All About Full-Time Maids
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moonee:
Met a maid caught doing part time. She had to stay in Singapore for trial for 2 years while waiting for trial on her employers and she was the witnesss. Again employer liable.So take care man.CJS:
Actually, many maids use their day off to moonlight. Imagine in one day, they earn $100 for doing housework in two houses. That makes it $400 for 4 days of work but they are only paid around $450 a month by their employer. Needless to say, that explains their attitude towards their full time job.
Well thats illegal today but whose gonna know MOM? NO WAY!. MOM cant catch maids doing part time. One maid told me if her employer makes her take all weekends off, her frieds and her are going to do part time. Its hard to catch them, these filipinas hv their own connection. Honestly, its cheaper to get a part timer for housework weekly and with the introduction of weekly off days, wouldnt it be better for the maid to do part time instead of hanging out with the wrong crowd.... actually these maids are providing a service especially for people who need help and they are much cheaper than the registered part time agencies.
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does it mean that while maid is waiting for trial, employer still has to keep her in the house, pay her and her levy ? How about other legal charges like court fees ? Do employers have to post bail too ?
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CJS:
does it mean that while maid is waiting for trial, employer still has to keep her in the house, pay her and her levy ? How about other legal charges like court fees ? Do employers have to post bail too ?
Not sure about the levy, but I know maid had no pay, and stayed at HOME. The legal fees are paid by the employers (to defend themselves), the maid was only the witness, and not liable. But she paid for it by having no pay for 2 years waiting for trial and will likely be deported at the end of the trial. -
2ppaamm:
This very unfair for the employer who most of the time do not know maid is moonlightling on day off. Also with no pay, maid would not work at home but employer has to provide her with all her needs. In such circumstances, can the employer send maid back to home country instead of waiting for trial ?CJS:
does it mean that while maid is waiting for trial, employer still has to keep her in the house, pay her and her levy ? How about other legal charges like court fees ? Do employers have to post bail too ?
Not sure about the levy, but I know maid had no pay, and stayed at HOME. The legal fees are paid by the employers (to defend themselves), the maid was only the witness, and not liable. But she paid for it by having no pay for 2 years waiting for trial and will likely be deported at the end of the trial. -
This is ridiculous!
The employer was prosecuted?
Did the employer get a cut of her part-time pay?
If the employer didn’t allow the FDW to moonlight, how can MOM prosecute the employer. That would amount to persecution instead of prosecution.
In all fairness the ones who should be in trouble should be the FDW and the part-time employer as they were the ones who broke the law. -
POA Teacher:
Er... not sure of the full details leh... but here's what she told me. Only met her once:This is ridiculous!
The employer was prosecuted?
Did the employer get a cut of her part-time pay?
If the employer didn't allow the FDW to moonlight, how can MOM prosecute the employer. That would amount to persecution instead of prosecution.
In all fairness the ones who should be in trouble should be the FDW and the part-time employer as they were the ones who broke the law.
Apparently the employer knew about it because the part-time was for her family members. I am not sure how they found out, but when it was, the employer was liable. HOME is not the employer's house, it is the humanitarian organization. She told me she was the witness, and not liable, and I assumed it is the truth. Perhaps someone else with more information can confirm. Even after 2 years it looked like they were in good terms because her employer would bring her things when she was at HOME. I only know that employers are fully liable for their FDW, no matter what they do, so it is not a good idea to encourage them to get part-time employment because it is illegal. Her employment pass says the employer's home address, and that's the only place she can work. -
About ten years ago, I had a good ex-Spore maid who after working with me for six months (maid loan fully repaid), said her ex-employer wanted to employ her. I told her to call her ex-employer and I spoke to her on the phone. It turned out that maid called her to look for job and said that the current job was not what she was told to do before she came to Spore. I had specially arranged a telephone interview before she came to Spore in the presence of maid agents and talked about job scope. I have a special needs child. I told the ex-employer about the telephone interview plus the fact that she has a two-year contract with me. I was so pissed off with the ex-employer who resorted to maid snatching. The ex-employer finally said she understood the situation and would not take my maid away from me. I can’t believe the actions of some unethical employers.
