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    How much is enough for retirement in Singapore?

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    • S Offline
      skunk
      last edited by

      seriously, $1M is not enough and $1 might be too much.


      I know of a semi-retired businessman. He slipped on the wet floor at his condo pool, fell and hit his head on a metal bench and became comatose. While he was in a coma, he suffered a stroke. Despite having insurance, his family had to sell their condo and use up all their savings to treat him. Total expenses almost $1M AFTER INSURANCE. Guess what, he died 6 months after discharge.

      My own grandmother is still around, 93 years old this year. She retired without a single cent in her pocket almost 40 years ago. (in the old days, people retire young lol) Now she’s still around, hobbling around on her walking stick and scolding everyone. She really doesn’t need money, all her 9 children, each contribute $50 monthly, enough for all her needs. She’s healthy and doesn’t require any medication, except calcium supplements.

      All the "you need at least $1M to retire" is all part of a grand plan by "financial advisors" to make u feel worried all the time, and park your money with them, so u will be "secured" in old age. Pui. The financial institutions can’t even secure their own future, want to secure yours/ours?

      And "retirement" is really a 21st Century urban myth. In the old days, after people stopped their jobs, they were "employed" by their children to care for grandchildren, cook and what not. That was what kept my grandma healthy and fit, lots of manual labour, even into her 80s.

      Everytime i see those overweight and lazy 60 year olds talking about retirement, i see a couple of pigs oinking away. The sooner society gets rid of the concept of "retirement", the better it is for everyone. Nobody will be in a rush to save up, people won’t make risky investment decisions, people stop having so many frowns and furrows on their faces, society slows down and is happier.

      For myself, the day i "retire" is the day i step into my coffin. At current life expectancy of 80+ years, to totally stop work and laze around for 15 years, is a crazy idea born out by lazy pigs.

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        Way2GO
        last edited by

        It’s a moving target.

        At the rate Singapore is going,
        after u are ‘allowed to retire’ at 65,
        we will all end up washing toilets, cleaning tables
        n serving at MacDonalds for pocket money.

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          LOLMum
          last edited by

          well, hubby and i have had our fair share of partying, travelling and treats. we are at this stage of our lives whereby we are looking at a more relaxing and simple lifestyle.


          i hope to have at least $2m. but of course the more money the better it is :rubhands:

          the $2m should exclude money set aside for kids' education. house should be fully paid and no loans when he retires.

          the money is for medical needs rather than for big luxury items.


          😉

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          • P Offline
            Petlover
            last edited by

            Assuming that you’re spending roughly the same as you’re working. You’ll need at least 20 to 30 times your yearly salary for your retirement. Why ?

            The reason is that you can use that amount of asset to generate a 4-5% yearly cashflow which is roughly equal to your salary.

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              jedamum
              last edited by

              KSP:
              How much saving do you think is enough for a good retirement in Singapore?

              i cannot predict the future, but for a start, i think this should serve as rough guide....
              https://www.cpf.gov.sg/cpf_trans/ssl/financial_model/retirement/input1.asp

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                tankee
                last edited by

                Petlover:
                Assuming that you're spending roughly the same as you're working. You'll need at least 20 to 30 times your yearly salary for your retirement. Why ?

                The reason is that you can use that amount of asset to generate a 4-5% yearly cashflow which is roughly equal to your salary.
                did you consider inflation?

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                • K Offline
                  kiasuproductscout
                  last edited by

                  1 Mil? hopefully with some recurring income and working part time?

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                    Petlover
                    last edited by

                    tankee:
                    Petlover:

                    Assuming that you're spending roughly the same as you're working. You'll need at least 20 to 30 times your yearly salary for your retirement. Why ?

                    The reason is that you can use that amount of asset to generate a 4-5% yearly cashflow which is roughly equal to your salary.

                    did you consider inflation?

                    You can choose certain types of asset in your portfolio which can catch up with the inflation, like real estate...

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                      KSP
                      last edited by

                      Well, looking at the situation in Singapore now. A lot of people don’t even have 500k when they reached 55. Considering they have fully paid up their apartment.

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                        2ppaamm
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                        KSP:
                        Well, looking at the situation in Singapore now. A lot of people don't even have 500k when they reached 55. Considering they have fully paid up their apartment.

                        Then they can now downgrade from their apartment or mortgage that and convert that into cash, right?

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