Can child care reject hyper active or dyslexia student?
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agree with schweppes.
I had a kid who is all bright eyed and eager all the time. And many a times, in rushing to follow the teachers’ instructions, he pushes or shoves others away. And if the kid being pushed or shoved reacts, that is when a fight will breakout between the 2. Once we understand that the kid is not intentionally violent but just overly excited, we find ways to address that issue. With normal kids, we will try to teach the child to wait his turn. But for a special needs child, we have to find other ways. So for this instance, the teacher will tell the rest of the children wait while this kid gets to move ahead first. And this kid is placed in front of the class, sits near/beside the teacher and when moving from place to place, the teacher will hold on to him firmly.
As the teachers and children spend more time with such children, they will recognise certain triggers as well. I had another child who is ADHD and whenever he is upset over some things, he will growl. During such times, the teacher will know to call me or my supervisor for backup before he goes into overdrive.
While our hearts go out to these children and their parents, we also understand the frustration of parents of normal kids who may be affected by the inclusion of the special needs child in the class. As such, it is very important for each centre to make sure that their environment and their teachers are able to handle the needs of such children without causing too much upheavals before accepting them. -
WaWa:
Tolerance & understanding are the key word. Yes you are absolutely right. This only apply when you are living in the ideal school with ideal kids. You think all the kids so obedient and tolerance?** Nodding Head **
Agree with Schweppes & 2ppaamm. A little understanding, plus tolerance & acceptance goes a long way.
Agree With Funz... Autism is no \"better than\" ADHD nor is it worse than ADHD. They are just 2 different condition but may at times \"share a few similarities\".
When an autistic kid tantrums or flares up, it can be pretty violent & destructive too (just the same as ADHD kid)... yes sometimes we are able to \"see the signs coming\" and we can then quickly manage the situation to avoid allowing them to escalate to such level of intensity. However, there are times we cannot foresee the tantrums coming & it unfortunately \"goes a little out of hand\".... and they become seen as a \"nuisance\" to HappyDaddy or like-minded individuals like HappyDaddy.
I fully agree with the statement made by Schweppes - it is NOT a case of us saying that the special needs kids should be accorded all privileges & benefit, at the expense of others.
It is about having a little understanding, acceptance, tolerance & compassion that goes a long way for a gracious society. It is about working together with them & with the right authority to address the issue in a positive manner.
There is a reason why God creates \"special needs people\" ... perhaps one of the reasons is to \"help the normal people slow down, breathe & and instill compassion into this society which would otherwise have been too caught up in the mad rat race; making it less than desired for humankind...not to even mention graciousness!
We have to be mindful that although being normal is a privilege; it doesn't give us the \"above all\" privilege ... we have no right to \"get rid\" of people just because you cannot tolerate a humankind that is \"less than perfect\" in your eyes... or just because you feel your normal child's progress is impeded by a less than perfect child.
Tolerance & understanding is key here.... if you really cannot tolerate such \"abnormal behaviour\", do consider transferring your child out of the CC rather than trying to make the CC \"get rid\" of that child.
And please do not change tact by saying this post is about hyperactive kids & not autism nor special needs in general ...cos your last sentence clearly states \"Having hyper active & dyslexia kids kids really make the centre looks dis-organised\"! And how does dyslexia \"disturb\" you now ?
The CC is private organisation and profit oriented. You think in K2, they will put in another spec teacher or asst teacher just to handle them? If they do, prepare to hear another round of fee increment.
Right now, this CC, i personally feel it is not suitable for spec need student. They only have 1 teacher to handle the class and the class is big.
And worst, the teacher is inexperience. In this environment, you think this spec kid is better off in this CC or go to another CC where less kid and the teacher will focus more on him?
In this evironment, i think the kid should go to another CC where there is a teacher specialise in spec need. For the benefit of the rest.
You want to save a tree and sacrifice the entire forest? -
happydaddy:
Sorry I don't get you - you mean tolerance can only be applied if you are in \"ideal school\" with \"ideal kids\"??\" So, if the school is not \"ideal\" or the kids \"are not ideal\", then there is no need to exercise tolerance & understanding???? Ah...no wonder such hostility & self-centredness.
