2013 P1 Registration Exercise for 2014 In-Take
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sembgal:
I thought Phase 2b and Phase 2C suppose to have 50% in each. 2 girls' schools have more seats allocated to 2B than 2C that caught my attention. How could that be?
Likewise acsp has 26 successful applicants and no of vacancies in phase 2c has been reduced by 2 to 22.
I strongly believe that if the school decides to take in the extras in phase 2b, these ectras shouldn't be taken from phase 2c. -
sembgal:
I thought Phase 2b and Phase 2C suppose to have 50% in each. 2 girls' schools have more seats allocated to 2B than 2C that caught my attention. How could that be?
If there is any withdrawal from earlier phases successful applicants after the 50 : 50 split is done, the vacated places will go into current phase -
lepetitpenguin:
Hello,Just thinking aloud here. Looking at the P2B Schools Conducting Balloting, I've noticed the following comments for the following schools,
\"The school has places for only SC children residing within 1km of the school. No balloting will be conducted.\"
The schools being, ACSJ (47/73), ACSP (24/31), Hong Wen (51/72), Kong Hwa (41/46), MGSP (40/57), SCGSP (22/23). ie. Name of school (2B vacancies/No. of children registered 2B).
Apart from Kong Hwa and SCGSP, the number of children registered for the schools mentioned far outnumbers the number of 2B vacancies. I find it interesting that the exact number accepted equals the exact number of SC within 1km. I'm guessing that this is only possible if the applicant (SC/PR) has the exact status of the registration numbers (including breakdown of SC, PR, Distance information) close to the closing of 2B on 23 Jul late afternoon and hence registers accordingly.
Somehow, the numbers seem too \"exact\" imho. Perhaps I'm missing something here.
Just curious. Tks.
Just adding to sembgal's comments. I've replicated my earlier post to facilitate referencing some of the vacancy numbers at end P2B (late 23 Jul).
Looking at MGPS:
At end P2B, 40 vacancies, 57 applied. All SC (1km) accepted. Vacancies at start of P2C, 41 enrolled (P2B) and 38 vacancies (P2C). I would think that at the start of P2B, vacancies would have been 40 (P2B) and 40 (P2C). Even if 1 pair of twins were enrolled at P2B, there should be 39 (40 minus 1) vacancies for P2C instead of 38. Note: There was no balloting for MGPS for P2B. As such, there would not have been the possibility that the last \"ball\" was a \"twin\" ball.
Still trying to understand how the system works. Tks. -
lepetitpenguin:
I took a snap shot of P2B and after P2B, I can't understand too after I looked at the ACSP figures.
Hello,lepetitpenguin:
Just thinking aloud here. Looking at the P2B Schools Conducting Balloting, I've noticed the following comments for the following schools,
\"The school has places for only SC children residing within 1km of the school. No balloting will be conducted.\"
The schools being, ACSJ (47/73), ACSP (24/31), Hong Wen (51/72), Kong Hwa (41/46), MGSP (40/57), SCGSP (22/23). ie. Name of school (2B vacancies/No. of children registered 2B).
Apart from Kong Hwa and SCGSP, the number of children registered for the schools mentioned far outnumbers the number of 2B vacancies. I find it interesting that the exact number accepted equals the exact number of SC within 1km. I'm guessing that this is only possible if the applicant (SC/PR) has the exact status of the registration numbers (including breakdown of SC, PR, Distance information) close to the closing of 2B on 23 Jul late afternoon and hence registers accordingly.
Somehow, the numbers seem too \"exact\" imho. Perhaps I'm missing something here.
Just curious. Tks.
Just adding to sembgal's comments. I've replicated my earlier post to facilitate referencing some of the vacancy numbers at end P2B (late 23 Jul).
