IP vs O level
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Sorry if I have created any misunderstandings.
I am all for IP System. In fact, it is so good a system that it should be made the default system of our Secondary Education.
As far as I know, the present IP System is serving very well for the bright students. I only hear of praises from educators, parents, and students who are under the system.
However, I am seeing the important features of the IP system that is good for more students, irrespective of whether they are bright or not-so-bright. In fact, for the bright students, whether O-level or IP, they will still be on fast track and excel. However, for the not-so-bright student, we should ask what is the best system for them? O-level or IP?
There is no "new system" involved. All present systems are already in place: IP, O-level, N-level … and even IB. The present default system is O-level. Is it not time to switch the default system to IP?
Please do not be confused with 2 things:
1) Our present default system is not N-level. The switch of default system does not involve the N-level system.
2) Overnight switch is not the style of Singapore government. They will start with some pioneering batch and etc. We have to leave that to them to work out the details.
As parents, educators and netizens, when seeing the superiority of an education system, we naturally ask how the system can be of benefit to more students. The IP system has been running for years now and we know it is a superior system. Why not use it more widely instead of keeping it as an exclusive system for few? -
IP for all may have many constraints and problems, eg:
1. Not enough schools and facilities.
2. Many students prefer to go to Poly.
3. Not all students are academically inclined.
4. For the averge students, if we force them to go thru to A levels, their A level results may just mediocre, so they will only have a mediocre A level results to show.
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Hi Bentan, so far, from what you have seen, are these IP students coping well with \"A\" levels ? Are there students find \"A\" levels difficult and not doing well ? If yes, roughly the % in the database you have encountered. TIA
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frankly speaking, some students are better off on the O-level route. IP is not suitable for them.
Especially those who cannot be left alone to study on their own and those who do not have an inquiring mind.
Based on what I know, at least for the IP students whom I came in contact with, students are taught some parts of a topic and for the rest of the topic, onus is on the students to go and find out on their own or learn on their own. -
If IP is made the default system, it can definitely integrate well with both JC and Poly.
We should allow students to IP through Poly as well. This will definitely raise the standard of our Polys. Integrating IP with Poly is so much easier as Poly has more than 3 months (Jan to Mar) to do whatever they want to make sure the students are up to the standard before they commence Poly life.
At http://singapore.math-chinese-tutor.com, more than 50% of our students are from neighborhood school. They come to tuition with aspiration and dreams. Some want to go Singapore Poly to do aeronautical engineering and thereafter NUS and finally fly for at least a budget airline. Some had learning problems at childhood but aspire to do sports medicine. Some aspire to do bakery at Temasek Poly and become an entrepreneur, specializing in chocolate food. As parents, if you talk to your children who are in secondary school about their aspiration and ask them if they want to IP-through to their dream-JC or dream-Poly, the answer is likely to be Yes.
By making IP the default system, we are not doing away O-level, N-level ... etc. Students can still opt-out of IP if they feel that they \"are better off on the O-level route”. -
Bentan:
Well, there are schools that are IP. Just Pay!If IP is made the default system, it can definitely integrate well with both JC and Poly.
We should allow students to IP through Poly as well. This will definitely raise the standard of our Polys. Integrating IP with Poly is so much easier as Poly has more than 3 months (Jan to Mar) to do whatever they want to make sure the students are up to the standard before they commence Poly life..
All the international schools are \"IP\". SJI(International), ACS(International), HCI(International), etc, etc. Many of my dd & ds's friends who had poor PSLE scores are in these schools. Those with rich parents though!
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ooptimizer:
1. I'm sure there are enough facilities - the IP schools are taking as much students as they have been before the commencement of IP.IP for all may have many constraints and problems, eg:
1. Not enough schools and facilities.
2. Many students prefer to go to Poly.
3. Not all students are academically inclined.
4. For the averge students, if we force them to go thru to A levels, their A level results may just mediocre, so they will only have a mediocre A level results to show.
etc
2. If they want to go poly, why would they go IP?
3. Those who aren't academically inclined won't go IP, they won't even qualify.
4. Again, IP is only for top students, no average students are involved. -
phankao:
HCIS is NOT IP.
Well, there are schools that are IP. Just Pay!Bentan:
If IP is made the default system, it can definitely integrate well with both JC and Poly.
We should allow students to IP through Poly as well. This will definitely raise the standard of our Polys. Integrating IP with Poly is so much easier as Poly has more than 3 months (Jan to Mar) to do whatever they want to make sure the students are up to the standard before they commence Poly life.. All the international schools are \"IP\". SJI(International), ACS(International), HCI(International), etc, etc. Many of my dd & ds's friends who had poor PSLE scores are in these schools. Those with rich parents though! -
xxjustakidxx:
HCIS is NOT IP.
It is a 6-year through-train programme. No O-levels.
http://www2.hcis.edu.sg/joomla/hcis9/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=52&Itemid=56
http://www.hcis.edu.sg/ -
phankao:
Integrated programme only refers to the programme that certified schools offer. Please note that HCIS is NOT HCI. Same for SOTA, we don't call that IP.xxjustakidxx:
HCIS is NOT IP.
It is a 6-year through-train programme. No O-levels.
http://www2.hcis.edu.sg/joomla/hcis9/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=52&Itemid=56
http://www.hcis.edu.sg/
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