Catholic High (Primary)
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phankao:
Anyway, my p5 boy tells me that there are a few p5 boys who were posted to 5goodness after being asked to drop GEP after p4. I'd not heard of boys dropping out of GEP in Cath High before ... and just after 1 year .. hmm...[/quote]Wow... and during the previous GEP briefing they told us that last year GEP (which currently P5), there is zero drop out... hhmmm... I wonder whether the statistics is correct...syshi:
good guessing... Maybe that's how they come out with the term GEM...
Ha.. Ha... That's what I told my DS... You're in GEP and they are not... so maybe the teacher trying to give the other encouragement...
[quote=\"phankao\"]let me guess: Gifted Education with the Mainstream?
Whateva lah. Your son is in GEP. Goodness is not. why he sad? -
syshi:
Actually, we may never know the truth. What could happen is that (1)the boys could have asked to be taken out of GEP, or .. (2) the school *encouraged* them to request to be taken out of GEP. Then become \"zero\" dropout rate, right?
Wow... and during the previous GEP briefing they told us that last year GEP (which currently P5), there is zero drop out... hhmmm... I wonder whether the statistics is correct...phankao:
Anyway, my p5 boy tells me that there are a few p5 boys who were posted to 5goodness after being asked to drop GEP after p4. I'd not heard of boys dropping out of GEP in Cath High before ... and just after 1 year .. hmm...
Just like if we were asked by company to *resign* instead of being *sacked*. -
syshi:
Your son must be having a hard time then, having to \"manage\" such a noisy class - really not easy. May be get form teacher to help him with a system of writing down the names of those very noisy ones on the board and get them to stay back or other punishment??
Agree... my DS told me that his class very noisy... few times he shouted at them when teacher not around as he is the Deputy Captain.. cause he can't stand the noise.. -
pecalis:
previously the form teacher punished the whole class due to those few 'noisy' children by not giving them recess or shorten the time. Or going back slightly late... My DS was so mad as he felt that he got punished for no mistake of his... But he didn't dare to confront form teacher... Just before the school GEP briefing, all was restored... Else I think my DS will hate the GEP program...
Your son must be having a hard time then, having to \"manage\" such a noisy class - really not easy. May be get form teacher to help him with a system of writing down the names of those very noisy ones on the board and get them to stay back or other punishment??syshi:
Agree... my DS told me that his class very noisy... few times he shouted at them when teacher not around as he is the Deputy Captain.. cause he can't stand the noise.. -
phankao:
Actually, we may never know the truth. What could happen is that (1)the boys could have asked to be taken out of GEP, or .. (2) the school *encouraged* them to request to be taken out of GEP. Then become \"zero\" dropout rate, right?
yup... Those 'common' trick to make the statistic looks good... Those few 'kicked' out from GEP were from FA or GO?
Just like if we were asked by company to *resign* instead of being *sacked*. -
syshi:
previously the form teacher punished the whole class due to those few 'noisy' children by not giving them recess or shorten the time. Or going back slightly late... My DS was so mad as he felt that he got punished for no mistake of his... But he didn't dare to confront form teacher... Just before the school GEP briefing, all was restored... Else I think my DS will hate the GEP program...
I always encourage my son to speak up if he thinks that it is not a fair punishment. However, if he chooses to keep quiet, then I tell him that he has to suffer the consequence together with the rest
(in his previous class, boys always get punished and he could name me girls that misbehave too and felt that he did not contribute to the noise level) Being fair is very impt to DS. However, I challenge him to look out for those not treated fairly and speak up for them. However, if it's for his own rights, always tell him it's ok and learn to let go, since life is never fair to begin with, better accept that. My main struggle with DS is: how to put him in difficult situation to train his EQ.
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pecalis:
Agree on that... tried talking to DS on this too to train his EQ...syshi:
previously the form teacher punished the whole class due to those few 'noisy' children by not giving them recess or shorten the time. Or going back slightly late... My DS was so mad as he felt that he got punished for no mistake of his... But he didn't dare to confront form teacher... Just before the school GEP briefing, all was restored... Else I think my DS will hate the GEP program...
I always encourage my son to speak up if he thinks that it is not a fair punishment. However, if he chooses to keep quiet, then I tell him that he has to suffer the consequence together with the rest (in his previous class, boys always get punished and he could name me girls that misbehave too and felt that he did not contribute to the noise level) Being fair is very impt to DS. However, I challenge him to look out for those not treated fairly and speak up for them. However, if it's for his own rights, always tell him it's ok and learn to let go, since life is never fair to begin with, better accept that. My main struggle with DS is: how to put him in difficult situation to train his EQ.
Seems like a 'common trait' shown across some of the GEP children I met that they are a bit 'Straight' not enough EQ. Similar to my DS
For other kids, my DS dare to speak up.. but not for himself... :stupid: -
Ha ha, we call our DS robot - tit tit one, cannot bend at all. When he gets upset or cry over little things, we’ll tease him that his low EQ is at work. Always emphasize to him that IQ can only bring him that far but EQ is more impt in life. Of course, high EQ but no moral values is also not what we desire.
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pecalis:
Ha ha, we call our DS robot - tit tit one, cannot bend at all. When he gets upset or cry over little things, we'll tease him that his low EQ is at work. Always emphasize to him that IQ can only bring him that far but EQ is more impt in life. Of course, high EQ but no moral values is also not what we desire.
Yup... slight problem my DS will get very very upset... sometimes I'll ask him what he can achieve by getting upset or crying? He'll need to think of the solution himself...
Any method to improve the EQ parts aside from 'nagging' at them often? Tried 'talking' to him... whenever the 'Logic' part of the brain working, he will agree... but whenever the 'feeling' part of the brain working, he won't listen... -
Last yr, we requested tt DS be put in the same group as a difficult/annoying boy. Form teacher was surprised but gladly obliged
When he gets upset with sisters, hubby made them sit on the bench of settlement to talk things out, share what is it that cause frustrations (without getting emotional or raising voice), learn to listen to the other party without interrupting, apologise for the wrong done, forgive the other party and make up. I find this method very useful but can be rather tedious. We will be somewhere nearby and listening to them. We'll step in to help settle if they are stuck and couldn't move on.
I also quarrel with DS, so sometimes also got to be on the bench of settlement, hee hee.
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