Looking at MGPS:
At end P2B, 40 vacancies, 57 applied. All SC (1km) accepted. Vacancies at start of P2C, 41 enrolled (P2B) and 38 vacancies (P2C). I would think that at the start of P2B, vacancies would have been 40 (P2B) and 40 (P2C). Even if 1 pair of twins were enrolled at P2B, there should be 39 (40 minus 1) vacancies for P2C instead of 38. Note: There was no balloting for MGPS for P2B. As such, there would not have been the possibility that the last \"ball\" was a \"twin\" ball.
Still trying to understand how the system works. Tks.
Maybe interested parents can ask MOE bah -
sembgal:
I thought Phase 2b and Phase 2C suppose to have 50% in each. 2 girls' schools have more seats allocated to 2B than 2C that caught my attention. How could that be?
It's possible, if during phase 2B there's twin/ tripletsballoted successfully, they are counted as one so the extra places have to be taken away from phase 2c. -
wiltanws:
In ACSP' case there was no balloting as all SCs within 1km got in. Does that mean 2 pair of twins or 1 triplet registered and were/was within 1km so 2 vacancies are taken fr P2C?sembgal:
I thought Phase 2b and Phase 2C suppose to have 50% in each. 2 girls' schools have more seats allocated to 2B than 2C that caught my attention. How could that be?
It's possible, if during phase 2B there's twin/ tripletsballoted successfully, they are counted as one so the extra places have to be taken away from phase 2c.
Is this how it worked ? -
lepetitpenguin:
For MGS, after Phase 2A, there's 79 vacancy left, so 40 allocated to 2b and 39 allocated to 2c. There was 41 sc within 1km registered for 40 vacancy at 2B, one of them is a pair of twin. so one place is transferred from phase 2c to 2b to cater for this extra place required by the twin. all 41 sc within 1km admitted and no ballot required. that's why phase 2c is left with only 38.
Hello,lepetitpenguin:
Just thinking aloud here. Looking at the P2B Schools Conducting Balloting, I've noticed the following comments for the following schools,
\"The school has places for only SC children residing within 1km of the school. No balloting will be conducted.\"
The schools being, ACSJ (47/73), ACSP (24/31), Hong Wen (51/72), Kong Hwa (41/46), MGSP (40/57), SCGSP (22/23). ie. Name of school (2B vacancies/No. of children registered 2B).
Apart from Kong Hwa and SCGSP, the number of children registered for the schools mentioned far outnumbers the number of 2B vacancies. I find it interesting that the exact number accepted equals the exact number of SC within 1km. I'm guessing that this is only possible if the applicant (SC/PR) has the exact status of the registration numbers (including breakdown of SC, PR, Distance information) close to the closing of 2B on 23 Jul late afternoon and hence registers accordingly.
Somehow, the numbers seem too \"exact\" imho. Perhaps I'm missing something here.
Just curious. Tks.
Just adding to sembgal's comments. I've replicated my earlier post to facilitate referencing some of the vacancy numbers at end P2B (late 23 Jul).
Looking at MGPS:
At end P2B, 40 vacancies, 57 applied. All SC (1km) accepted. Vacancies at start of P2C, 41 enrolled (P2B) and 38 vacancies (P2C). I would think that at the start of P2B, vacancies would have been 40 (P2B) and 40 (P2C). Even if 1 pair of twins were enrolled at P2B, there should be 39 (40 minus 1) vacancies for P2C instead of 38. Note: There was no balloting for MGPS for P2B. As such, there would not have been the possibility that the last \"ball\" was a \"twin\" ball.
Still trying to understand how the system works. Tks. -
SAHM_TAN:
In ACSP' case there was no balloting as all SCs within 1km got in. Does that mean 2 pair of twins or 1 triplet registered and were/was within 1km so 2 vacancies are taken fr P2C?wiltanws:
[quote=\"sembgal\"]I thought Phase 2b and Phase 2C suppose to have 50% in each. 2 girls' schools have more seats allocated to 2B than 2C that caught my attention. How could that be?
It's possible, if during phase 2B there's twin/ tripletsballoted successfully, they are counted as one so the extra places have to be taken away from phase 2c.
