Any parents of gifted children here ?
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tamarind:
Without Math, we probably wouldn't need money, therefore no need for ATMs? Without Math, nobody will be able to do calculations and build houses, therefore no need for engineering software? Without Internet, I'll probably spend more time with the kids than sitting in front of the computer screen & feeling guilty about it? :lol:Every time you use google, read or write in this forum, draw money from the ATM, or made a phone call on your mobile phone, do spare a thought for all those software engineers and software architects who made all these possible for you :mrgreen:
OK I think there is enough talk about this point already
I was responding to EN's question about how to develop creativity. Any other ideas ?
Finally we are agreeable on one point - enough talk on this
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Chamonix wrote [quote]I would like to think a creative person has the ability and power to turn his/her ideas into something useful for people, be it programming, arts, science, maths, English etc...[/quote]
I agree!
Tamarind wrote [quote]My brother is doing scientific research in a university, it is quite different from the industry where everything you do must be profitable. Usually the university is happy to support any new project or ideas.[/quote]My ideas are ignored because it will impact how people work. It's not easy to create a change especially if people are resistant to it. If I get a good monthy pay (not sure if GBP 2700 is a good pay) without any pressure to show result, I will not be motivated. There's no stress, no incentive for me to work harder. So why work hard, when any change in effort result in the same compensation or recognition. -
EN:
If I get a good monthy pay (not sure if GBP 2700 is a good pay) without any pressure to show result, I will not be motivated. There's no stress, no incentive for me to work harder. So why work hard, when any change in effort result in the same compensation or recognition.
GBP 2700 is not a good pay since they live in the UK where they have to pay more than 30% tax. He must perform and show results in order to stay on the job. Sigh..it is not easy doing scientific research. -
Tamarind, thank you for taking time & effort to look through the book.
To both Tamarind & Chamonix. Thanks again for giving some thoughts & opinion on the book. The question that Chamonix post which incidently is the same one I tried to cover with my ds on that day is such a passion killer that I don't take the effort to look through the whole book. It was only yesterday when I see there is a different of opinion that I gather the courage & spare some time to look through at it again beyond page 1. :oops:
I hope ds find math as a game to play. It's the only way to enjoy learning & not think it as a chore. I hope it has ripple effects too. When a person feels good about something, he is likely to feel good about everything.
Okay. We can now go back to think how to help enrich our children with creativity. Back to the point. Any ideas? Also, there is a fine line between nurturing passion & balancing school work. Any suggestion? -
Hi En,
I'm not sure if you would consider this book Challenging Math 4-1 as a passion killer. This book is highly recommended if the kid is looking for challenging questions.
On the topic of creativity, I suppose 'free play' is very important in allowing room for creativity and imagination. Seriously, I don't have a list of activities in developing creativity.
Btw, does creativity goes hand in hand with critical thinking?
[quote]Also, there is a fine line between nurturing passion & balancing school work. [/quote] Tough question.. -
Recently, I bought a 3D puzzle for my younger son. He must have found it challenging and ask his older brother for help. Then, they are able to create many different models together. I mean together. I think finding the right toys for your kids is the most important thing.
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chamonix wrote [quote]I'm not sure if you would consider this book Challenging Math 4-1 as a passion killer.[/quote]
I do bought 2 Challenging Math for P1 books for my ds to work on. But have not seen or heard Challenging Math 4-1. Can it be found in Popular? I consider any topic a passion killer as long as it does not hold interest or too difficult/too easy for my child to work on.
Here is some interesting article that I read.
http://giftedkids.about.com/od/nurturinggiftsandtalents/i/nurture_push_2.htm
Chamonix wrote [quote] Btw, does creativity goes hand in hand with critical thinking? [/quote]Good question! I don't know the answer but am glad I goggle. :lol:
There are several other sites which I'm too sleepy to look through. But I do like the content of the following site.
http://www.growmymind.com/creativity/creative-critical-thinking.htm
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Also, there is a fine line between nurturing passion & balancing school work.
Come next year, I'm pondering when I can do the 2 math books with him & carry out science experiment without affecting his school work. Just need to finalize my next year schedule & I think I should have some time to squeeze.
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As usual, I'm joining in the conversation late.
A few thoughts on creativity:
- creativity at its height is cross-disciplinary. Highly creative individuals usually draw inspiration from disparate fields, but root their creations in their respective fields.
- creativity is both like a plant and a storm. It takes time to grow and develop, at the same time brainwaves may come in a flash (after that growth period).
- at the same time, I subscribe to Montessori/Waldorf early childhood ideas of truth and beauty in the early years, and spending time in Nature. Nature's designs are both mathematical and artistic, and perfect for young minds and active bodies.
- as they get older, quality open-end toys and close-end toys. We spend time going to plays and orchestral performances, we also take time to examine gears and basic machines.
- of course, quality/whimsical books provide grist for the mill.
- all important free time to let their minds wander and execute ideas.
- discussions with adults refine their ideas and help to trouble-shoot.
My kids are young, so the activities we do may not be relevant to those of you with older children. But generally, I think as long as you give the child quality grist for the mill, and thereafter, allow him free play, he'll ... well, find his way! -
EN:
However, do beware that it also depends on the teacher openness & teaching experience.
I realised this belatedly...ie after school year ended! :oops: I heard such good things about this teacher I doubted my judgement as a mother. the teacher insisted that DS1's behavioural problems was because of a new sibling, that it was a very common phenomenon and she's helping by giving him the space to \"let out his frustrations\" in school. When I suggested that he was bored (ok, not very tactful I guess), she cited some studies that said children must do things 8 times to learn it. :roll:
But now looking at how loving DS1 is towards DS2, and how much happier he is, I know she was definitely off the mark. The home situation has not changed at all. What has changed is that there are no longer anyone making him learn the same things 8 times, and there are no longer any children secretly pinching him and scratching him. No more adults who say - as long as no one cries, I don't want to hear about any of it.
The good thing is now even my ILs think I'm right to pull him out of school next year. My FIL actually told me a few days ago that finally, DS1 is back to himself again and he supports my decision. -
Hi En,
The book can be found in Popular Bookstore.
Thanks for the site on creative vs critical thinking. Still trying to digest it
As for striking a balance between school work and nurturing passion, I hope I wouldn't be so caught up with the rat race that I sacrifice the latter unwittingly.
Hi deminc,
Great to hear that you have worked out a favourable situation for your son. Well, sometimes school isn't the answer to everything. As long as you can provide time and an enriching environment, your kids will definitely benefit more from attending any schools.
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