Pei Hwa Presbyterian Primary

[Nebbermind]

X_ist:

How can any email, being a private one be posted on the public forums when it is not meant to be?


The feedback is still in resolution thus should never be made public for others to judge when they do not understand the details of the situation.

please let this case rest.

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[janet88]

parents are free to post bouquets and brickbats…but some level of sensitivity should be exercised whether those who still have a stake or not.

[dtck3004]

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[Vagabond]

I have three children currently attending Pei Hwa. I had the opportunity to read the email before it was deleted, and while I agree that it is probably not wise to post the entire email (being private in nature) onto this public forum, the information shared is nevertheless still relevant and worrying. Especially so when my youngest child is also in Primary two this year. I checked with my girl and she confirmed that on Feb 14, three children from Respect 9 were sent to her class. I just hope that the school will handle this feedback swiftly and come out with appropriate measures. Seems like the staff deployment has gone from bad to worse. During my sons' time, their P1 and P2 classes had experienced being left alone unsupervised for an entire period with no teacher a few times. Now, it's an entire class with no teacher for the whole day!


This is my first post on this thread, and sorry that it has to be a brickbat.

[cool_hi]

embel:

php:

how come so many delete post? did i miss out anything?

Although several posts have been deleted, I still wish to speak my mind about this matter...

Essentially, a group of P2 parents collectively sent an email to the principal, wanting to meet with her, to talk the state of affairs about this particular class - frequent absence of the class teachers, which affected the students' learning.

A copy of the email was then posted here by a parent, after which, he/she was being \"questioned\" regarding his/her intentions for posting the email.

As a fellow Pei Hwa parent, I don't see why the email can't be posted in this Pei Hwa thread. This thread allows parents to share with one another information pertaining to the school, be it positive or negative aspects of the school. I don't suppose the person who posted the email was trying to incite an uprising?? More likely, it is for sharing purposes only. In fact, it also serves as a reminder to other parents to be more vigilant about their children's learning in school.
Over the 1960 pages, I am grateful to past and present PH parents who are willing to share freely about their children's experiences with the school, both good and bad. I am sure many others parents have benefitted too.

No school is perfect. Parents should feel free to post both their bouquets and brickbats towards the school, without fear of being attacked or put down by others, especially those who no longer have a stake in the school.

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Hi Embel,
Thanks for your post!
you have spoken up for a small group of parents, who has been intimidated into silence as their sharing of info/feedback, especially the negative ones, have always been blown whistles, and questioned/reprimanded in the most impolite ways.

I also had the opportunity to read the email, and the reprimanding respond from a parent, before they were deleted..
YES, maybe the exact email should not be posted here..
BUT trust me, from my past experiences HERE(without posting exact letter to principal), even if that parent simply mentioned/complained about the inappropriate staffing problems HERE, whistles will be blown too!! & similar questions will be still asked on true intention of the posting, in the most impolite intimidating ways. Questions can be raised, but not in a way that put people down or downplay parents' concerns. Even if you do not agree/empathize with the parents, I think no one like to jeered at, over their genuine concerns, especially from people whose kids are not involved/parent who have never experienced similar vexing experiences.

I thank that parent for bringing attention to this staffing problem and agree with Embel(in bold), which mentioned that the post serves a reminder for parents to be more vigilant to their children's studies/what is happening in school, especially when most parents are so so busy that there is not much communication with kids, sadly.. & why do I thank that parent??
Yesterday night, I chatted with my girl and mentioned about teachers taking leave+this class' students being split up to go different classes..
guess what she said??
Oh! Last year, when Mrs Xxx on leave, that happened to our class also!!
I was shocked!!! I asked her why she did not mentioned to me?!
she only gave me a blank look!! that moment, I felt so bad!!
An obvious Communication breakdown!! I was aware that their form teacher was on long leave(around 1 month), but it did not occur to me to check and question on what kind of arrangement was done to handle the class!!
I count myself lucky that, it happened last year end,after exam, so there is not much impact on learning for the students!
and thus I strongly agree with what Embel said, do not read so much into a post that actually acts as a reminder to parents to be vigilant!!
& what does this tell about the school's management? especially since it did happen just last year end?
I empathize with this group of parents as p2 has streaming.

I think there is no need to ask the true intention of the post,as I am sure most parents post with the purpose of sharing..
& in the 1st place, why do some parents think they have the right to keep blowing the whistles? and act as if this is their OWN forum, for their OWN 'ga gi'? if u do not sing same tune or stand on their sides, u will be 'gunned down'?? If that is the case, kindly go set up your own personal blog and gather your own people to sing the same tunes..
This forum would have failed in the sharing purpose, if some small group of parents have to keep their silence, for fear of being reprimanded/intimidated.
THIS is a mild form of cyber-bullying.

Am mentally prepared for stones to thrown in my direction(NOT the 1st time anyway..)
to be frank,believe it or not, it took me a lot of thinking(through the whole night) and courage to write this post..

Thanks!

[janet88]

this forum is free.

if the exact email had not been uploaded…many parents would be able to relate to frustrations about missing teachers. whether it is p2 or p6, I would be upset too, as there has been no proper class management. my son had encountered this and there were also incidents when the teacher screamed at the top of her voice at some lower primary kids for a trivial issue.

[dyh]

Sharing is fine.

But I think should wait until the P reply before posting both sides of the story to be fair.
Cheers.

[embel]

janet_lee88:

this forum is free.

if the exact email had not been uploaded...many parents would be able to relate to frustrations about missing teachers. whether it is p2 or p6, I would be upset too, as there has been no proper class management. my son had encountered this and there were also incidents when the teacher screamed at the top of her voice at some lower primary kids for a trivial issue.

Exactly this forum is free, and for parents to share with each other what is happening school.

For us a small group of parents, the issue is not whether to post the email or not, whether in full, or just a description of the situation. The issue here is one parent should not question the intention of the parent who posted the email. The exact words were \"What do you hope to achieve by doing this?\". And the parent ended it with a word \"Think\".

To some of us who read it, such a way of questioning is very condescending and rude.

There are always many sides to any story. Even if one were to disagree, there is no need to go in such a line of questioning to put others down.

[iRabbit]

Last night I had the chance to communicate with several parents who initiated the original email. We talked and agreed on 2 things:


a) manpower allocation is a problem and needs to be resolved (urgently) by the sch;

b) it was wrong to publish the email publicly as it contained personal data (of both parents and teachers).

Three parents separately requested that I delete my post quoting that email which I complied immediately.

Now whether one has no longer a stake in the sch once he leaves, or seeking clarification on the objectives of certain posts is termed as intimidation is beside the point. What’s really impt is that the P2ers affected get the required support from the sch … bcos streaming starts at P3.

One of the initators of that email has requested that we allow the sch time to resolve the issue. Surely we can be gracious enough to do so.

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