Dad jailed for hitting son

[autumnbronze]

lovekidsverymuch:

hmmm there r 2 sides of the story if the dad is really very angry why not give him warning or fine then leave him by saying not to do another time then on the other side if the kid really injured badly then punish the dad but why not just cane him why JAIL HIM dunno :?

lovekidsverymuch,

Firstly, a one yr old kid was involved. He cannot defend himself physically or verbally (unless he can talk coherently)

Secondly, this is not the first beating of toddler case. Think they are coming down hard cuz if you remember another case recently, the father or stepfather caused the death of a 2 yr old girl due to his disciplinary measures.

[skunk]

autumnbronze:

the father or stepfather caused the death of a 2 yr old girl due to his disciplinary measures.

i think shouldn't use the word \"discipline\" with these cases....it's no longer about disciplining the child, but rather, abusing and venting frustration on the child :x

Children under 5 years old are easy to discipline, just scold harshly, or whack the floor with a roll of newspaper to let them know Daddy is angry, is more than enough to let them know they're doing something bad. Above 5, maybe a whack on the bum with the cane will let them know not to do it again.

Even my baby girl is receptive. When she plays with electric wires, i would yell at her and show an angry face, she would instantly stop and crawl away.

Those cases are obviously abuse and not discipline :x

[skunk]

lovekidsverymuch:

it sends wrong signals to few ppl saying the police is very strict of any personal things also like beating a kid (though i know he is 1 yo only)

yes, nowadays many parents do not punish their children physically anymore. I believe a certain amount of corporal punishment is essential to bring up proper kids. A little bit of whacking on the bum with a cane will never harm a kid. What hurts on the skin, nourishes the soul

Actually 1 year old also can discipline....ask the child to go stand in the corner. Or yell/scold the child. Or use newspaper whack the floor and show an angry face hehe. (very hard with my daughter...i see her face wanna smile LOL)

[autumnbronze]

skunk:

autumnbronze:

the father or stepfather caused the death of a 2 yr old girl due to his disciplinary measures.

i think shouldn't use the word \"discipline\" with these cases....it's no longer about disciplining the child, but rather, abusing and venting frustration on the child :x

Children under 5 years old are easy to discipline, just scold harshly, or whack the floor with a roll of newspaper to let them know Daddy is angry, is more than enough to let them know they're doing something bad. Above 5, maybe a whack on the bum with the cane will let them know not to do it again.

Even my baby girl is receptive. When she plays with electric wires, i would yell at her and show an angry face, she would instantly stop and crawl away.

Those cases are obviously abuse and not discipline :x

You are rite, skunk. Thanks for the correction.

Type too fast, never stop to think choice of word

[tree nymph]

Funz:

Though I agree that excessive force has been used on the kid but I question the decision to jail the father. Especially if it is as alluded in the article that that was the only incident so far. Would a warning and counselling as well as parenting coaching be better? Jailing the father means the child is without a father figure for that period, the mother has to handle all matters by herself and the father will have a record which will affect his employability. If his employability is affected, he cannot support the family, which leads to stress and bad moods. And who will be the most likely punching bag? Viscious cycle.


Are we heading the way NZ is where a parent can be sued for even laying a finger on a child even if the child misbehaves.

I agree with you. what happens to the mum and kid for the three months when the father is away serving a jail sentence? won't a probation be better plus counselling and parent coaching be better?

[smurf]

they should think harder to come up with a solution and not simply just send the father to jail. doesn’t solve their problem.


dad send to jail, no income, mum and child eat what?

and if the law doesn’t punish the dad, what can be done to prevent the dad from doing that again? and there is no guarantee that after he is released from jail, he won’t do that again??

[autumnbronze]

smurf:

they should think harder to come up with a solution and not simply just send the father to jail. doesn't solve their problem.


dad send to jail, no income, mum and child eat what?

and if the law doesn't punish the dad, what can be done to prevent the dad from doing that again? and there is no guarantee that after he is released from jail, he won't do that again??

\"The 36-year-old former packer, who cannot be named, had earlier admitted to ill-treating the boy at his home on Feb 18 last year.\"

I cut and pasted this from the article. It seems to me that the man is unemployed.

Would it be possible that he was venting out frustration on the child?? If so, what is there to counsel abt. Its a simple case of right and wrong and he has done the wrong thing.

Spending time in jail is no easy feat. Yes, there's no guarantee that he will not do it again, but at least he is away from the child, the beer and will have time to reflect upon his actions.

Again, can only speculate.

I am playing Devil's Advocate here because my sympathies are with the child ....

[autumnbronze]

lovekidsverymuch:

autumnbronze:

I am playing Devil's Advocate here because my sympathies are with the child ....

I guess everyone sympathise with the child but jail term doesnt sound as the solution

Hi,

Just re-edited my piece to ans your question ....

[mintcc]

Actually, whether a jail term or conselling would be better for the family will depend on a lot of factors. Perhaps the judge have already consider the circumstances for the case.


Even if the father goes for conselling, there is also no garantee that he would not harm the child again.

[Andaiz]

mintcc:

Actually, whether a jail term or conselling would be better for the family will depend on a lot of factors. Perhaps the judge have already consider the circumstances for the case.


Even if the father goes for conselling, there is also no garantee that he would not harm the child again.

It's sad that such fathers exist...if you can't love a young life, and your offspring at that - why be a father??!?!