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2ppaamm:
Ok, that explains it fully.
Er... not sure of the full details leh... but here's what she told me. Only met her once:POA Teacher:
This is ridiculous!
The employer was prosecuted?
Did the employer get a cut of her part-time pay?
If the employer didn't allow the FDW to moonlight, how can MOM prosecute the employer. That would amount to persecution instead of prosecution.
In all fairness the ones who should be in trouble should be the FDW and the part-time employer as they were the ones who broke the law.
Apparently the employer knew about it because the part-time was for her family members. I am not sure how they found out, but when it was, the employer was liable. HOME is not the employer's house, it is the humanitarian organization. She told me she was the witness, and not liable, and I assumed it is the truth. Perhaps someone else with more information can confirm. Even after 2 years it looked like they were in good terms because her employer would bring her things when she was at HOME. I only know that employers are fully liable for their FDW, no matter what they do, so it is not a good idea to encourage them to get part-time employment because it is illegal. Her employment pass says the employer's home address, and that's the only place she can work.
Employer got in trouble because she/ he asked the FDW to work at her/ his relative's home. That's not really a case of maid moonlighting. -
POA Teacher:
Ok, that explains it fully.
Er... not sure of the full details leh... but here's what she told me. Only met her once:2ppaamm:
[quote=\"POA Teacher\"]This is ridiculous!
The employer was prosecuted?
Did the employer get a cut of her part-time pay?
If the employer didn't allow the FDW to moonlight, how can MOM prosecute the employer. That would amount to persecution instead of prosecution.
In all fairness the ones who should be in trouble should be the FDW and the part-time employer as they were the ones who broke the law.
Apparently the employer knew about it because the part-time was for her family members. I am not sure how they found out, but when it was, the employer was liable. HOME is not the employer's house, it is the humanitarian organization. She told me she was the witness, and not liable, and I assumed it is the truth. Perhaps someone else with more information can confirm. Even after 2 years it looked like they were in good terms because her employer would bring her things when she was at HOME. I only know that employers are fully liable for their FDW, no matter what they do, so it is not a good idea to encourage them to get part-time employment because it is illegal. Her employment pass says the employer's home address, and that's the only place she can work.
Employer got in trouble because she/ he asked the FDW to work at her/ his relative's home. That's not really a case of maid moonlighting.[/quote]A maid working for a relative for remuneration is not considered moonlighting? Hm...anyway, really none of my biz, take good care and I believe I have she'd enough light. :siam: -
CJS:
I was so pissed off with the ex-employer who resorted to maid snatching. The ex-employer finally said she understood the situation and would not take my maid away from me. I can't believe the actions of some unethical employers.
Sometime last year my maid's friend came to visit me and said she would like to work for me to look after my father when my father's maid's contract was up. The problem was she had already worked with her first employer for 8 years looking after Ah Gong and Ah Gong was still alive. So I asked her why she wanted to \"jump ship\" especially when she has worked there so long and she was given maximum amount of freedom? She gets off every Sunday and only goes home at 11 pm and she is also free to go out during public holidays. She said her main complain was the pay, that during all these years of being a good maid, cooking, cleaning and looking after Ah Gong and not getting into any major trouble, she thought she is not adequately paid. She does not get pay increment or yearly bonus. So she wanted to go for interviews to see who would offer her higher pay and she will jump ship.
While I quite like her and thought her quite pleasant, I am very concern about \"snatching\" a good maid from her current employer who had relied on her for 8 years looking after Ah Gong. While she would seem to be the most ideal candidate to look after my father, what is Ah Gong (and Ah Ma her employer) going to do if she were to really quit to come work for me? So because of this, I told her while I will think about it, there is no promise since the timing may not be right. (BTW, my father passed away not long after that).
Likewise for my current maid who looked after my two boys since they were babies. I would be very pissed if somebody want to poach her away as it is really very tempting to employers as good maids are hard to come by.
We should not poach each other's maids and thereby creating trouble for our fellow citizen or spoiling the market!
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