Integrated Programme (IP)
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VitoRelax:
Paiseh :oops: before you said it, I really dunno how many top Catholic schools are there mah ...
Last year's O-levels Cath High & St Nics top the cohort. But I notice that since all the IP schools came up, the schools that have students topping the O-levels each year seem to change - not consistent. eg. one year, it's Cedar that is top, then the next year, it's SCGS, then last year was cath high & st nics. -
phankao:
Last year's O-levels Cath High & St Nics top the cohort. But I notice that since all the IP schools came up, the schools that have students topping the O-levels each year seem to change - not consistent. eg. one year, it's Cedar that is top, then the next year, it's SCGS, then last year was cath high & st nics.
That is because those schools formerly who were top are now IP and their students no longer do 'O' Level.....so there have to be some one who will occupy the top ranking anyway ...... no more tigers in the mountain, monkey can also be king -
phankao:
Last year's O-levels Cath High & St Nics top the cohort. But I notice that since all the IP schools came up, the schools that have students topping the O-levels each year seem to change - not consistent. eg. one year, it's Cedar that is top, then the next year, it's SCGS, then last year was cath high & st nics.
So, can we say that the top 4 O level schools (in random order) are:
1) SCCG
2) Cat High
3) St CHIJ St Nic
4) Cedar -
verykiasu2010:
That is because those schools formerly who were top are now IP and their students no longer do 'O' Level.....so there have to be some one who will occupy the top ranking anyway ...... no more tigers in the mountain, monkey can also be king
O I C.
So, anymore new IP schools coming up ? -
Well, one thing to bear in mind is the curve. When RI and so on were in the rankings lists, the difference could be a significant one in terms of MSG and so on.
Now that the tail of the curve has been chopped off at the high end, the remaining schools are closer to the mean and thus less different. So you would expect their results every year to be closer together and the order to change more often.
A closer look at the results will show that the difference is insignificant anyway. In theory the difference could be down to a few kids who hadn't had enough coffee on the morning of an exam.
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autolycus:
What is MSG ?Well, one thing to bear in mind is the curve. When RI and so on were in the rankings lists, the difference could be a significant one in terms of MSG and so on.
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VitoRelax:
In an attemot to solve this mystery, I called up MOE hotline. The gist of the conversation is as below:In this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Programme
it says:
A-level Programmes
Pioneered by top schools such as Raffles Institution, Raffles Girls School (Secondary), Hwa Chong Institution (then The Chinese High School) and Nanyang Girls' High School in 2004, the Integrated Programme allows students to skip the \"O\" levels at secondary 4 and go straight into the Junior College (JC). Also, top Junior Colleges such as National Junior College, Victoria Junior College and Temasek Junior College offer it independently.
In the Hwa Chong Affiliate Programme, Hwa Chong Institution (college) also grants entry to students from other schools apart from Nanyang Girls' High School and Hwa Chong Institution (High School) based on their O Level results. Hwa Chong Institution (College) section also offers the Direct School Admission (DSA) in which Secondary Four students can apply for a place in Year 5 of the College section.
National Junior College (NJC) has also put out its own programme, the National Junior College Integrated Programme (NJCIP) where Secondary Two students in various schools are picked to join their programme. These students have their Secondary Three and Four education in the JC itself, followed by the JC course.Victoria Junior College (VJC) and Temasek Junior College (TJC) have also taken a similar approach.
Since 2009, NJC has also accepted students have just graduated from PSLE, making it a 6 year program.
Dunman High School applied for the Integrated Programme system in mid-2004 standalone, and MOE approved the first batch to be enrolled in 2005, with Year 1 and Year 3 students, each having a cap of about 135 out of 380 students. Full IP was granted in late 2005, and the school went full IP with the beginning of the academic year of 2006.
River Valley High School joined the Integrated Programme system in late 2005 by operating a six year course standalone. It is the last to join the ranks of the schools offering Integrated Programme before the Ministry of Education had closed the gates to the special system. This ensures that students who are under the Integrated Programme are able to cope with their A levels after bypassing their O levels. All the schools allowed in the scheme accepts the top 10% of the national cohort.
QUESTION:
Under River Valley High, it says that since 2005, MOE had closed the gates to the IP to ensure that those who get into IP are top are at least top 10% of the cohort.
But why in 2009, NJC can start a 6-year IP program ?
Anyone knows ?
Thanks
Officer: Hello, good morning. Thanks for calling MOE, can I help you ? (very polite girl, I must say)
Me: Yes, good morning to you too. You remember in 2005, MOE say no more new IP programs will be approved, is that correct ?
Officer: Yes, that is correct.
Me: Then, how come in 2009, NJC can introduce a new IP program ?
Officer: Oh, that is bcos that NJC's IP program is different from MOE's IP program and has nothing to do with MOE.
Me: So, you mean that now any school like say Cat High wants to start a new IP program, it has nothing to do with MOE ?
