Any parents of gifted children here ?
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tamarind:
During his 3 years, I'm playing a supportive role. I'm just a driver who drove him around to places of interests. e.g. Zoo, Bird Park, Science Centre, Discovery Centre, Wild Wild wet, Theme Park, Museum, Sun Yat Sen, etc....
Doesn't he get bored learning the same thing over and over again ?kiasulang:
You can try some private preschools,perhaps they can accommodate. My son was in one of the preschool who allow him to stay in their K2 class for 3 years. They allow him to learn at his own pace, in fact, the school allow the children to learn at their own paces. He graduated 3 times and had to say goodbye to his best friends time after time. He was coping fine, made him emotionally strong and more sociable.
Don't you think that a special program that suits his intellectual capability will be better for him ? For example, if he is capable of learning fractions, why only learn addition/subtraction of whole numbers over and over again ?
He is not bored. In fact, he loves to go to school. He is able to explore freely. Every day is different for him. There is no repetitive work there. Children learn to play and play to learn. Children learn faster when they are able choose their area of interest to learn and be able to explore at their own pace. The school worked very closely with parents and have very good PT relationship. -
kiasulang:
Do you mean the school has a different K2 syllabus every year for 3 years consecutively? If so, that's indeed an interesting school. Is it possible to reveal the school name?
He is not bored. In fact, he loves to go to school. He is able to explore freely. Every day is different for him. There is no repetitive work there. Children learn to play and play to learn. Children learn faster when they are able choose their area of interest to learn and be able to explore at their own pace. The school worked very closely with parents and have very good PT relationship. -
kiasulang:
During his 3 years, I'm playing a supportive role. I'm just a driver who drove him around to places of interests. e.g. Zoo, Bird Park, Science Centre, Discovery Centre, Wild Wild wet, Theme Park, Museum, Sun Yat Sen, etc....
Doesn't he get bored learning the same thing over and over again ?tamarind:
[quote=\"kiasulang\"]
You can try some private preschools,perhaps they can accommodate. My son was in one of the preschool who allow him to stay in their K2 class for 3 years. They allow him to learn at his own pace, in fact, the school allow the children to learn at their own paces. He graduated 3 times and had to say goodbye to his best friends time after time. He was coping fine, made him emotionally strong and more sociable.
Don't you think that a special program that suits his intellectual capability will be better for him ? For example, if he is capable of learning fractions, why only learn addition/subtraction of whole numbers over and over again ?
He is not bored. In fact, he loves to go to school. He is able to explore freely. Every day is different for him. There is no repetitive work there. Children learn to play and play to learn. Children learn faster when they are able choose their area of interest to learn and be able to explore at their own pace. The school worked very closely with parents and have very good PT relationship.[/quote]I guess you found the right preschool for your son. Care to share which school is it ? Or just the area where it is located ? -
chamonix:
I believe it's possible. The kid must be emotionally and socially ready at that time. To my knowledge, the GEB will discourage and advise the parents otherwise.
Hi Kiasulang,
I heard of one case whereby a P2 kid was accelerated directly to P4 GEP. However, I'm not clear on the actual events leading to this acceleration.
The question is the kid is ready now. What are about ten years later? Is he/she able to cope with the emotion and social thingy then? -
Hi Tamarind and Charmonix
Most international/private schools have their own unique preschool syllabus. My son was recommended to the school after he had his assessment. -
kiasulang:
kiasulang,
Most international/private schools have their own unique preschool syllabus. My son was recommended to the school after he had his assessment.
I thought in Singapore all pre-schools are private. PCF kindergartens are not operated by the government, they are operated by the PAP Community Foundation. It is difficult to find a suitable pre-school like the one your son is attending.
As for whether the child is emotionally ready to join a class of older children, I think that the adults may be worrying too much. My girl joined a class of mostly 5 year old kids when she was 3 years 8 months old for her phonics enrichment course. She enjoyed going to that class. In fact, she liked her phonics class better than her Berries class where all the kids are the same age. She is now attending an arts class where other kids are 6 - 10 years old and she is the youngest one there. I observed that she is quite comfortable in the class.
However, I think that there is not much point in skipping levels. For example, a child may finish his O-levels at 12 years old, and even if he can graduate from university at 13 years old, it is unlikely that he can find a job as a doctor or lawyer at that age.
