Does type of housing really matters?

[VitoRelax]

jedamum:

ks2me:

However, kids no matter what age they are, should be taught to respect all occupations as long as they earn a living in a decent way. 行行出状元, no matter what profession, if one knows how to do it well and extraordinarily, it can be cool... We should not let the kids stereotype the occupations if we want to encourage them to \"think out of the box\".

yes. just today ds1 watched Spongebob Squarepants when Squidward's (a character) rich cousin laughed at him for being a cashier; my boy asked me what's wrong with being a cashier; my husband explained that there is nothing wrong and that the cousin was being shallow and silly.

another vivid example of stereotyping of occupation came as a rude surprise when we attended a talk by my ds1's school - the speaker was talking about nurturing kids based on their inborn character 'colours'; what strike us as a rude comment is her statement of (something) like, '.....do you want your child to grow up to be just a hairdresser?\" what's wrong with being a hairdresser? she could have rephrase it to be 'do you want your child to grow up to be the best that she can?\" :roll: speaker from MOE-licensed vendor somemore.... :roll:

must :heresmyfish: :heresmyfish: :heresmyfish: the speaker & ask her to apologize ...

Ask the Association of Hairdresser to protest .... talk never use the blain ...

[buds]

Yah. Only use the hair.

[corneyAmber]

buds:

Yah. Only use the hair.

And still needs a \"hairdresser\" to take care for her. Not as if she can cut, perm, treat and style her \"dinner-occasion\" hair herself..... :lol:

[schweppes]

Actually what's wrong with being a hairdresser?!? Look at David Gan and Kim Robinson! Hairstylists to the stars and celebrities, and very successful in what they do! :roll:

[3Boys]

tankee:

true. But is it right to send them away to boarding school at very young age? unless it is due to circumstances unforseen, eg single-parent without family support, all children should grow up under the TLC of both their parents.

As I said, this is not a universal concept and children that grow up outside of it don't necessarily do too badly.

[skunk]

ks2me:

However, kids no matter what age they are, should be taught to respect all occupations as long as they earn a living in a decent way. 行行出状元, no matter what profession, if one knows how to do it well and extraordinarily, it can be cool... We should not let the kids stereotype the occupations if we want to encourage them to \"think out of the box\".

The first person who baked bread probably never think that there could be super bread chains like BreadTalk and Four Leaves today. The butcher(pig farmer) who now runs the multi-million Sheng Siong probably making his kids'(assuming he has kids) classmates heads turn today when yesterday they might think he/she was just a butcher's(pig farmer's) kid.

while we must respect all professions, it is also true that some professions are more highly valued than others. To put it in another way, all professions add value to humanity, but some add more than others.

A doctor will add more value to society than a butcher. A butcher requires a lower level of skill and training than a doctor, thus more people have the ability to become a butcher than be a doctor, and through supply and demand, their average salaries reflect that.

Many doctors might be able to re-train to become a butcher, but not many butchers can re-train to become a doctor. Last time is cut up bodies, now is sew up bodies, quite different LOL kidding.

Butchers who eventually make alot of money, say, by establishing a monopolistic network or set up a chain of butcheries, are actually no longer butchers but business-owners. So it's incorrect to say that one has a very good chance of being materially very rich by being a butcher, but one has a much greater chance by being a doctor.

What are the chances of any hairdresser becoming the next David Gan? Or every football-playing kid become a Beckham? It's not to say we should squash aspirations, but they should be conveyed accurately to any child. If a child aspires to be a hairdresser, reality should be made known to them:

1) Hairdressers usually don't make much money and work very long hours, even weekends....are they willing to do so?

2)Hairdressers who run their own salons, are actually not hairdressers, but business owners.

3)They would have a better chance of having a materially better life if they aspire to be a doctor/lawyer etc, but keep hairdressing as a hobby...would they be willing to consider an alternative route?

All these said, not putting down hairdressing or butchery.

[Blobbi]

buds:

Yah. Only use the hair.

:rotflmao: :rotflmao:

Otoh like Shweppes says, father can be David Gan or Ken Robinson - they'll only lift up the scissors for $500. Except like that, sure they got kid or not ...?

[tankee]

jedamum:

.....another vivid example of stereotyping of occupation came as a rude surprise when we attended a talk by my ds1's school - the speaker was talking about nurturing kids based on their inborn character 'colours'; what strike us as a rude comment is her statement of (something) like, '.....do you want your child to grow up to be just a hairdresser?\" what's wrong with being a hairdresser? she could have rephrase it to be 'do you want your child to grow up to be the best that she can?\" :roll: speaker from MOE-licensed vendor somemore.... :roll:

:shock: :shock: :shock: shocking.

[tankee]

3Boys:

tankee:

true. But is it right to send them away to boarding school at very young age? unless it is due to circumstances unforseen, eg single-parent without family support, all children should grow up under the TLC of both their parents.

As I said, this is not a universal concept and children that grow up outside of it don't necessarily do too badly.

and most likely these kids will be ones that will send their children to boarding school in the future.

they may do well career wise, but would they know the the true meaning of \"family\"?

[corneyAmber]

skunk:

while we must respect all professions, it is also true that some professions are more highly valued than others. To put it in another way, all professions add value to humanity, but some add more than others.

A doctor will add more value to society than a butcher. A butcher requires a lower level of skill and training than a doctor, thus more people have the ability to become a butcher than be a doctor, and through supply and demand, their average salaries reflect that.

Many doctors might be able to re-train to become a butcher, but not many butchers can re-train to become a doctor. Last time is cut up bodies, now is sew up bodies, quite different LOL kidding.

Butchers who eventually make alot of money, say, by establishing a monopolistic network or set up a chain of butcheries, are actually no longer butchers but business-owners. So it's incorrect to say that one has a very good chance of being materially very rich by being a butcher, but one has a much greater chance by being a doctor.

What are the chances of any hairdresser becoming the next David Gan? Or every football-playing kid become a Beckham? It's not to say we should squash aspirations, but they should be conveyed accurately to any child. If a child aspires to be a hairdresser, reality should be made known to them:

1) Hairdressers usually don't make much money and work very long hours, even weekends....are they willing to do so?

2)Hairdressers who run their own salons, are actually not hairdressers, but business owners.

3)They would have a better chance of having a materially better life if they aspire to be a doctor/lawyer etc, but keep hairdressing as a hobby...would they be willing to consider an alternative route?

All these said, not putting down hairdressing or butchery.

I agree with the general facts that you have mentioned and not all things are equal but I would be different in my communication by putting in another dimension. What I mean is my emphasis to my child will not be on the stereotype definition of the occupation to determine cool or not cool , my emphasis would be what you want and can make out of an occupation. That should also open up their minds to think that some extra-ordinary people can also change the mundane description of their occupation and make a difference rather than focus on the definition alone. It is the strength of the mind that I would like to emphasize on and lastly, whatever occupation, it is really how one makes out of it at the end of the day to make it cool or not cool. I know of a surgeon who messed up a surgery big time and the mistake was more severe than a hairdresser who messed up another case. Both are not cool in my opinion. What is cool is the best effort put into every profession, doctor or hairdresser. But if cool is ONLY limited to the amount of money made, then I rest my case.

That is what makes parenting interesting, we probably have the same goals for our children but approach it differently.