Is this how it worked ?[/quote]
If no twins/triplets are involved, I can understand if school decides to take in just 1 extra but 2 or more should go for balloting. -
wiltanws:
For MGS, after Phase 2A, there's 79 vacancy left, so 40 allocated to 2b and 39 allocated to 2c. There was 41 sc within 1km registered for 40 vacancy at 2B, one of them is a pair of twin. so one place is transferred from phase 2c to 2b to cater for this extra place required by the twin. all 41 sc within 1km admitted and no ballot required. that's why phase 2c is left with only 38.[/quote]
Hello,lepetitpenguin:
[quote=\"lepetitpenguin\"]Just thinking aloud here. Looking at the P2B Schools Conducting Balloting, I've noticed the following comments for the following schools,
\"The school has places for only SC children residing within 1km of the school. No balloting will be conducted.\"
The schools being, ACSJ (47/73), ACSP (24/31), Hong Wen (51/72), Kong Hwa (41/46), MGSP (40/57), SCGSP (22/23). ie. Name of school (2B vacancies/No. of children registered 2B).
Apart from Kong Hwa and SCGSP, the number of children registered for the schools mentioned far outnumbers the number of 2B vacancies. I find it interesting that the exact number accepted equals the exact number of SC within 1km. I'm guessing that this is only possible if the applicant (SC/PR) has the exact status of the registration numbers (including breakdown of SC, PR, Distance information) close to the closing of 2B on 23 Jul late afternoon and hence registers accordingly.
Somehow, the numbers seem too \"exact\" imho. Perhaps I'm missing something here.
Just curious. Tks.
Just adding to sembgal's comments. I've replicated my earlier post to facilitate referencing some of the vacancy numbers at end P2B (late 23 Jul).
Looking at MGPS:
At end P2B, 40 vacancies, 57 applied. All SC (1km) accepted. Vacancies at start of P2C, 41 enrolled (P2B) and 38 vacancies (P2C). I would think that at the start of P2B, vacancies would have been 40 (P2B) and 40 (P2C). Even if 1 pair of twins were enrolled at P2B, there should be 39 (40 minus 1) vacancies for P2C instead of 38. Note: There was no balloting for MGPS for P2B. As such, there would not have been the possibility that the last \"ball\" was a \"twin\" ball.
Still trying to understand how the system works. Tks.
There is no balloting in the first place. So, does the school assume the 'last suppose to be rolled out is a twin ball'? Only the last ball if it is a twin ball, will have that extra seat. But in this case, there is no balloting at all. -
wiltanws:
For MGS, after Phase 2A, there's 79 vacancy left, so 40 allocated to 2b and 39 allocated to 2c. There was 41 sc within 1km registered for 40 vacancy at 2B, one of them is a pair of twin. so one place is transferred from phase 2c to 2b to cater for this extra place required by the twin. all 41 sc within 1km admitted and no ballot required. that's why phase 2c is left with only 38.
And I have earlier explained why those in Phase 2C had been robbed of 1 place by somebody taking an unjustified shortcut.pirate:
What MGS did is very wrong, and unfair to those in Phase 2C. If there is going to be an extra place conjured up without balloting, that vacancy should come out of thin air, not from Phase 2C. If I were in Phase 2C for MGS, I would raise a stink with MOE. But, I am not. I leave that to those parents actually applying in Phase 2C.No, it doesn't work like this.
There are 50 balls and 50 vacancies, but 51 places needed.
If the first ball that rolled out belonged to the twins, there would be 48 places left and 49 balls left in the cage, ie. 1 kid will be balloted out.
Likewise, if the twins' ball was the 2nd ball to fall out, or the 3rd... and so on and so forth.
Only if the twins' ball was the last to fall out would 51 places be taken up at the ballot.
The chance that the twins' ball would be the last to fall out is actually very slim.
Cannot anyhow take shortcut, otherwise it is not fair to the people in the next phase.
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