I share the same views as you that it is best for the child to enjoy his/her years growing up. -
tamarind:
For 'private', I mean schools that operate singly, or a handful branches. They are more willingly to cater to your child's needs.
kiasulang,kiasulang:
Most international/private schools have their own unique preschool syllabus. My son was recommended to the school after he had his assessment.
I thought in Singapore all pre-schools are private. PCF kindergartens are not operated by the government, they are operated by the PAP Community Foundation. It is difficult to find a suitable pre-school like the one your son is attending.
As for whether the child is emotionally ready to join a class of older children, I think that the adults may be worrying too much. My girl joined a class of mostly 5 year old kids when she was 3 years 8 months old for her phonics enrichment course. She enjoyed going to that class. In fact, she liked her phonics class better than her Berries class where all the kids are the same age. She is now attending an arts class where other kids are 6 - 10 years old and she is the youngest one there. I observed that she is quite comfortable in the class.
However, I think that there is not much point in skipping levels. For example, a child may finish his O-levels at 12 years old, and even if he can graduate from university at 13 years old, it is unlikely that he can find a job as a doctor or lawyer at that age.
I share the same views as you that it is best for the child to enjoy his/her years growing up.
It may seem ok for now when they are children. For adolescents, it is challenging. For a child with a IQ level of 150 at age 4 has a mental age of 6. For a adolescent with the same IQ of 150 at age 12 has a mental age of 18. Is she ready emotionally and socially? -
[quote] As for whether the child is emotionally ready to join a class of older children, I think that the adults may be worrying too much.
However, I think that there is not much point in skipping levels. For example, a child may finish his O-levels at 12 years old, and even if he can graduate from university at 13 years old, it is unlikely that he can find a job as a doctor or lawyer at that age.[/quote]i feel this is a very linear, achievement-oriented thinking and totally miss the heart of the issue. These children learn for the sake of learning. They want to understand for the sake of understanding. It's not about graduating early and finding employment early. It's certainly not about O levels and certificates.
Adolescence is a tricky age and the needs of the child is very individual at this point. Much wisdom is called for. But kiasulang, going by what you've done for your child so far, I'm sure your child will be just fine.
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deminc:
i feel this is a very linear, achievement-oriented thinking and totally miss the heart of the issue. These children learn for the sake of learning. They want to understand for the sake of understanding. It's not about graduating early and finding employment early. It's certainly not about O levels and certificates. [/quote]Say if the child finishes U at a much earlier age, he can spend the remaining time undergoing more indepth studies such as at master or PHD level[quote] As for whether the child is emotionally ready to join a class of older children, I think that the adults may be worrying too much.
However, I think that there is not much point in skipping levels. For example, a child may finish his O-levels at 12 years old, and even if he can graduate from university at 13 years old, it is unlikely that he can find a job as a doctor or lawyer at that age.
or he can explore new area of interests, assuming he is not already doing that concurrently
And ideally can get a scholarship so not so financially draining for parents
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chamonix:
Did you send yours for assessment?[Quoting from the article -
\"Gifted, top boy, scholar, overseas-educated - all these labels quickly fly out of the window as the playing field is levelled. The quality of work one produces speaks for itself.
So whether or not my children will be gifted does not matter as much to me now. I just want them to discover their own gifts in their own time, and on their own terms - hopefully, by standards other than just correctly checking off a few boxes in a test.\"
Hi Sleepy,
Whether a gifted test is required at preschooler age, it depends solely on the parents. Other than giving the parents an idea and better understanding about their kids, it's just a number that shows where the child stands in relation to kids of his/her age. Well, unless the parents can justify to MOE that their kids warrant special arrangements. Of course, it would also come in handy if the parents prefer their kids to be accelerated at preschool level. But I'm not sure about the gain though. Ultimately, the kid still starts on the same footing with his/her cohort when he/she starts formal education in primary school.
To understand what Gifted Tests and the results mean, it might be of interest for you to read this http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/tests.htm and http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/tests_tell_us.htm.
My intention, if I do send my girl for assessment, is to find out her strengths & develop her in that area, in case there are areas I missed out.
For instance, we dropped her music lessons some years ago because she didn't like to practice. But if the report reveal info such as she may be gifted in music, then I shall try to revive her interest in learning some instruments. Right now, we neither encourage or discourage her to learn music again
Does the assessment report reveal such kind of info?
I read the link, pai seh, don't quite understand :?
Fluid Reasoning (FR)
Knowledge (KN)
Quantitative Reasoning (QR)
Visual Spatial (VS)
Working Memory (WM)
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