Officer: Yes.
Me: But do they need MOE approval ?
Officer: Yes, they need to get MOE approval.
Me: But you say, it has nothing to do with MOE ?
Officer: Yes, it has nothing to do with MOE.
Me: So if they submit, will MOE approve ?
Officer: If we think it is good, then we will approve.
Me: But you said that after 2005, MOE won't approve any new IP program ?
Officer: Yes, that is correct, their IP program is different from MOE's IP program.
Me: Ok thank you.
Officer: Is there any other question I can help ?
Me: Er.. no, thank you.
Officer: Thanks for calling MOE.
Can someone help me, I am still :? leh !! -
I don’t get it. How is NJC’s IP programme different from MOE’s IP programme?
Maybe you should call again and speak to another officer. -
VitoRelax:
Hahah. Cath High principal said they applied again last year, but was rejected again. I don't know how true, but that's what he said.
Me: So, you mean that now any school like say Cat High wants to start a new IP program, it has nothing to do with MOE ?
Officer: Yes.
Me: But do they need MOE approval ?
Officer: Yes, they need to get MOE approval.
Me: But you say, it has nothing to do with MOE ?
Officer: Yes, it has nothing to do with MOE.
Me: So if they submit, will MOE approve ?
Officer: If we think it is good, then we will approve.
Let's see if SJI gets their approval.
http://www.sji.moe.edu.sg/subpage.php?id=208 -
VitoRelax:
NJC has IP programme, but they extended it to 6 years. So, they are still approved by MOE.
In an attemot to solve this mystery, I called up MOE hotline. The gist of the conversation is as below:VitoRelax:
In this link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Programme
it says:
A-level Programmes
Pioneered by top schools such as Raffles Institution, Raffles Girls School (Secondary), Hwa Chong Institution (then The Chinese High School) and Nanyang Girls' High School in 2004, the Integrated Programme allows students to skip the \"O\" levels at secondary 4 and go straight into the Junior College (JC). Also, top Junior Colleges such as National Junior College, Victoria Junior College and Temasek Junior College offer it independently.
In the Hwa Chong Affiliate Programme, Hwa Chong Institution (college) also grants entry to students from other schools apart from Nanyang Girls' High School and Hwa Chong Institution (High School) based on their O Level results. Hwa Chong Institution (College) section also offers the Direct School Admission (DSA) in which Secondary Four students can apply for a place in Year 5 of the College section.
National Junior College (NJC) has also put out its own programme, the National Junior College Integrated Programme (NJCIP) where Secondary Two students in various schools are picked to join their programme. These students have their Secondary Three and Four education in the JC itself, followed by the JC course.Victoria Junior College (VJC) and Temasek Junior College (TJC) have also taken a similar approach.
Since 2009, NJC has also accepted students have just graduated from PSLE, making it a 6 year program.
Dunman High School applied for the Integrated Programme system in mid-2004 standalone, and MOE approved the first batch to be enrolled in 2005, with Year 1 and Year 3 students, each having a cap of about 135 out of 380 students. Full IP was granted in late 2005, and the school went full IP with the beginning of the academic year of 2006.
River Valley High School joined the Integrated Programme system in late 2005 by operating a six year course standalone. It is the last to join the ranks of the schools offering Integrated Programme before the Ministry of Education had closed the gates to the special system. This ensures that students who are under the Integrated Programme are able to cope with their A levels after bypassing their O levels. All the schools allowed in the scheme accepts the top 10% of the national cohort.
QUESTION:
Under River Valley High, it says that since 2005, MOE had closed the gates to the IP to ensure that those who get into IP are top are at least top 10% of the cohort.
But why in 2009, NJC can start a 6-year IP program ?
Anyone knows ?
Thanks
Officer: Hello, good morning. Thanks for calling MOE, can I help you ? (very polite girl, I must say)
Me: Yes, good morning to you too. You remember in 2005, MOE say no more new IP programs will be approved, is that correct ?
Officer: Yes, that is correct.
Me: Then, how come in 2009, NJC can introduce a new IP program ?
Officer: Oh, that is bcos that NJC's IP program is different from MOE's IP program and has nothing to do with MOE.
Me: So, you mean that now any school like say Cat High wants to start a new IP program, it has nothing to do with MOE ?
Officer: Yes.
Me: But do they need MOE approval ?
Officer: Yes, they need to get MOE approval.
Me: But you say, it has nothing to do with MOE ?
Officer: Yes, it has nothing to do with MOE.
Me: So if they submit, will MOE approve ?
Officer: If we think it is good, then we will approve.
Me: But you said that after 2005, MOE won't approve any new IP program ?
Officer: Yes, that is correct, their IP program is different from MOE's IP program.
Me: Ok thank you.
Officer: Is there any other question I can help ?
Me: Er.. no, thank you.
Officer: Thanks for calling MOE.
Can someone help me, I am still :? leh !!
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