Tolerance & understanding are the key word. Yes you are absolutely right. This only apply when you are living in the ideal school with ideal kids. You think all the kids so obedient and tolerance?
To me, exercising tolerance & understanding is what makes the environment \"ideal\". And to me, there is no such thing as \"ideal school\"... you just have to make do...or, u can keep searching for your \"definition of ideal school\" with \"ideal kids\". Precisely, not all kids are obedient & tolerant (not tolerance) ... which is why i said your son can end up fighting other boys in other school as well. I am not suggesting your son is naughty ...what I am trying to highlight to you is that there will be others (normal kids) in future who will \"disturb\" or \"provoke\" your son & your son will end up fighting them too ... are we going to expel all who fought with your son? In case you misunderstand me again, I am also not saying your son is at fault for fighting. I fully understand that as a child , he may not understand the situation & he may feel provoked by the boy's behaviour & hence, retaliation thru' fighting is the only reaction/solution he could think of, which is expected of a young child; expected of juveniles. However, i do not expect you to think like your son ; let alone condone what he has done by asking us to imagine ourselves to be in his shoes. Why can't you imagine yourself to be in the shoes of the hyperactive boy then? You painted such a sorry picture of your son but spared no empathy for the other child.
We , as parents , ought to be more level-headed & explain to our children (your son in this case) that this classmate has a special need, it was never an intended act of antagonism by this classmate and hence, why he should maintain his composure next time, AND at the same time , work with the management of the CC to tackle the issue by asking them if they have in place concrete procedures to prevent future occurrence; withdrawing your son as a last resort (ie when u feel the school is still unable to cope which is how u are feeling now ).
I do not expect you to even condone what your son has done by calling that boy a \"nuisance\" - how do u feel if i call your son \"nuisance\" ??? This is basic courtesy right? Your son has a mother so does the hyperactive boy....for an Adult to call people names ... worse , in this case an Adult calling a kid names ... is such a low blow, really.
What's more ... your immediate \"resolution\" following the fight was \"how to expel this nuisance\" .... and so far you have shown no remorse in your choice of words in your initial hostile post. Wait till another adult calls your son all sorts of names ... u tell me how u feel. My guess is you may even fight that parent (ok i apologise for digressing & assuming...but i m just trying to lead you to think deeper )
Also, You seem to have changed tact. Your initial focus was the boy being a nuisance and was thinking of ways to remove him. But now, after garnering some flaks in your original post, you start to focus more on the teacher's inability to manage the boy and hence why you think the boy might be better in a special sch setting.happydaddy:
Precisely. Who is the tree here and who is the forest here is not for you to decide. What you see as angelic might appear as devils to others. For all you know, your son might be the tree. We can never be too sure.
You want to save a tree and sacrifice the entire forest?
And you haven't answered me, how does dyslexia makes the CC looks dis-organised?
Lee Kuan Yew is dyslexic - does Singapore look disorganised to you?
http://www.das.org.sg/aboutdyslexia/whohas.htm -
Actually, happydaddy, just wondering how you would feel if your child, in his later years tests positively with a learning disability. Just a random thought, but a very real one.
I can never imagine myself to have a special needs child. In fact, my child was only diagnosed end of P3, very close to 10 years old. So, if one day, you see that your child has a mild form of some learning disabilities, how would you react? … Just wondering… -
//Moderator's note: Post edited to remove inflamatory content. KiasuParents.com does not permit name calling of any kind. We can always bring across our unhappiness in a civil fashion that stimulates constructive discussions, which do not degenerate into pointless arguments.
happydaddy:
XXXXXX! Why does the pot always call the kettle black? :siao:My son CC has a nuisance classmate in K2. He is hyper active. He creates a list of problem for the teacher and disturb his classmate.
Recently my kid has a fight with him as he keep disturbing him. What action can we done to get rid of this kid? Can he attend normal CC? or special need shool? Can the school expel him? Having hyper active and dyslexia kids really make the centre looks dis-organise.
Do not blame another kid when you are at fault for not giving your child proper upbringing.
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