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    2014 P1 Registration Exercise for 2015 In-Take

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Primary Schools - Selection & Registration
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    • P Offline
      pirate
      last edited by

      ChiefKiasu:
      jennylim80:

      ... I see a trend of not so well educated young parents who get trapped in this beliefs whuch causes such a phenomenon in Singapore. If you noticed Top executives, top professionals., Doctors etc. do not fret like the average employees about their children's primary schools.

      I am worried for these generation.

      This generalisation not only puts down \"not so well educated young parents\", but also unduly accord \"top executives, top professionals, doctors\" with sage-like characteristics. Perhaps those \"very well-educated professionals\" have secured places in those super-popular schools in earlier phases, which explains the phenomenon you observed.

      It takes a parent to understand what parents go through. We should give credit to all Singaporean parents for caring so much for each and every one of their children.

      Well, I know more than a few \"very well-educated professionals\". Many live in the Central or Bukit Timah Area. However, I have yet to come across a single one whose first choice for his/her child is Bukit Timah or Stamford Primary School. I wonder why. :scratchhead:

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      • jeffreyJ Offline
        jeffrey
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        Sharing some information from crunching the numbers …


        Description\t Places\tRemarks
        Total Available\t 42,460 \t
        Taken Till P2B\t 22,140 \t
        P2C Available \t 20,320 \t
        P2C Applicants\t 16,161 \tEnd of Day #3
        Total P2C Taken (Final) 13,927 \tAfter Balloting
        Total P2C Rejected\t 2,234 \t
        P2CS Available\t 6,393 \t
        \t\t
        Estimates\t\t
        Total Till P2C\t 36,067 \t
        Total P2CS \t 2,234 \t
        Places Taken Till P2CS\t 38,301 \t
        Total 2008 SC Babies\t 39,826 \tData from DOS (?)
        \t\t
        Hot Primary Schools\t# of Schools\t
        Oversubscribed \t 91 \t
        2X Oversubscribed\t 12 \t
        3X Oversubscribed\t 2 \t
        \t\t
        3X Oversubscribed\t\t
        Rulang Primary School\t\t
        Rosyth School\t\t
        \t\t
        2X Oversubscribed\t\t
        Red Swastika School\t\t
        Temasek Primary School\t\t
        Yu Neng Primary School\t\t
        Radin Mas Primary School\t\t
        Henry Park Primary School\t\t
        Nan Hua Primary School\t\t
        Rulang Primary School\t\t
        Pasir Ris Primary School\t\t
        Rosyth School\t\t
        Mee Toh School\t\t
        Nan Chiau Primary School\t
        Northland Primary School

        Please note that Rosyth School &\t Rulang Primary School is also reflected in the 2X oversubscribed category.

        Total Primary Schools\t 186
        Undersubscribed\t 95
        Oversubscribed\t 91

        * I made the necessary correction to reflect the correct information so that there is no confusion. Thanks for pointing out the errors.

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        • phtthpP Offline
          phtthp
          last edited by

          pirate:

          Well, I know more than a few \"very well-educated professionals\".
          Many live in the Central or Bukit Timah Area.

          However, I have yet to come across a single one whose first choice for his/her child is Bukit Timah or Stamford Primary School.
          I wonder why. :scratchhead:
          Bukit Timah primary (BTPS) is a second choice school, to many parents living in Bukit Timah / Central area.

          They go to BTPS only in p2C Supplementary : if they failed to ballot into their first choice schools (Nanyang, MGS, SCGS, Rgps, Pei Hwa, Henry Park, ACS Barker / Junior) at Phase 2C because by end of 2C, all these schools are 100 % full house.

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          • K Offline
            ksauntie
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            appreciate if someone could advise how 2Cs works? is it also priority for SC and by distance? getting a bit nervous as we are the unfortunate one that need balloting for 2C. Thanks in advance.

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            • phtthpP Offline
              phtthp
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              Poptart:
              FQW:

              Would it make the whole P1 reg process less stressful if there's a rule to state that if someone reg at an earlier phase (e.g. P2B), once that phase has passed, he can't go back to de-register to apply to a later phase when opportunity arises.


              Just throwing up some suggestions. Please don't wallop me hur (I'm not one of the four).

              I think this is a suggestion worth taking note.

              In my humble view,phase 2A1/2 are already in a privileged position.
              \"Chope-ing\" a place in in 2A phase and still hoping to get a better deal at later phases will really put parents in phase 2C in a further disadvantageous situation.

              a lot of parents will object & protest, if you forbid them to withdraw.
              because who are the people who withdraw / come out of Phase 1 (sibling) or Phase 2A, to register under 2B schools ?

              will be many parents, that have connection to the schools :-
              - Parent Volunteers tied to their respective primary schools,

              - Grass Root leaders from the various HDB Residential Committee / Private Condominium Neighbourhood Committee, doing community service work for their GRC, at hospitals, or perform duties during festive seasons (eg: distribute moon cakes to the old folks, or follow their MP on entourage to Yu Hua Yuan in Jurong, during Mid Autumn festival) etc.

