine in one day, they earn $100 for doing housework in two houses. That makes it $400 for 4 days of work but they are only paid around $450 a month by their employer. Needless to say, that explains their attitude towards their full time job.
Well thats illegal today but whose gonna know MOM? NO WAY!. MOM cant catch maids doing part time. One maid told me if her employer makes her take all weekends off, her frieds and her are going to do part time. Its hard to catch them, these filipinas hv their own connection. Honestly, its cheaper to get a part timer for housework weekly and with the introduction of weekly off days, wouldnt it be better for the maid to do part time instead of hanging out with the wrong crowd.... actually these maids are providing a service especially for people who need help and they are much cheaper than the registered part time agencies.
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moonee:
Met a maid caught doing part time. She had to stay in Singapore for trial for 2 years while waiting for trial on her employers and she was the witnesss. Again employer liable.So take care man.CJS:
Actually, many maids use their day off to moonlight. Imagine in one day, they earn $100 for doing housework in two houses. That makes it $400 for 4 days of work but they are only paid around $450 a month by their employer. Needless to say, that explains their attitude towards their full time job.
Well thats illegal today but whose gonna know MOM? NO WAY!. MOM cant catch maids doing part time. One maid told me if her employer makes her take all weekends off, her frieds and her are going to do part time. Its hard to catch them, these filipinas hv their own connection. Honestly, its cheaper to get a part timer for housework weekly and with the introduction of weekly off days, wouldnt it be better for the maid to do part time instead of hanging out with the wrong crowd.... actually these maids are providing a service especially for people who need help and they are much cheaper than the registered part time agencies. -
does it mean that while maid is waiting for trial, employer still has to keep her in the house, pay her and her levy ? How about other legal charges like court fees ? Do employers have to post bail too ?
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CJS:
does it mean that while maid is waiting for trial, employer still has to keep her in the house, pay her and her levy ? How about other legal charges like court fees ? Do employers have to post bail too ?
Not sure about the levy, but I know maid had no pay, and stayed at HOME. The legal fees are paid by the employers (to defend themselves), the maid was only the witness, and not liable. But she paid for it by having no pay for 2 years waiting for trial and will likely be deported at the end of the trial. -
2ppaamm:
This very unfair for the employer who most of the time do not know maid is moonlightling on day off. Also with no pay, maid would not work at home but employer has to provide her with all her needs. In such circumstances, can the employer send maid back to home country instead of waiting for trial ?CJS:
does it mean that while maid is waiting for trial, employer still has to keep her in the house, pay her and her levy ? How about other legal charges like court fees ? Do employers have to post bail too ?
Not sure about the levy, but I know maid had no pay, and stayed at HOME. The legal fees are paid by the employers (to defend themselves), the maid was only the witness, and not liable. But she paid for it by having no pay for 2 years waiting for trial and will likely be deported at the end of the trial. -
This is ridiculous!
The employer was prosecuted?
Did the employer get a cut of her part-time pay?
If the employer didn’t allow the FDW to moonlight, how can MOM prosecute the employer. That would amount to persecution instead of prosecution.
In all fairness the ones who should be in trouble should be the FDW and the part-time employer as they were the ones who broke the law. -
POA Teacher:
Er... not sure of the full details leh... but here's what she told me. Only met her once:This is ridiculous!
The employer was prosecuted?
Did the employer get a cut of her part-time pay?
If the employer didn't allow the FDW to moonlight, how can MOM prosecute the employer. That would amount to persecution instead of prosecution.
In all fairness the ones who should be in trouble should be the FDW and the part-time employer as they were the ones who broke the law.
Apparently the employer knew about it because the part-time was for her family members. I am not sure how they found out, but when it was, the employer was liable. HOME is not the employer's house, it is the humanitarian organization. She told me she was the witness, and not liable, and I assumed it is the truth. Perhaps someone else with more information can confirm. Even after 2 years it looked like they were in good terms because her employer would bring her things when she was at HOME. I only know that employers are fully liable for their FDW, no matter what they do, so it is not a good idea to encourage them to get part-time employment because it is illegal. Her employment pass says the employer's home address, and that's the only place she can work.
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