              - plus several volunteers offering their time in Hokkien Clan association, Teochew Clan association, Buddhist temples at Guang Ming Shan (Bright Hill road) + other related temple affliated to Buddhist schools, plus those members from Catholic churches / Methodist / Presbyterian / Anglican churches affliated to respective primary schools.

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                Poptart
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                [quote="FQW"]Would it make the whole P1 reg process less stressful if there’s a rule to state that if someone reg at an earlier phase (e.g. P2B), once that phase has passed, he can’t go back to de-register to apply to a later phase when opportunity arises.


                Just throwing up some suggestions. Please don’t wallop me hur (I’m not one of the four).


                I think this is a suggestion worth taking note.

                In my humble view,phase 2A1/2 are already in a privileged position.
                "Chope-ing" a place in in 2A phase and still hoping to get a better deal at later phases will really put parents in phase 2C in a further disadvantageous situation.


                a lot of parents will object & protest, if you forbid them to withdraw.
                because who are the people who withdraw / come out of Phase 1 (sibling) or Phase 2A, to register under 2B schools ?

                will be many parents, that have connection to the schools :-
                - Parent Volunteers tied to their respective primary schools,

                - Grass Root leaders from the various HDB Residential Committee / Private Condominium Neighbourhood Committee, doing community service work for their GRC, at hospitals, etc.

                - plus several volunteers offering their time in Hokkien Clan association, Teochew Clan association, Buddhist temples at Guang Ming Shan (Bright Hill road) + other related temple affliated to Buddhist schools, plus those members from Catholic churches / Methodist / Presbyterian / Anglican churches affliated to respective primary schools.[/quote]


                Would it not make these parents consider their choice more carefully before registering?
                Still there is no foolproof system that will please all parents . But it can certainly be more equitable

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                • phtthpP Offline
                  phtthp
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                  for Phase 2C -

                  for parents outside 1 km from Popular schools : is very scary, in that last hour (3.30 pm to 4.30 pm)

                  after 3 pm, tension very high !
                  you see a lot of parents standing outside Registration hall, camping around the white board, taking photo shoot of the latest number of registrants reported, using their mobile hand phone.

                  every 10 to 15 minutes or so -
                  the P1 Officer on duty will appear and update the white board with the latest report: indicating how many SC / PR registered within 1 km, between 1 to 2 km and outside 2 km.

                  for parents outside 2 km -
                  each time an extra registrant within 1 km or between 1 to 2 km, turn up to register, your heart beat very fast.
                  you get anxious, because the number of vacancies available for balloting … keep dropping and dropping, getting smaller and smaller.

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                  • P Offline
                    pinkblue
                    last edited by

                    Would it make the whole P1 reg process less stressful if there’s a rule to state that if someone reg at an earlier phase (e.g. P2B), once that phase has passed, he can’t go back to de-register to apply to a later phase when opportunity arises.


                    Just throwing up some suggestions. Please don’t wallop me hur (I’m not one of the four).



                    I think this is a suggestion worth taking note.

                    In my humble view,phase 2A1/2 are already in a privileged position.
                    "Chope-ing" a place in in 2A phase and still hoping to get a better deal at later phases will really put parents in phase 2C in a further disadvantageous situation.




                    I guess sometimes these parents in 2A etc got not much of choices.

                    If they live near very popular schools, their chances of snagging a place in 2C will be pretty low. At least in 2A , chances will be so much higher but might incur long travelling time.

                    So when comes to 2C , if chances of getting into a popular school within 1 km is high, I am sure parents will go for it due to less travelling time.

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                    • janet88J Offline
                      janet88
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                      Poptart:
                      FQW:

                      Would it make the whole P1 reg process less stressful if there's a rule to state that if someone reg at an earlier phase (e.g. P2B), once that phase has passed, he can't go back to de-register to apply to a later phase when opportunity arises.

                      I feel the same...once the parent has registered the child in phase 1/2A/2B, they should not be allowed to de-register after that.

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                        sushi88
                        last edited by

                        janet_lee88:
                        Poptart:

                        [quote=\"FQW\"]Would it make the whole P1 reg process less stressful if there's a rule to state that if someone reg at an earlier phase (e.g. P2B), once that phase has passed, he can't go back to de-register to apply to a later phase when opportunity arises.

                        I feel the same...once the parent has registered the child in phase 1/2A/2B, they should not be allowed to de-register after that.[/quote]I agree to this idea by FQW.
                        Just like in DSA, once a student accepts the CO from a school, they cannot change so that there would be less uncertainties for others. The same principle applies.

                        People always talk about leveling the playing field for P1 registration, this is definitely one way because some have a few means(like bao-jiat durians) to get into different popular schools and some only have one way. By doing this, it is indirectly limiting everyone to just one way, would that not be more equal in terms of opportunity? 🤷

                        Based on current rules, I have to agree that the 4 parents were just playing by the rules and were valid in their actions and perhaps with valid reasons too.

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